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Orsorum

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<< My question is this: Why is hell concieved as such an evil and horrible place? This doesn't make any logical sense. Wouldn't Satan make it as attractive as possible in order to try to attract people away from God? >>



Satan can try to make Hell as attractive as possible... he already does, with sin.

Sin is nothing than a twisting of what God has given us. If you think about it, nothing sinful is inherently evil - it's just twisted.

And that's what's horrible about it... it's not the real thing. Hell is a place devoid of even the twisted goodness that exists on this earth. It's a place devoid of any "good" whatsoever.

Not sure if this makes any sense to anyone. I'll come back after my stats lecture and we can throw stuff around a bit more.
 

GasX

Lifer
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If God created a world with so much suffering and Satan is God's nemesis, then is satan really that evil? I mean, isn't possible he is creating worlds filled with joy to piss God off?
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
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It's sad what rational intelligent beings will make themself belief in a vain attempt to bring meaning to their life.
 

Jfrag Teh Foul

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<< My question is this: Why is hell concieved as such an evil and horrible place? This doesn't make any logical sense. Wouldn't Satan make it as attractive as possible in order to try to attract people away from God? >>



You mean like East Berlin did to keep people out of West Berlin?
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The analogy doesn't work. The people in East Berlin were already there when the Soviets took over. You are not already in Hell (or Heaven) at this moment.
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It does work. You are taking your own comment out of context. You asked...



<< My question is this: Why is hell concieved as such an evil and horrible place? This doesn't make any logical sense. Wouldn't Satan make it as attractive as possible in order to try to attract people away from God?[/ >>



So by your question, you asked if Satan would make Hell an attractive place to take souls away from God. Then my question was simply did the Soviets make East Berlin such an attractive place to keep its citizens from trying to flock to West Berlin.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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some believe that satan loves god. something about god not being true to his word, or something like that. i dunno. just what i heard.

i wonder how this guy knows so much about hell. :D
 

XZeroII

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Why would satan need to make Hell attractive? enought people go there already. Perhaps there is a Heaven and Hell, perhaps there isn't. Personally, I've got nothing to lose believing in them and trying to get to heaven. On the other hand, people who think people like me are idiots... let me put it this way, if you are right then we will both be dead and who cares because we are no more. If I am right though, you will be sorry for eternity. As I said before, I've got nothing to lose by believing in this stuff.

edit: According to what i've been told, Satan was the most beautiful angel God ever created. Lucifer(?)'s good looks went to his head and sat in God's throne. Lucifer was sent to Hell for his crime along with 1/3 of all the angels. The 1/3 were all of the music angels since Lucifer was the leader of the musical angels. I probably got alot of the details wrong and left quite a few out, but I guess Satan is still mad about being kicked out of heaven.
 

wnied

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I feel ashamed when I see websites like these. One version of the Christian faiths admonishment of the others. As though one versions the better of all others. Christianity as a whole is a religion to bring all people who believe in Christ together. Not scare someone into believing into their particular version. This overstatement of Hell, and what happens to those who dont believe in or follow the christian faith, is typical of a person with a very small mind, and a limited view of a religion as a whole. Whether you believe or not is a choice for the individual.

Live And Let Live.
~wnied~
 

bizmark

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They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
Sinners are much more fun...
And only the good die young


^Billy Joel song, been stuck in my head for like 3 days now.... so friggin catchy!

Of course, it's just a song and has no meaning.
 

HOWITIS

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<< The sphere of Hell is a round, hollowed-out place in the Earth's core. >>





can't...... stop.................. laughing..................




the core is solid numbnuts
 

oLLie

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<< I've got nothing to lose by believing in this stuff. >>


This kind of self-justification doesn't work for everyone. Doesn't work for me.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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<< If God created a world with so much suffering and Satan is God's nemesis, then is satan really that evil? I mean, isn't possible he is creating worlds filled with joy to piss God off? >>



God didn't create suffering... there was no death, until sin was introduced into the world. What was sin (IMO)? A twisting of that which was originally good, done by man, who was enticed by Satan.
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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<< Hell is the eternal home of all drunkards, whores, thieves, murderers, hypocrites, queers and lesbians. >>


Sounds like a pretty good time.....
 

Jzero

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<< The sphere of Hell is a round, hollowed-out place in the Earth's core. >>





can't...... stop.................. laughing..................




the core is solid numbnuts
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Well, would you expect this clown to know the difference between the core and the mantle? hehe
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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<< Hell is the eternal home of all drunkards, whores, thieves, murderers, hypocrites, queers and lesbians. >>


Sounds like a pretty good time.....
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Interesting, see as how some of Jesus' most devout followers were among that crowd... I mean, c'mon, one guy worked for the IRS!!!
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Well, considering he's got MAJOR theological understanding problems, I'm not taking him seriously.
rolleye.gif


nik
 

Orsorum

Lifer
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<< Well, considering he's got MAJOR theological understanding problems, I'm not taking him seriously.
rolleye.gif


nik
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Thankfully. If you ever WANT to have a serious theological discussion, ask Athanasius and some of the other cool dudes like that around here.

 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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<< Well, considering he's got MAJOR theological understanding problems, I'm not taking him seriously.
rolleye.gif


nik
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Thankfully. If you ever WANT to have a serious theological discussion, ask Athanasius and some of the other cool dudes like that around here.
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Why? I can hold my own. ;)

nik
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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<<

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<< Well, considering he's got MAJOR theological understanding problems, I'm not taking him seriously.
rolleye.gif


nik
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Thankfully. If you ever WANT to have a serious theological discussion, ask Athanasius and some of the other cool dudes like that around here.
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Why? I can hold my own. ;)

nik
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'Cuz... just 'cuz! :p

Lawdy, I'm glad it's Friday and I have time to chat on here...
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Yes, it's Friday. And my last free one for quite a while. I'm enjoying this one. :) New job starts on Monday, and that link was good for a laugh. :cool:

nik
 

Cyberian

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<< That site says I'm only 20 miles from hell, now I'm thinking New Jersey is a lot farther away than that. >>

Yeah, but where would you rather go? That's a real toss-up there!!
 

Blayze

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Feb 22, 2000
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hey maybe he knows what he is talking about...

look at his email address @AOL.COM

maybe he is in hell!?!? :Q
 

d1abolic

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Sep 21, 2001
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This is just the kind of garbage that is used to scare people into believing in God. Disagree? Well then, read another article on his site.

<< I found a little booklet entitled, "This Was Your Life" which told the story of a rich man who died. He stood before God who replayed the man's life and it was found that he had rejected Jesus Christ. God then banished him to the lake of fire. I was scared. The back of the booklet said that I needed to believe in Jesus in order to escape the flames of hell, so I prayed to God and asked Him to save me. I didn't know exactly what I was doing. I just knew that I needed some help from God to stay out of hell. >>

So here we have a child that is fooled into believing that if she doesn't believe in God, she will be tortured. People are so gullible. She finds some stupid booklet, reads it and reforms her life around it without bothering to verify it's authenticity.
 

d1abolic

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Sep 21, 2001
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<< Your new home will be made up of demons, fallen angels, principalities, powers, spiritual wickedness, and even Satan himself, and YOU will be at the bottom of the guest list! >>

So hell is like organized crime? You start from the bottom and work your way up! Well then sir, you'll be hearing from me again!
 

HOWITIS

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i'm an atheist, but i thought all christians beleved you went to hell if you did not get saved? is this not true?




<< If God created a world with so much suffering and Satan is God's nemesis, then is satan really that evil? I mean, isn't possible he is creating worlds filled with joy to piss God off? >>





this is pretty interesting. god creates man, man sins with the apple, therefore god created sin. also, he lets all the killing, poverty and whatever else happen in the world. given this is satan really such a bad guy? what did he really do other than give us knowledge? which god didn't even think we deserved. the god of the bible seems very egotisticle, wanting a bunch of stupid mindless people to go around worshiping him.