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I would just like to be at least semi professional about my job since they will be down in the past work history. I feel like I have more dignity then to just say piss off I quit, even though my reasons for quiting are motivated by the fact they have treated me like shit these last couple of months. I just don't want a bad reference for jobs in the future, though they will be about the same standard since I am in school and just trying to pay tuition and bills.
No one is going to call up a friggin grocery store looking for a reference. Unless, perhaps, you're planning on making a career out of working at a grocery store.
SmoochyTX
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- Apr 19, 2003
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It would not be very professional of me to give you that. Let's just say that no job is too small -- especially when you're young and starting out. You might be surprised how many people get turned down for a job due to "inaccuracies".
Using your stream of logic, what's the big deal about the OP providing reference info concerning the grocery store? I wonder what else he would be leaving out.
Just think about it from the other point of view.
Whoozyerdaddy
Lifer
- Jun 27, 2005
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WTH are you talking about it not being very professional to name some jobs. You said there were a lot, so name some. I can't think of any outside of working for the governement/cia/fbi/military contract co. If you don't know, just man up and admit it you were blowing smoke out of your ass.
I never said he should not provide a reference concerning said grocery store, or lie about the circumstances. I said that no one is going to give a shit. He's working at a grocery store. He already has a better paying job lined up. 10 years from now, when he's actually working in a professional field, who the frack is going to care about a reference from XXX grocery store, because it's oh so relevant to his current line of work.
As for the OP's original question, it's already been answered numerous times that there's no need to submit his resignation in writing.
SmoochyTX
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- Apr 19, 2003
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You clearly have no idea how background checks are done in this current day and age. It involves more than just providing a "reference". BTW, you'd be surprised how many of those "references" are false.
When it comes to the OP, 10 years from now is one thing. The OP is dealing in the present however. Why you feel it isn't important for him to provide written notice is beyond me -- even though it is a grocery store.
If the terms of his employment required him to provide written notice, then he should it. If he works at a grocery store, chances are it is not.
Stop avoiding the question. I say again, WTH are you talking about it not being very professional to name some jobs. You said there were a lot, so name some. I can't think of any outside of working for the governement/cia/fbi/military contract co. If you don't know, just man up and admit it you were blowing smoke out of your ass.
TwiceOver
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- Dec 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: akshatp - Nested Quotes Removed
Who gives a fuck? A small paragraph would save the OP hastle in the future *IF* an employer does decide to check.
And for fuck's sake I'll name a few... His next job, his job after that, potentially his job after that, landlords, loan officers...
Trust me, managers and such remember people that submit in writing rather than just walking in "Hey, this is my two weeks notice, I'll be done on mm/dd/yy." It's not very professional in any job. No matter how much they are blood sucking bastards, tell them you enjoyed it and that you would take it again in the future if the cards fell that way.
Also, OP, always leave on the best terms possible. You never know when you will be back. I worked a run of the mill factory job. Moved away. 8 years later I came back and there was an IS support job open at that factory. Walked in, said hi to everyone that was still there, employed within 24hrs.
Who gives a fuck? A small paragraph would save the OP hastle in the future *IF* an employer does decide to check.
And for fuck's sake I'll name a few... His next job, his job after that, potentially his job after that, landlords, loan officers...
Trust me, managers and such remember people that submit in writing rather than just walking in "Hey, this is my two weeks notice, I'll be done on mm/dd/yy." It's not very professional in any job. No matter how much they are blood sucking bastards, tell them you enjoyed it and that you would take it again in the future if the cards fell that way.
Also, OP, always leave on the best terms possible. You never know when you will be back. I worked a run of the mill factory job. Moved away. 8 years later I came back and there was an IS support job open at that factory. Walked in, said hi to everyone that was still there, employed within 24hrs.
Smoochy bs's in a lot of posts and got called out in this one. That's why the question was asked, which you would have known if you had bothered to read the preceding posts.
OP already has a new job lined up. Obviously his new employer was concerned about whether he submitted his resignation in writing.
/sarcasm
"Trust me", very few give a flying fuck whether a kid submitted his resignation in writing or not, as long as he adheres to whatever policy he agreed to when hired. For the umpteenth time, if the terms of employment required it be in writing, then he should resign in writing. If not, verbal resignation is okay. If he up and quits, that's a different story, as he has already stated this is the first job that required him to give 2 weeks notice.
Also, it would be pretty fucking pathetic if the OP ends up working at the same grocery store sometime down the line.
UberNeuman
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Get on their forklift, drive it into the store, knock down a few displays, some shoppers, lift the forks and ram them into the dairy cooler - jump off and announce that this is your two week notice....
Then get on the PA and tell all the shoppers that everything in the store is half off for one hour only...
/you'll be a hero!
Then get on the PA and tell all the shoppers that everything in the store is half off for one hour only...
/you'll be a hero!
I remember when I was working at McDonalds, an employee wanted to quit because he had to drop out of school and get a full time job elsewhere. The manager wanted the letter of resignation 3 weeks before he could leave. Well, the next day, the employee came up to the manager with a sheet of wide-rule paper with his "To XXXXX: I am quitting. Thank ya for the job, XXXX."
SmoochyTX
Lifer
- Apr 19, 2003
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WTF are you talking about? Do you really need me to outline for you every single job listing I deal with on a daily basis? If so, there isn't enough space in this little box for it. Suffice it to say that if you're filling out an application and there are spaces for you to fill in concerning your previous employment history, you should fill them out.
Working at McDonald's, a gas station, or the local grocery store doesn't mean you get to skip that part of your job history. It's actually a very important part of job history (especially if you're just starting out) as it shows what kind of worker you are and could be.
Just because you believe the OP's job to be menial does not mean that everybody else feels the same way. And just because it's what you consider to be a menial job does not mean that an employee should just dump on the employer that provided him/her sustenance for that time period. Ever hear about burning bridges?
What kind of harm will a two or three sentence written notice (or typed) do? You could either look like a respectful human being or look like a piece of shit. Which do you think is better? But of course, the OP is smart enough to ask such a question. It's just the fuckwads like yourself that like to stir shit up.
alkemyst
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- Feb 13, 2001
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1) two weeks is a courtesy, never mandatory.
2) a resignation letter is not needed for many jobs below anyone in a management or critical position. In a resignation letter you are more or less there to discuss why and when you are leaving, whether you'd be available to the company for questions and if there are any pending issues you may seek to sue over. In many positions a resignation letter is more or less required otherwise they will ask you to sign off at the exit interview (which in these kinds of jobs is usually required or you will lose certain benefits).
There have been come higher end jobs I just walked out on and never answered the phone about. I had nothing to say to them and if they didn't realize why I needed to leave their company then there was nothing I could say. One was a case of working for a family company. It was a medium sized business and I was in college. My hours were 4 a day starting when I got out of class. My last class one day a week was a lab which could be from 1 to 3 hours. Usually it was only 1 hour I needed.
On my later lab days esp towards the end of the term, my boss/the owner would wait in my chair for me to get there and ask why it took me X amount more time today than last. I would always tell him the same thing...lab, I told you this when you hired me. I code so my four hours shouldn't matter when they are done. He'd always have something to say about I was probably screwing around or something.
The last straw came when he pulled my modem saying I shouldn't need to look up code online AT ALL, but if I needed something just ask his son for it and he would look it up for me
.
I just left. The next day I was told he waited at my desk for 4 hours for me.
2) a resignation letter is not needed for many jobs below anyone in a management or critical position. In a resignation letter you are more or less there to discuss why and when you are leaving, whether you'd be available to the company for questions and if there are any pending issues you may seek to sue over. In many positions a resignation letter is more or less required otherwise they will ask you to sign off at the exit interview (which in these kinds of jobs is usually required or you will lose certain benefits).
There have been come higher end jobs I just walked out on and never answered the phone about. I had nothing to say to them and if they didn't realize why I needed to leave their company then there was nothing I could say. One was a case of working for a family company. It was a medium sized business and I was in college. My hours were 4 a day starting when I got out of class. My last class one day a week was a lab which could be from 1 to 3 hours. Usually it was only 1 hour I needed.
On my later lab days esp towards the end of the term, my boss/the owner would wait in my chair for me to get there and ask why it took me X amount more time today than last. I would always tell him the same thing...lab, I told you this when you hired me. I code so my four hours shouldn't matter when they are done. He'd always have something to say about I was probably screwing around or something.
The last straw came when he pulled my modem saying I shouldn't need to look up code online AT ALL, but if I needed something just ask his son for it and he would look it up for me
.I just left. The next day I was told he waited at my desk for 4 hours for me.
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