George Zimmerman: Did the prosecution prove its case?

[Londo_Jowo]

Spidey would be laughing at the butthurt of the pro-TM crowd these days.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'm not butthurt, I also voted in the poll.

 

[Jaskalas]

Only by one person, the killer...

It's night... TM had a lead. The wind noises on the audio stopped.

You think the claim is not reasonable, that it does not have corroboration?

 

[Doppel]

34:0 in the poll at the moment.

 

[soundforbjt]

It's night... TM had a lead. The wind noises on the audio stopped.

You think the claim is not reasonable, that it does not have corroboration?

Just because he stopped running does not mean he quit looking, GZ himself will not/has not accounted for the "missing 2-3 minutes".

 

[PokerGuy]

In the end though, only the opinion of 6 jurors really matter. The judge tried her best to help the prosecution, but in the end even with the help of the judge they just couldn't manufacture a case where none existed. Hopefully those 6 people are intelligent enough to see the case for what it is, a politically/racially motivated witch hunt.

 

[mitchelt]

This would have never gone to trial if Obama would have kept his focus on HIS job!

 

[nextJin]

That's an interesting point, I bet a lot of mems come out of his statement of "if I had a son".

Yea your son would have looked and been a thug criminal who was killed by a law abiding citizen (a stupid one at that).

 

[thraashman]

This would have never gone to trial if Obama would have kept his focus on HIS job!

This is such a stupid statement that I'm gonna have to remember your name to remember to discount anything you say in the future in P&N.

 

[mitchelt]

Quote: Originally Posted by mitchelt This would have never gone to trial if Obama would have kept his focus on HIS job! This is such a stupid statement that I'm gonna have to remember your name to remember to discount anything you say in the future in P&N. __________________

You are either an idiot or have no idea of the statement Obama made about this case, otherwise you would not have responded the way you did.

I wonder how many of the 6,716 posts you've made were equally as "stupid"?

 

[woolfe9998]

I would point out that the following is claimed to have stopped before the "fight".

Yes, Zimmerman, as the sole surviving participant in this fight, did make that claim.

From what we know, it's fair to say that there is a black hole in the timeline somewhere between where Zimmerman is following Martin, and where Martin is on top of Zimmerman. Only the girl on the phone could shed light on that, but her vantage is inadequate, even if she's credible. Which is why an acquittal is dictated here based on substantial doubt if for no other reason.

 

[justoh]

I miss-clicked. Sorry. Put me down for a no as well.

 

[davmat787]

I miss-clicked. Sorry. Put me down for a no as well.

I hope you have never made that same mistake while serving on a jury! :awe:

 

[soulcougher73]

nm

 

[RabidMongoose]

Yes, it was very convincing. Send him to jail now.

 

[buckshot24]

You should have made the poll public. I want to see who said yes.

 

[pcgeek11]

Just because he stopped running does not mean he quit looking, GZ himself will not/has not accounted for the "missing 2-3 minutes".

He doesn't have to. It is on the prosecutor to prove beyond any reasonable doubt ...

They failed miserably!

 

[DCal430]

The prosecutor proved beyond all doubt that zimmerman executed Trayvon. Zimmerman failed to prove that it was self defense, and should be found guilty.

 

[DCal430]

Only a jury reeking of corruption and perhaps even racism would find him not guilty. I dare say, I hope this jury doesn't stink.

 

[nextJin]

You trolling DC?

Slow news day?

 

[sportage]

The guy with the gun always wins. Thats how our brains work in this fuvked up gun loving country. Fists to defend against unwanted assault to stand ones ground as it were, not applicable. Shooting a kid just minding his own business when you on a quest to assault and then kill, perverted justice.
Only a gun can turn a cold blooded killer into some poor helpless victim.
I still say that if Martin would have had a gun and shot first, he'd be called the hero.
We know what Zimmerman is, was, is, still is, will forever be.
And why he went after the black kid.
Its called MURDER ONE.
Martin was standing his ground, not Zimmerman.
The guy with the gun always wins because, well just because.
So ladies, hate your hubby? Then pick a fight, blow his head off, and claim standing your ground.
Theres a new sherif in town, sherif perverted justice George.

 

[Doppel]

You trolling DC?

Slow news day?

He is always a troll. I do him an honor even relaying part of his trolling in my sig. I ought change it, soon, he's too worthless really to have earned the spot.

The guy with the gun always wins. Thats how our brains work in this fuvked up gun loving country. Fists to defend against unwanted assault to stand ones ground as it were, not applicable. Shooting a kid just minding his own business when you on a quest to assault and then kill, perverted justice.
Only a gun can turn a cold blooded killer into some poor helpless victim.
I still say that if Martin would have had a gun and shot first, he'd be called the hero.
We know what Zimmerman is, was, is, still is, will forever be.
And why he went after the black kid.
Its called MURDER ONE.
Martin was standing his ground, not Zimmerman.
The guy with the gun always wins because, well just because.
So ladies, hate your hubby? Then pick a fight, blow his head off, and claim standing your ground.
Theres a new sherif in town, sherif perverted justice George.

lol

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Fists to defend against unwanted assault to stand ones ground as it were, not applicable.

Is there any evidence at all that Zimmerman physically assaulted Martin? The Prosecution has not shown one piece of evidence to suggest that. Asking someone what they are doing in your neighborhood isn't the same as starting a physical altercation. In fact, it isn't even illegal.

Shooting a kid just minding his own business when you on a quest to assault and then kill, perverted justice.

Have you paid any attention to the facts of this case? The "kid" was attempting to murder George Zimmerman by banging his head into the concrete and had already broken his nose. According to one eyewitness, Martin was on top of Zimmerman hitting him "MMA style".

The evidence also suggests that Martin wanted to initiate the confrontation with Zimmerman since he could have entered the townhouse where he was staying if he had wanted to. Dee Dee testified that he had made it home. Instead Martin decided to look for Zimmerman (so that he could fight the "creepy-assed cracka").

We know what Zimmerman is, was, is, still is, will forever be.
And why he went after the black kid.

If he wanted to murder Martin, why the hell would he call the police? How many murderers call the police and invite the police to the scene of the crime?

Martin was standing his ground, not Zimmerman.

Punching a guy in the nose and then trying to kill him by slamming his head into the ground is "standing his ground"? How do you "stand your ground" against someone who's just talking to you? How is being asked a question the same as having your life threatened?

One thing this case has shown is that many black people still want to blame Whitey for everything. They don't want to accept the possibility that Trayvon Martin could have been yet one more in a long line of violent black teens. It is revealing that the black community still has not grown up and still wants to blame Whitey for all of its ills rather than accept responsibility for all of the black-on-black crime, failure to embrace educational opportunities, drug use, and babies having babies. That is why the Hispanic community and other minorities will easily surpass the black community and put it to shame.

I have full confidence that if the verdict is "Not Guilty on all counts" that the black community will embarrass itself with riots and violence.

 

[Doppel]

I have full confidence that if the verdict is "Not Guilty on all counts" that the black community will embarrass itself with riots and violence.

No doubt whatsoever. There has already been violence, vandalism, at least one minor looting by people over this case. Race baiters like sharpton and, unfortunately Obama in this case, stirred the pot and it's going to end up in violence when is is acquitted.

 

[cubby1223]

The guy with the gun always wins.

WRONG!

Well, it is correct in that the guy with the gun is alive.

BUT!

If Zimmerman had pulled out his gun and killed Martin before Martin began beating him up, then this case would be a slam dunk conviction on murder charges.

If Zimmerman did not have a gun and everything up until the shots went exactly the same, Martin would be convicted on at a minimum battery charges.