Girl Kicked Off Plane After Tantrum

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: halik
Word,
that's why i LOVE NYC bars... all of my stuff doesn't smell like sh!t the next day.

They banned smoking in bars there? Amazing.

I can always tell when one of my apartmentmates has been to a bar, because they'll stink of tobacco smoke - and neither one smokes.

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: Looney
I'm with you on that. Sounds like the parents has absolutely no control over their kid. Wait until that kid is 14.

..it's the liberal "free range" way of raising kids. Let em run wild and undisciplined and do all the drugs/sex they want.

Liberal? Maybe the die-hard extremists, like those in CA that are proposing that stupid antispanking law. Little kids don't really have the mental capacity to understand diplomacy, and they may simply lack the self-discipline to keep themselves calm all the time. Sometimes a far more basic form of communication is required. From there, they can begin to learn self-control without physical "interaction" as such.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
In their defense, in this day and age, it has become much more difficult for parents to instill discipline in unruly children. 15 years ago, that child would have gotten a light spanking and the situation avoided. These days, kids run wild and parents are pretty much helpless.

Discipline can be taight without the need for spanking.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Refund was fine. But the offer for free round trip tickets? No way.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Flew on United home from Chicago when a Latino family boarded the plane with their 4 kids. Their three year old was completely out of control. Stood up during take off and refused to sit.

Flgiht attendants scolded the mother a few times but she refsued to do anything but drink her Coke and stuff her face wit the free snacks. Mother was a good 300lbs and was a dsigrace.

I wish they would have been kicked off the flight as her little welfare checks created havoc for 3+hrs.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
In their defense, in this day and age, it has become much more difficult for parents to instill discipline in unruly children. 15 years ago, that child would have gotten a light spanking and the situation avoided. These days, kids run wild and parents are pretty much helpless.

Discipline can be taight without the need for spanking.

yeah but a swat on the ass can get the point across and rememberd.

i can count the number of times i have spanked my daughter. 1) when she ran out in the middle of the road. 2) when she had a hissy fit in the store and started throwing stuff out of the cart.

thats it.

after both she has not done either.

would talking have worked? to a point. now she knows that both are serious and not to do them agian.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I saw the interview with the parents on Good Morning America this morning, and the little brat was about to have a freakout on TV while her parents were swearing she is sooooo good. She was squirming all over the place, and starting to whine mommy mommy mommy. I was hoping she'd have another tantrum, but they ended the interview before it happened.

I couldn't believe they had those morons on television. Then the dad tried to blame it on the pain she suffered on the flight there, since she supposedly had ear surgery before they flew. What the ****** were the parents thinking?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
In their defense, in this day and age, it has become much more difficult for parents to instill discipline in unruly children. 15 years ago, that child would have gotten a light spanking and the situation avoided. These days, kids run wild and parents are pretty much helpless.

I don't know why it's so difficult. I think I was that age, maybe 4 when I flew from PA to Colorado. I don't think I minded. I liked airplanes, and there I was in one. Of course, when I was really little, I loved explosions, especially watching old war footage of planes crashing and blowing up. My parents said I'd just totally bust up laughing. I was several years old too when I watched Little Shop of Horrors. My parents were worried that it might scare me. They said I laughed hysterically when Seymore was tossing chopped up pieces of the dentist to the plant. I guess I'm just sadistic from the start. 😀

people (and kids) are different. Just because you like somthing doesn't make it universal. Hell, I've seen adults in near tears over their fear of flying, let alone a 3 year old that afraid of flying. Not that that was the issue here. But as I said, these days had the parents given the kid a spanking to make her behave, a passenger or flight attendent may well have reported it as child abuse and the parent been arrested.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I saw the interview with the parents on Good Morning America this morning, and the little brat was about to have a freakout on TV while her parents were swearing she is sooooo good. She was squirming all over the place, and starting to whine mommy mommy mommy. I was hoping she'd have another tantrum, but they ended the interview before it happened.

thats probably because the kid was woken up at 4AM to do the interview and then had to sit there for 2 hours under hot lights waiting for the interview to begin.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Refund was fine. But the offer for free round trip tickets? No way.

totally agree. The didn't take an Airtran flight so they were due the refund. I think Airtran tried to buy them off with the free tickets so they wouldn't raise a fuss. And if they WERE denied boarding for 24 hours, I think they probably had a right to complain.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
All you that are commenting on how they parents should have better control of their kids obviously don't have a 3 year old of your own. A LOT easier said than done.

That's just common sense, I don't see anyone arguing that.

But if the kid needs to be seated and belted in for her own safety and that of the other passengers, you pick her up, park her screaming butt in the seat, and belt her in. Keep your hand on the buckle so she can't get up. Why on earth would a parent be reluctant to do that?

 

[Genx87]

The airline did what it needed to do. They refunded them and kicked them off the plane. Kids at that age can really be uncontrolable(sp). Even if they spanked her lightly chances are it would only make it worse.

 

[Tobolo]

Originally posted by: Mill
I'm a frequent flyer and I HATE whining kids. The company would have been in the right, but they screwed up in the end. They should not have denied them boarding for 24 hours. That is absurd to think it would take 24 to calm the child down. They should have told them they couldn't take this flight, and that they need the child to be calm before the next one OR they would be denied boarding for 24 hours.

Your asuming that their was another flight that day.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Refund was fine. But the offer for free round trip tickets? No way.

totally agree. The didn't take an Airtran flight so they were due the refund. I think Airtran tried to buy them off with the free tickets so they wouldn't raise a fuss. And if they WERE denied boarding for 24 hours, I think they probably had a right to complain.

yeah but they are trying to milk it for everything they can. its been on fox, cnn etc.


screw them. they are blameing the plane for it. the stewidess did teh right thing and asking them to leave.

 

[BigDH01]

Man, when I was a kid I got spanked. In fact, my dad kept a paddle (you know, the kind with holes drilled through so you could swing it faster) in the kitchen. Whenever I got out of line, he grabbed the paddle and all he had to do was show it to me. That was enough.

Listen, having children is your choice. It does not allow you to inconvenience everyone else. I am speaking as someone who doesn't have kids, but it can be really quite annoying. If you can't get on an airplane without your child throwing a tantrum, don't do it. I didn't pay good money and arrive at the airport on-time to be delayed by your screaming child. Or worse, to have to listen to your screaming child throughout the entire trip.

Please, don't take your young one to a late showing of a movie. I tried watching a post 7 o'clock showing of Star Wars and by the end I couldn't stand the crying anymore. Young kids won't be able to tolerate a long movie past 7 o'clock. I wish some parents were more considerate.

I am really annoyed by the people at work. The ones with kids are always leaving early while not taking vacation. It's just an unwritten rule that they have kids and sometimes they have to leave. That's nice, but hardly fair. I don't get that kind of special treatment. Most of the time I have to skip my classes for work, where's my love? And then they get 6 weeks maternity leave (though unpaid). When I wanted to do a 6-week internship I wasn't able. Why the double standard?

I'm not saying that all kids are bad and I understand that children are the future. It's just that sometimes children and their parents can be very rude and annoying. It also frustrates me that they get special priviledges at work. I'm sure it's not easy to be a working parent, but it's not easy to be a working student either.

BTW, I wish people wouldn't make stupid comments about liberals and "letting the children roam free." I consider myself to be pretty progressive but would have no hesitation spanking my child.

 

[waggy]

oh man! the parents were sopposed to be on CNN. but tehy did not show up (or call by the sounds of it).


ok i take back defending them. they are tards. really they are.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: waggy
oh man! the parents were sopposed to be on CNN. but tehy did not show up (or call by the sounds of it).


ok i take back defending them. they are tards. really they are.

The kid probably refused to get into the taxi. :roll:

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: waggy
oh man! the parents were sopposed to be on CNN. but tehy did not show up (or call by the sounds of it).


ok i take back defending them. they are tards. really they are.

The kid probably refused to get into the taxi. :roll:

...but the parents would have had the child at the studio if they'd just been given "a little more time to calm her down." :laugh:

 

[rudder]

That airline has some crappy employees. I remember flying shortly after 9/11 with my then 3 yo. She was fine until she got on the plane and started screaming that she wanted to get off. SHe was out of control for a bit. It did not dawn on my until later that she had probably seen the hijacked planes crashing into the WTC about 100 times on TV.

But this was Southwest and the flight attendants were very helpful offering cookies and drinks. She was crazy upset until the plane pushed back and then she did a 180 and seemed to really enjoy looking out the window.

 

[SSSnail]

I fly a lot, and lemme tell you, if I was on that flight, I'd pay the parents to get their unruly kid off the damn plane. At least now if I see their dumb asses on any other flights that I'm on, I can just promptly ask for a different flight.

Hey, I have an idea! Why don't we invent some bs like "Noise Terrahrish" and place the entire family on Terrah watch, bar them from flying forever. :laugh:

 

[dabuddha]

I freaking hate Airtran. Valujet thinks they can rename their crap ass airlines and people will forget how much they suck.

Two months ago, I was booked on a flight from DFW to BWI and they ended up cancelling the flight because they didn't sell enough tickets. The next flight was 4 hours later which is complete horse crap. I asked them to put me on an earlier flight and their response was there are no earlier flights.
I then asked them to put me on another airline and they refused to do that as well.
The only "solution" they could come up with is refunding half of my ticket price. I told the moron on the phone that my only goal for today is to get my ass back to Baltimore by 7:00PM and how in the hell would refunding half my ticket get me there?
In the end, I got back to Baltimore at 1:00AM.

Fvck Valujet/Air tran.

PS I know this is OT from the OP's post but I had to get that off my chest 😀

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: rudder
That airline has some crappy employees. I remember flying shortly after 9/11 with my then 3 yo. She was fine until she got on the plane and started screaming that she wanted to get off. SHe was out of control for a bit. It did not dawn on my until later that she had probably seen the hijacked planes crashing into the WTC about 100 times on TV.

But this was Southwest and the flight attendants were very helpful offering cookies and drinks. She was crazy upset until the plane pushed back and then she did a 180 and seemed to really enjoy looking out the window.

You make that sound so normal. 🙁

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
In their defense, in this day and age, it has become much more difficult for parents to instill discipline in unruly children. 15 years ago, that child would have gotten a light spanking and the situation avoided. These days, kids run wild and parents are pretty much helpless.

The rule on the plane is that all children, over the age of 2, must be under control and seated prior to take off.

A child is 3 years old and is being unruly.

After a request to subdue the child, the parents cannot.

Therefore, the child and its guardian(s) may not fly on the plane because they are in clear violation of the rules.






Simple, huh?

 

[Scarpozzi]

But I don't fly AirTran.... I don't want these people on MY flights!!!

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: PClark99
Just wondering do any of you experts have children or ever flown with a child under the age of 3?

Up until around age 4 kids are pretty prone to meltdowns due to any number of causes. Though it is possible to somewhat minimize the duration if you are patient and understanding.

We did a trip to FLA and back last year with my then 16 month old son. It was about 2 and a half hours from hell each way.
That being said if it was my son delaying the flight from taking off, even for 5 minutes I would talk to the attendant and offer to disembark and grab a later flight if necessary.

As a parent i would have been very embarassed, not only for the behavior but also causing distress on the other people on those flights.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: PClark99
Just wondering do any of you experts have children or ever flown with a child under the age of 3?

Up until around age 4 kids are pretty prone to meltdowns due to any number of causes. Though it is possible to somewhat minimize the duration if you are patient and understanding.

We did a trip to FLA and back last year with my then 16 month old son. It was about 2 and a half hours from hell each way.
That being said if it was my son delaying the flight from taking off, even for 5 minutes I would talk to the attendant and offer to disembark and grab a later flight if necessary.

As a parent i would have been very embarassed, not only for the behavior but also causing distress on the other people on those flights.

Ding Ding Ding! Anytime we take our kids out, the 4-year old knows he is supposed to behave. If he doesn't, I'll take him outside or to a bathroom and deal with his tantrum there so as not to disturb those around us.