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Girls suck :(

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GTaudiophile,

There IS a girl out there for you, and you will find her eventually! You want the right girls to notice you, not the wrong ones. Just be patient, 21 is still very, very young. 🙂
 
err stop with the name calling.. girls slutty?

You know the problem is all guys want both total purity and sex.. doesn't match does it😛

Maybe some of these slutty girls only had sex to please the guy.. low self esteem etc.. yet you place all the blame on them it seems. being high school.. the rumors are probably false, and you'd be a moron for believing them.
 
Not all girls suck. And don't judge too much by rumors alone, judge for yourself. Almost every girl I went out with didn't do anything physical with me till at least a month into dating (sometimes I'm the one stopping it, figure that out!). Worse comes to worse, just get to know her better and you'll find out in time.
 


<< You know the problem is all guys want both total purity and sex.. doesn't match does it >>



No doubt. I know a guy who is a 'good Christian' who had a 17 year old girlfriend. He met her at church. He told her all the things she wanted to hear and, after she was sure that God meant for them to be together, they had sex.

Well, he decided that since she had sex with him before marriage, she couldn't possibly be the one God meant for him to be with. The relationship was tainted with sin.

He dumped her and she attempted to commit suicide.

Bastard.

What's worse, is that I have heard this sentiment expressed a lot... you try to get the girl to have sex with you, but when she does, she is 'dirty'. 🙁
 
Isla, that situation is sadly way too common among Christians. I often wonder if I could fall into the same trap. Some of the strongest Christians I know are women who have climbed out of that situation, though.
 
yup, elemental, don't rely on other persons reasons. My gf if sweet, very very deep, and just all around great. But she had a son at 17... and no father. and she's got a great body, and personality, and she acts (somtimes) a little provocativly. So my aunt has named her as &quot;sexually active&quot; and my aunt won't talk to me any more. And makes mean comments to my mother about my GF, (my mom and GF are good friends)

What my aunt doesn't know, or refuses to acnoledge is that my Gf was Taken advantage of by a scum jerk teacher In highschool, and she's going thru an emotionally draining court battle to get the creep put away.

Alot of the people in my GF's church who also don't know the story, and have branded her.
And its stupid of you to believe that girl. sometimes people go thru loose fazes, other times the get wrongly accused.

SO TO ALL YOU GUYS THAT JUDGE A BOOK BY THE WORD OF A BAD CRITIC :| THINK first!!
 
GTaudiophile

It's sad, isn't it? When Mr Isla and I were engaged, I knew he would break the engagement if we had sex before the wedding. I had 2 things going for me: One, I had already been married and divorced and was determined to start over as a born-again-virgin and Two, I am very intuitive and I could tell that was how the men are in his family.

If you already see the potential for this happening, you will be able to avoid it. You can step back and see it... the ones who CAN'T see it are the ones who will end up doing it.

It just so happens that I know a lovely Christian girl who is a couple of years older than you but she is still a virgin and probably the kind of girl you are looking for. If you ever fly into my state, LMK. 😉
 
Elemental007: Go with your gut. Try talking to this girl and see how she seems to you. If she's not right, keep looking, there is a girl out there for you.
 
Just wait till you get to college to find a more meaningful relationship. Have your fun and get it out of you so when you do find the right person you have no need for anyone else!
 
I've had similar problems, but not with the sex. (Still a virgin! Yes!) They always want to take my money. One of my gf's I really liked, and I thought she was genuine. I took her to her senior prom, she dumped me right after. Gee I only sunk $500 into her, I was pretty dumb. I've been burned out on women since. I'm just not even going to bother with them until I'm out of college, have a nice job, and am able to provide for a good family.
 
Hurm.. I don't get it.

Never once did it cross my mind to get some from my current GF, then leave. Just the opposite. No, we are not married, and no, prolly not anytime soon either. It's just once we figured out things were serious, we went ahead with it.. We were both virgins at the time (ok, me &quot;more&quot; than her. meaning she &quot;dated&quot; and obviously did the petting and stuff with others) and it was definitely something that maybe not strengthened the relationship, but sure as hell gave us something fun to do when we were bored. 🙂


I dunno, I don't get how guys could possibly think sleeping with a girl b/f marriage is slutty. Hell, the guy is usually the one to pressure more for it than the girl even. Why should women hide from what they want and guys be able to try to &quot;get it&quot;? argh. Of course, if she would have slept with other people it gets harder, just because of the jealousy factor, but I wouldn't label someone who has sex in comitted relationships anything close to a slut.

Just confused. I seriously don't get some people. 😛

-Phil
 
So what if she had that rep? Talk to her and get to know her - people change over time. I know someone who used to cheat on her man all the time and flirted around a whole bunch, but she's done a 180 and changed completely. If you're serious with it - make sure she will be as well.
 
Phil, in my case, it just has to do with &quot;the law&quot; as put forth by the Bible. The Songs of Solomon is a good read for everyone:

All night long on my bed, I looked for the one my heart loves; I looked for him but did not find him. I will get up now and go about the city. through its streets and squares; I will search for the one my heart loves. So I looked for him but did not find him. The watchman found me as they made their rounds in the city. &quot;Have you seen the one my heart loves?&quot; Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me. Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you by the gazelles and by the does of the field; Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires. Song of Songs 3:1-5
 
You just now figured that out? Well, good for you!

Anyway, i wish i had lots of girls thea &quot;suck&quot; the way she is, 'coze right now i have plenty of smart female non-girlfriends, and i really need a slutty one so i can finaly get layed!
 
Wow!! I cannot believe what I'm reading. Hellooo why are we blaming the girls all the time?? THe guys who slept with her and contributed to her slutiness are also to blame. True, if she wanted to be pure and chaste she wouldn't have done it with anyone until she found the right person. Hmmm.. so he got her drunk and then wiggled his way into her pants. Now thats bordering rape IMHO, shes not even completely aware of what she's doing. Anyways, just distribute the blame evenly.



<< well let me rephrase that - I want some just in a relationship with a nice, intelligent, sweet, beautiful, athletic girl >>



Well man so do I and most of the guys I know. I'm single too so we are all in hunt for the same diva.. haha..no j/k. It's nice to know that other nice guys exist in this world. 🙂

I dated this girl once and I really liked her, we went to a dance together and she felt I danced too close to her, after she pulled me closer to her repeatedly during the dance. Needless to say , after that she didnot even talk to me. Now I wasn't &quot;doing&quot; anything to her except holding her and dancing. Well she thought I was trying to sleep with her that night and I wanted to get a head start. Oh well. 🙁

I feel, like many others on this panel, that there is a right someone out there for everyone and they will cross paths at the right time. So be patient man. I feel the need to be loved too, but maybe now is not the right time for it.

Peace..
 
kinda surprised i'm not hearing more from girls about how GUYS suck.

came across a few replies that hit it on the head...about guys having a double standard. wanting girls to put out, yet expecting their women to be pure otherwise they're unworthy of marriage. and why is that girls who sleep around are slutty but the same can't be said of guys that sleep around?

this is a touchy subject with me since sex ruined my first relationship. even though we had waited two years before sleeping together, once we started it was downhill from there. our whole relationship became purely physical and we lost everything else that made it worthwhile. after she and i broke up, i spent two years with someone i had met in college, and the whole time we were together, she didn't want to go all the way and i respected that. amazingly enough, there were times our intimacy was even better than sex, just because of the emotional connection that was there. there's a sad ending to that story too (and Isla's heard it before), but i'll spare y'all since the point i was trying to make is that you can't blame one person in a relationship/tryst for everything.

i don't hear any criticism of the guys who were trying to get into the girls' panties, only girl-bashing for LETTING them. social pressure (especially from someone with whom you're in love) can really be hard to resist sometimes.

you made a comment about how hard it is to find a girl who isn't slutty. well, if your definition of slutty is having had several prior sexual encounters, then God help us if more women adopt the same standard because then it'll be a lot harder for THEM to find guys who aren't slutty.
 
Just have fun with the slut and you never know, she might turn out to be a cool chick. Treat her with some respect, if you do then maybe she'll realise she doesn't have to be slutty to attract a guy.
 
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