Glue traps - your thoughts?

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
These are the best mouse traps

Squeeze to set, add peanut butter, kill mouse, squeeze to release mouse (into garbage) and reset.

They actually are quite decent and not sure if it was a one time thing or if it's how they're made, but they don't seem to be a danger to other non nuisance rodents such as chipmunks and squirrels. We had some in the camper under the driver seat and other areas we did not really go in and it was basically set and forget. There was not really a big mouse problem but once and a while there might of been mice in the camper.

One day we were playing with the chipmunks and squirrels and just for fun let a chipmunk in the camper just to see what he'd do (we totally forgot about the mouse traps) the chipmunk darted straight for the seat then I'm like "oh no the mouse traps!" but before I could react I heard SNAP SNAP (both traps) then the chipmunk ran out unharmed. A normal snap trap would of probably harmed the poor thing.

Oh the fun of camping, miss those days. I also remember rescuing a family of mice from a huge hole lol. Literally, a family. The mother, daddy and like 5 kids. They were so cute.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Oh and to those condoning the insane cruelty and torturing of rodents or any animal, you are not any different then someone like hitler. You both enjoy seeing many living beings suffering at your hands. People like that are very twisted and psychotic and should be removed from society.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Oh and to those condoning the insane cruelty and torturing of rodents or any animal, you are not any different then someone like hitler. You both enjoy seeing many living beings suffering at your hands. People like that are very twisted and psychotic and should be removed from society.

LoL, I'll say it, you are a fucking whacko. Placing a mouse on a gluetrap in the garbage is NOT at all like slaughtering millions of innocent humans.

Also, nobody in this thread (other then jokes) said that they enjoy seeing animals suffer. Fucking nut.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
These are the best mouse traps

Squeeze to set, add peanut butter, kill mouse, squeeze to release mouse (into garbage) and reset.

hows the clamping force compared to a snap?
i just know the metal one swings through 180degrees so its gotta be moving fast....

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
This thread isn't an indication at all. Someone like you is more likely to post their opinion in a thread like this because your opinion is stronger. Truth is that most people probably don't give a shit about a mouse. You calling everyone morally wrong is what's fucked up.

There is no indication that the "majority" of society says it's ok either. Like that matters anyway, many people in society are misguided and ignorant. This really has little to do with giving a shit, rather looking at something morally questionable. If someone doesn't give a shit, then that's fine. But it's one thing being indifferent, another thing to act in a well, terrible manner.

I only called a couple of people morally fucked up, two people does not mean "everyone". They know who they are. But nice strawman.

How did I veer away from the topic when it was merely part of my response? Compassion for a mouse is silly. I was merely stating that if you are so concerned about things, get off your ass and do something about it. Bitching on the internet doesn't solve things.

You did, because you failed to address the actual points made (eg. why be overly cruel when you can be merciful, what is the point of being inhumane, etc).

Why is it silly? Just because someone might have compassion for a mouse doesn't mean they're incapable of showing it to humans. The mouse can feel pain, and if you make it suffer by your own hand and don't feel anything... then that is very callous. I would almost say inhuman.

And you're very quick to make the assumption that I haven't done something already.

And in my experience, pretty much anything that PETA backs is fucking whacko.

PETA's right about this one though, even though I hate them in general, and their method of protest. They're ruining genuine causes when they take them up, due to their reputation and extreme tactics. I'd prefer they best left this alone.

In addition, respectable animal welfare organisations such as the RSPCA condemn glue traps. In fact, the RSPCA in the UK are trying to get them banned.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Ok.... I bet eating red meat is bad for me too?

No.

But if a box tells you to throw a live mouse stuck on superglue into the bin... and you really think it's best to take it literally... then it's REALLY obvious isn't it?

I mean, if you saw a wounded dog and instructions to pour salt in its wounds, would you do as the instructions say? What I'm getting at here, is that some things should not be taken literally. Now, you KNOW that leaving it alive in the bin, it will suffer pretty badly, and for a long time. And that's immoral, no matter how you try and justify it.

So why do it? Why not just put it out of its misery and THEN throw it away?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Oh and to those condoning the insane cruelty and torturing of rodents or any animal, you are not any different then someone like hitler. You both enjoy seeing many living beings suffering at your hands. People like that are very twisted and psychotic and should be removed from society.

LoL, I'll say it, you are a fucking whacko. Placing a mouse on a gluetrap in the garbage is NOT at all like slaughtering millions of innocent humans.

Also, nobody in this thread (other then jokes) said that they enjoy seeing animals suffer. Fucking nut.

Stop being so selfish.

Animals are just different species, they still have life and still know and feel pain like we do.

I know that line gets old but how would you like to be duct taped to a wall or tied up where you can't move, then set on fire, or skinned alive, or whatever psychotic things people do to animals? Think of how painful and horrible it would be to die that way now animals will feel the same way when tortured by us.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: TallBill
Ok.... I bet eating red meat is bad for me too?

No.

But if a box tells you to throw a live mouse stuck on superglue into the bin... and you really think it's best to take it literally... then it's REALLY obvious isn't it?

I mean, if you saw a wounded dog and instructions to pour salt in its wounds, would you do as the instructions say? What I'm getting at here, is that some things should not be taken literally. Now, you KNOW that leaving it alive in the bin, it will suffer pretty badly, and for a long time. And that's immoral, no matter how you try and justify it.

So why do it? Why not just put it out of its misery and THEN throw it away?

Your example is asinine. What product would have instructions "pour salt on a wounded dog"? Regardless of what the box says though I'd just toss the mouse into the garbage bin while alive. Best of luck Mr. Mouse, shouldn't have been in my fucking house!

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Also, nobody in this thread (other then jokes) said that they enjoy seeing animals suffer. Fucking nut.

Is it any worse inflicting cruelty, then being indifferent about it?

To make something suffer is to make something suffer, regardless if it's for a laugh, or if you do it and don't care about it. You're still doing said action.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: TallBill
Also, nobody in this thread (other then jokes) said that they enjoy seeing animals suffer. Fucking nut.

Is it any worse inflicting cruelty, then being indifferent about it?

To make something suffer is to make something suffer, regardless if it's for a laugh, or if you do it and don't care about it. You're still doing said action.

No, its a mouse. We've already gone over this.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Your example is asinine. What product would have instructions "pour salt on a wounded dog"?

It's a simple analogy, whether it exists or not is irrelevant. It was just an example of mediated cruelty.

Regardless of what the box says though I'd just toss the mouse into the garbage bin while alive.

Why? It's needlessly cruel. It's wrong. And there really should be a law against it, because what you do is no better than torture.

Fuck, you're one disgusting jerk.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
No, its a mouse. We've already gone over this.

Yes we have, and it's already been established that mice feel pain and suffer, like any mammal would. So the insignificance of said animal does not change that fact, hence it is irrelevant.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: TallBill
Your example is asinine. What product would have instructions "pour salt on a wounded dog"?

It's a simple analogy, whether it exists or not is irrelevant. It was just an example of mediated cruelty.

Regardless of what the box says though I'd just toss the mouse into the garbage bin while alive.

Why? It's needlessly cruel. It's wrong. And there really should be a law against us, because what you do is no better than torture.

Fuck, you're one disgusting jerk.

Actually it's a crappy analogy because one thing exists and the other thing is completely made up and silly. And your reading comprehension blows because you've already read the post where I said that I have never used a glue trap. I know this to be a fact because you responded to it.

Oh noes, some internet teenager called me a disgusting jerk.

/wrists

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: TallBill
No, its a mouse. We've already gone over this.

Yes we have, and it's already been established that mice feel pain and suffer, like any mammal would. So the insignificance of said animal does not change that fact, hence it is irrelevant.

lol, k.. I have to get ready for work. Enjoy spending your Friday night on the internet.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Actually it's a crappy analogy because one thing exists and the other thing is completely made up and silly.

Analogies don't have to exist. Most of the time they use hypotheticals. And they both come under the same fucking principle (which is what matters here) - unnecessary cruelty done because of what a piece of paper tells you.

And your reading comprehension blows because you've already read the post where I said that I have never used a glue trap. I know this to be a fact because you responded to it.

You never said that, liar. You said that the dorm mice never bothered you, and that glue traps were used in Afghanistan in a building where you lived. You also admitted you'd throw a life mouse stuck on a glue trap into the rubbish. That and your complete lack of compassion says enough really.

Oh noes, some internet teenager called me a disgusting jerk.

I'm quite older than that. But thanks for caring.

 

[DayLaPaul]

Being inhumane isn't throwing a mouse attached to a glue trap away -- it's poking it's eyes out and throwing ice on it, followed by lighting up some hairspray. A little move I like to call the shock and awe.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
lol, k.. I have to get ready for work. Enjoy spending your Friday night on the internet.

You love to make unfounded assumptions, don't you? It's actually Saturday noon over here. Not everyone lives in the US, you realise?

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Being inhumane isn't throwing a mouse attached to a glue trap away -- it's poking it's eyes out and throwing ice on it, followed by lighting up some hairspray. A little move I like to call the shock and awe.

Eaten one too many mushrooms?

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: Xylitol
I'm not going to get my hands dirty by throwing a hammer on a mouse

Wow, honestly... what a shit excuse. Grow a pair.

Use some common sense - cover it with a plastic bag. Then smash it. You don't have to throw it, just hit it.

It's a lot better than just letting it suffer, and possibly escaping the trap. Think man!

Drowning works great and is pretty clean.. Glue trap + rat + bucket of water = moral superiority!

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: HenryC
blah, blah, blah, horseshit...

I find it humorous that you are so concerned by vermin suffering some type of abuse yet you have no problem heaping verbal abuse on your fellow man.
This tells me 3 things.
1. You are as dumb as fuck.
2. You are mentally a midget.
3. You have a tiny dick.

That is all. Now go back to your other user name and troll that account for a while. This one is getting old.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I find it humorous that you are so concerned by vermin suffering some type of abuse yet you have no problem heaping verbal abuse on your fellow man.
This tells me 3 things.
1. You are as dumb as fuck.
2. You are mentally a midget.
3. You have a tiny dick.

That is all. Now go back to your other user name and troll that account for a while. This one is getting old.

Something in great pain is always worse than calling someone an idiot (where they aren't even affected by it). Hardly call that person a "man" if he's too chickenshit to kill a mouse on a glue trap. Also, people who are cruel asswipes deserve verbal abuse.

But I like you.

You're an inspiration to all the dumb fucks who are mental midgets with small dicks, good for you.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I find it humorous that you are so concerned by vermin suffering some type of abuse yet you have no problem heaping verbal abuse on your fellow man.
This tells me 3 things.
1. You are as dumb as fuck.
2. You are mentally a midget.
3. You have a tiny dick.

That is all. Now go back to your other user name and troll that account for a while. This one is getting old.

Something in great pain is always worse than calling someone an idiot (where they aren't even affected by it). Hardly call that person a "man" if he's too chickenshit to kill a mouse on a glue trap. Also, people who are cruel asswipes deserve verbal abuse.

But I like you.

You're an inspiration to all the dumb fucks who are mental midgets with small dicks, good for you.

Glad you are impressed by me. Your mom was too. Till I caught her in a glue trap and stuck her in my basement.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Glad you are impressed by me. Your mom was too. Till I caught her in a glue trap and stuck her in my basement.

I don't see how a dead person could be impressed by you, or anything really.

Out of the closet necrophiliac perhaps? I'm sure her rotting corpse will be a fine addition to your basement.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Glad you are impressed by me. Your mom was too. Till I caught her in a glue trap and stuck her in my basement.

I don't see how a dead person could be impressed by you, or anything really.

Out of the closet necrophiliac perhaps? I'm sure her rotting corpse will be a fine addition to your basement.

She's not the first. Anyone seen RossMan in person lately?

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's a fucking mouse... you wanted it gone... it's gone... get over it.

This.