GK106 die shot, once again with new specs

[Elfear]

The 7970 ghz is just an OC'd version of a 7970. Do you think that speaks highly of AMD's business integrity to release a graphics card and re-release it after a competitors version that is better?

Do you realize NVIDIA can do the same thing? Where do you draw the line and look at it from a realistic perspective of NVIDIA releasing quality products from the start and sticking with their products?

Sorry but I am failing to see the issue here. If after releasing new cards we can now get better performance for less money, why as a consumer would you complain? Even if you only go with Nvidia cards, more fierce competition has caused 670 prices to drop so again you win. I have no idea why you're relating AMD's reaction to Kepler with poor quality or lack of integrity.

Honestly it sounds like you bought a 670/680 when first released and now you're angry that the AMD cards are more competitive now.

As a consumer, how can you only look at remade products and overclocked products to decide between two graphics cards. This is quite frankly stupid and shows exactly why AMD has the 'stereotype', if you will, of being CHEAP.

"Remade" products? So should we ignore all the refreshes that come down the pipeline? Was the GTX 580 "cheap" and unworthy of consideration because it was a remade product?

Let me give you the perspective that most consumers have when shopping for a video card. 1) Look at reviews and see how the competition stacks up, 2) look at vendors and see how much the competing cards are going for, and 3) choose the card that gives you the most bang-for-your-buck with an acceptable level of performance. A factory-overclocked card is generally considered a good thing.

If factory-overclocked cards are available for close to the same price as reference, why would you be angry about that? Generally factory oced cards have HIGHER quality components, not lower as you imply.

If NVIDIA released the 670/680 'B' to pull ahead in benchmarks (just a mild overclock), would that influence you to go back to NVIDIA?

Absolutely! If I was in the market for a new card at the time and Nvidia offered a cheaper card that performed better than AMD's offering there's no question it would influence me. Releasing a faster card for the same or less money is a win no matter how you look at it.

Lets look at it from another perspective, if BMW released a direct competitor to an AUDI A5 and it had a lot more horsepower and AUDI countered this by releasing the A5 B which only had higher horsepower at the cost of higher mpg, what do you think would be the result? People would be outraged and AUDI could just say, well, you can just have a tune up or slight modification and the car will be the same as the B! This is exactly what AMD is doing and is simply stupid.

Uh happy people? A mid-cycle refresh that adds more performance seems like a smart move to me. Why let the competition beat you for a whole year when you can quickly release an upgraded model for the same money?

Lastly, why don't the companies just keep releasing overclocked cards one after another ?

What do you think most refreshes are?

 

[Lonyo]

that makes me laugh Nvidia tricksters


it's same if you say .... why i can't get same performance on 7970 stock like 7970 GHZ edition lol

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/499?vs=313
Only if the HD7970 is somehow around 60% the speed of the HD7970 GHz edition.
Because that's the sort of performance difference there can be between a 560SE and a 560 448
(460 used for comparison because that's all which is in Bench, and should be roughly equivalent, if not a little faster).

 

[Haserath]

If your IQ is higher than 7, you should know there is a difference between the 560's...

Where it gets a bit harder is when they do something like GT 640, GT 640, or, you guessed it, GT 640.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-640-oem/specifications

 

[hyrule4927]

If your IQ is higher than 7, you should know there is a difference between the 560's...

Where it gets a bit harder is when they do something like GT 640, GT 640, or, you guessed it, GT 640.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-640-oem/specifications

Well, with a GT640, it is going to be awful no matter which version you get! ()