Give me some arguments why homosexuality is wrong and should be declared illegal.

[s0me0nesmind1]

Marriage isnt exclusive to Christianity. That religion doesn't get to determine what marriage is just because its fairly prominent in this country. Marriage can be done completely through the state.

Who said ANYTHING about Christianity? How about society? How about history?

How about Part A doesn't go with Part A? How about babies can't be made from there? The list goes on and on and on and on and on....

 

[master_shake_]

it's not

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[rudder]

Maybe you should go pose this question to a Russian, Iranian, Saudi Arabian, or Any number of African and middle eastern countries forums.

I know some people have issues with gay marriage but I don't think there is much of an effort to criminalize homosexuality.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Dumb topic, none the less science says same sex people can't reproduce, prove science wrong and then marry away.

AWWW! Only your dumb logic here, just how do you think infertile X+Y couples reproduce?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Who said ANYTHING about Christianity? How about society? How about history?

How about Part A doesn't go with Part A? How about babies can't be made from there? The list goes on and on and on and on and on....

The round peg don't go in the round hole? Maybe you should read up on kinky sex and fisting.

 

[brycejones]

This.

Go fuck some dudes. Go commit sin. Go do whatever it is on your plate. But ruining the definition of marriage is where the line in the sand is being drawn at the moment. In all honesty, I really don't give a shit outside of that.

Why do you care? Is your marriage threatened?

 

[Abwx]

Being gay must not be illegal but marriage yes because this amount to ask rights based on one s sexuality, at this point one can ask to marry with his dog or cat, hey, why not, zoophilia existed perhaps even before homosexuality...

 

[vampirefo]

AWWW! Only your dumb logic here, just how do you think infertile X+Y couples reproduce?

Let's see with a man and woman, wow I say wow that was easy.

 

[brycejones]

Who said ANYTHING about Christianity? How about society? How about history?

How about Part A doesn't go with Part A? How about babies can't be made from there? The list goes on and on and on and on and on....

So only people who can have babies should be allowed to get married?

Since the list goes on and on in your mind please provide the full and complete list so we know what logical fallacies you've bought into.

 

[brycejones]

Being gay must not be illegal but marriage yes because this amount to ask rights based on one s sexuality, at this point one can ask to marry with his dog or cat, hey, why not, zoophilia existed perhaps even before homosexuality...

Not this shit again. Are you lusting after nehalm's toaster to?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It goes against nature to have men attracted to men and women attracted to women. There is no scientific basis behind it. In fact, billions of years of evolution indicates we should have none of it left in existence.

There is no scientific basis behind it... except that it's an observable phenomenon that no one denies exists. So, hey, science. The only possible way to conclude that there's no scientific basis behind it is to say that it literally does not happen; anything else is a complete misrepresentation of what the word "science" means.

 

[Jaepheth]

Human beings traveling faster than 30mph isn't natural. The body simply isn't designed for that kind of speed. Do you know how many people die in accidents involving speeds of greater than 30mph?

All speed limits should be set to no greater than 30, and we need to ban powered flight right out.

[/retarded idea that something should be illegal/immoral because it's not natural]

Also, since homosexuality wasn't designed and manufactured by humans, I'm pretty sure it's natural by definition.

 

[thraashman]

How can you have a non religious talk about marriage? That sounds contradictory.

Marriage existed prior to any religion. Marriage is a social concept that has been around since before the written word, before civilization as more than a tribal concept. The concept of marriage has existed in some form since very early man. Religions just tried to incorporate it because it was such an ingrained social concept that making it be a religious ceremony assisted in the control religions want.

So really, how can you have a religious talk about marriage, sounds contradictory.

 

[thraashman]

Human beings traveling faster than 30mph isn't natural. The body simply isn't designed for that kind of speed. Do you know how many people die in accidents involving speeds of greater than 30mph?

All speed limits should be set to no greater than 30, and we need to ban powered flight right out.

[/retarded idea that something should be illegal/immoral because it's not natural]

Also, since homosexuality wasn't designed and manufactured by humans, I'm pretty sure it's natural by definition.

The fastest human foot speed ever recorded is 27.4 mph. So saying 30 is pushing the limits a bit like a homosexual wanting to marry a dog!

 

[Oyeve]

The bible says two men ought not lay down together. I think the institution of marriage is sacred and should remain between a man and a woman. That said, I am in favor of civil unions between people of the same sex so they are not discriminated against when it comes to benefits, such as those available to married men and women couples. It's my perogative to not agree with homosexuality. I'm not going to advocate against it, just go about your business and don't be in my face about it.

The bible was written 2k years ago. So, homosexuality was ok prior to that in your eyes? Wow, bible spewers are the biggest kind of assholes, right next to cops.

 

[Jaepheth]

Marriage existed prior to any religion. Marriage is a social concept that has been around since before the written word, before civilization as more than a tribal concept. The concept of marriage has existed in some form since very early man. Religions just tried to incorporate it because it was such an ingrained social concept that making it be a religious ceremony assisted in the control religions want.

So really, how can you have a religious talk about marriage, sounds contradictory.

I've seen it said that religion wasn't really the one trying to incorporate it. Governments wanted to keep track of census data, and times were the local priest was the only one who could read and write.

Marriage has for most of its existence been about property (who owns/inherits what) and taxes.

 

[soulcougher73]

Who said ANYTHING about Christianity? How about society? How about history?

How about Part A doesn't go with Part A? How about babies can't be made from there? The list goes on and on and on and on and on....

Well considering history has gay marriage and society is moving closer to allowing it now, and babies have nothing to do with marriage.. Wait.. What leg were you trying to stand on again?

 

[sandorski]

The bible says two men ought not lay down together. I think the institution of marriage is sacred and should remain between a man and a woman. That said, I am in favor of civil unions between people of the same sex so they are not discriminated against when it comes to benefits, such as those available to married men and women couples. It's my perogative to not agree with homosexuality. I'm not going to advocate against it, just go about your business and don't be in my face about it.

So they can be Married as long as it is a different word?

Ridiculous.

 

[thraashman]

So they can be Married as long as it is a different word?

Ridiculous.

Would you expect anything from him that isn't ridiculous?

 

[sandorski]

Why is it wrong? Because it goes against everything nature intended, physically it shouldn't happen.

Should it be illegal? No, I dont care what you do on your own time. As long as your decisions dont affect me, I dont care about them. I just think being gay is stupid and would never want to be with someone of the same sex.

Does Nature talk to you?

How do you Know it goes against Nature?

 

[Newell Steamer]

Give me some arguments why homosexuality is wrong and should be declared illegal.

- fear
- hate
- self loathing
- manipulation (i.e. I don't see anything wrong with homosexuals, but I will side with homophobes to get some $$$ or followers)

There isn't anything scientific and non-religious against homosexuality. However, religion is the prime 'sheild' that the 4 arguments I listed usually hide behind.

Traditionally, yes, religion has been the spearhead on movements against homosexuals. But, you will find quite a few churches and religious organizations that welcome all of God's children. Oh,.. and Jesus Christ never said anything against homosexuals,.. ever. So, Christians who take up the religious argument frankly fall into, again, one of those 4 things I listed above.

 

[sandorski]

No it wouldnt. Why would you marry someone you arent attracted to?

Thats my reasoning behind same sex marriage, its not natural for a man to be attracted to another man the way he should be attracted to a woman.
But like I said, I dont give a rats behind what you choose to do. As long as it isnt affecting me, im fine.

It may not be "natural" for you, but it is for some.

 

[Abwx]

So only people who can have babies should be allowed to get married?

Since the list goes on and on in your mind please provide the full and complete list so we know what logical fallacies you've bought into.

Only people who are supposed to have babies.

Mariage is a legal act by wich a man and a woman are granted some rights as a mean to ease a family s life, what have the gays to do with such a case.?.

Are they going to have babies.?
No, all they wants are the rights granted to families, that is inheritage and social security benefits mainly, that s all for the money and nothing else.

In short sexuality has replaced will to make babies as the fundamental of mariage and this is where things are going wrong, one cant ask rights based on his sexuality, as said why not granting the same rights to zoophiles if sexuality is what define mariage.?

 

[sandorski]

Only people who are supposed to have babies.

Mariage is a legal act by wich a man and a woman are granted some rights as a mean to ease a family s life, what have the gays to do with such a case.?.

Are they going to have babies.?
No, all they wants are the rights granted to families, that is inheritage and social security benefits mainly, that s all for the money and nothing else.

In short sexuality has replaced will to make babies as the fundamental of mariage and this is where things are going wrong, one cant ask rights based on his sexuality, as said why not granting the same rights to zoophiles if sexuality is what define mariage.?

Not all people Marry for the sole purpose of having a Family. Some do it exclusively as an act of Love and desire for Companionship. My Mother for eg, who got remarried a year ago at the age of 66. Should she have been denied Marriage?

 

[sandorski]

Would you expect anything from him that isn't ridiculous?

Not really.