Real quick, as I must leave out on another service call before Fri. traffic becomes a nightmare. Let's talk about the Silesian-American Corporation for a second. Here is a "cute" little blurb that was recently dug up:
"War-enemy property-U.S. controls
SILESIAN AMERICAN CORPORATION v. CLARK 68 Sup. Ct. 179
The Alien Property Custodian in 1942 vested certain stock of Silesian American Corporation, a Deleware corporation which had been a debtor under the Bankruptcy Act of the United States since July 30, 1941. The stock vested stood in the name of Non Ferrum, a Swiss corporation."
SOURCE: The American Journal of International Law, Vol 42, No. 2. (Apr., 1948), pp 473-475
At any rate, I'll deal with this subject as well as the conspiracy theorists later.
"War-enemy property-U.S. controls
SILESIAN AMERICAN CORPORATION v. CLARK 68 Sup. Ct. 179
The Alien Property Custodian in 1942 vested certain stock of Silesian American Corporation, a Deleware corporation which had been a debtor under the Bankruptcy Act of the United States since July 30, 1941. The stock vested stood in the name of Non Ferrum, a Swiss corporation."
SOURCE: The American Journal of International Law, Vol 42, No. 2. (Apr., 1948), pp 473-475
At any rate, I'll deal with this subject as well as the conspiracy theorists later.
KAMAZON
Golden Member
I accidentaly said Alabama, I ment Arkansas.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/PCC/AR-D.html
This is a link to the same site you got the Alabama results. I accidentally said alabama because LaRouches running mate, Rev. James Bevel lived in Selma with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Amelia Boynton Robinson (who adopted LaRouches wife as her own daughter). Amelia organized the civil rights movement out of her home by leading the fight across Edmund pettis bridge that only white people could cross (but you had to cross it to go vote) that led to their beatings called "Bloddy Sunday". Anyways, He still got over 22% of the vote in Arkansas. This led to Al Gore and Joe Lieberman nullifying the 1965 voters acts rights law (which amelia boynton robinson specifically passed), to kick out the civil rights leaders. How is that for corruption?
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here are the results for Arkansas
Gore, Al 193,750 78%
LaRouche, Lyndon 53,150 22%
After Al Whore nullified the 1965 voters acts rights to kick out the civil rights leaders and LaRouche, he also stole LaRouches delegates, and the state went from a democratic state (LaRouche is a FDR democrat) to a Republican state, thus Fat Al lost! [/edit]
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/PCC/AR-D.html
This is a link to the same site you got the Alabama results. I accidentally said alabama because LaRouches running mate, Rev. James Bevel lived in Selma with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Amelia Boynton Robinson (who adopted LaRouches wife as her own daughter). Amelia organized the civil rights movement out of her home by leading the fight across Edmund pettis bridge that only white people could cross (but you had to cross it to go vote) that led to their beatings called "Bloddy Sunday". Anyways, He still got over 22% of the vote in Arkansas. This led to Al Gore and Joe Lieberman nullifying the 1965 voters acts rights law (which amelia boynton robinson specifically passed), to kick out the civil rights leaders. How is that for corruption?
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here are the results for Arkansas
Gore, Al 193,750 78%
LaRouche, Lyndon 53,150 22%
After Al Whore nullified the 1965 voters acts rights to kick out the civil rights leaders and LaRouche, he also stole LaRouches delegates, and the state went from a democratic state (LaRouche is a FDR democrat) to a Republican state, thus Fat Al lost! [/edit]
shiner
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Yeah...so he got 22% of the vote in Arkansas....that means what exactly? I mean other than the fact that at least 22% of the Democrats in Arkansas didn't want to vote for Al Gore. Plus you missed this tidbit:
"The Arkansas Democratic party will not include votes cast for LaRouche in their delegate computations. Hence, Gore is the only candidate to receive the 15% of the vote needed to qualify for delegates. (The exclusion of LaRouche is in compliance with a decision issued last January by DNC National Chair Joe Andrew. Note: Reports state that LaRouche is a convicted felon who has lost his voting privilege in his home state of Virginia, that is, LaRouche is not a registered Democrat.)"
KAMAZON
Golden Member
It means that LaRouche had enough votes to debate in the debates, and be included in the democratic convention. Now, LaRouches platform was that 'there is no surplus, there is no boom, this is the end of htis financial system. We need a new global financial system or these administrations will try to go to imperial war. This is official and on the record. He warned us about all of this ahead of time, fought the nomination of John Ashcroft, and here we are today.
The Constitution of the USA states anyone who is over 35 years old and was born in the USA can run for President. it is also not the criteria of the Democration Party because LaRouche was the only Presidental Candidate to run from Prison if you remember correctly, and he also got matching funds from teh Democratic party WHILE IN PRISON! He also got Matching funds and ran as a Presidental Candidate in 2000.
What they did do however, is nullify the 1965 Voters Acts rights which LaRouches Runningmate, Rev. James Bevel passed with Dr. Martin Luther King and LaRouches 'adopted stepmother', Amelia Boynton Robinson. They turned the Democratic Party into a private party, like it was before 1965 where they can kick out anyone they want.
OK, let me get this straight. Out of 4,000 shares of "capital stock in UBC", Prescott Bush owned one, correct? Apparently someone later values this one particular share at $1.5 million and he therefore receives said amount, correct? So how much were the other 3,999 shares worth? $5,998,500,000, maybe?
Do you even realize the average market value for large American industrial and financial corporations during the 1940s and 1950s? The market capitalization for General Motors did not even equate to over $5 billion until sometime after 1965.
Oh, and by the way, Prescott S. Bush entered the public arena long before 1952. Actually, 19 years before, which was 1933 in Greenwich, CT. local politics.
Anyway, I'll present additional facts later on.
KAMAZON
Golden Member
According to you (maybe it was someone else, i think it was you), bush stayed on as Managing Director on the Bank 'to support his good Harriman buddy. Well someone acting as Managing Director, would have access to funds by more than just a stock. I'm sure Presscott didn't stay on board 'since he had 1 stock in the company'.
The conspiracy theorist's case grows weaker by the minute.
According to New York State, there is/was no "Union Banking Corporation" ever registered in New York City, or in the state of New York for that matter.
NYS Banking Department - The History of Banking in New York State - Listings for banks beginning with 'U'
However, there was a J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation in New York which acquired shares of Thyssen stock in 1940, according to the W. Averell Harriman Papers in the Library of Congress.
Man this thread sux . . . my $0.02 . . . La Rouche sux, too.
My vote for idiotic, ideological misuse of statistics . . .
The first one is the biggest piece of poo poo . . . considering scarcely a TOTAL of 100 million Americans voted. Anyway, out of all the people that cast votes . . . more voted for Bore than Shrub.
The second statistic means nothing considering Gore's landslide in the Northeast (by millions of votes) is totally negated by Bush winning Alaska . . . what sense does that make . . . unless of course caribou are voting.
Regardless, Bush won the Electoral College while more Americans voted for Gore . . . Bush is the President . . . get over it.
My vote for idiotic, ideological misuse of statistics . . .
The first one is the biggest piece of poo poo . . . considering scarcely a TOTAL of 100 million Americans voted. Anyway, out of all the people that cast votes . . . more voted for Bore than Shrub.
The second statistic means nothing considering Gore's landslide in the Northeast (by millions of votes) is totally negated by Bush winning Alaska . . . what sense does that make . . . unless of course caribou are voting.
Regardless, Bush won the Electoral College while more Americans voted for Gore . . . Bush is the President . . . get over it.
LOL, as you are aware, all that one can can basically assert is that Prescott S. Bush owned one share of stock in UBC, was named on the board of directors, and the institution was seized by the U.S. government. For comparison's sake, retired General H. Norman Schwarzkopf currently holds a directors seat or board membership on least ten U.S. and foreign corporations/institutions right now. At anyrate, out of the 37 references for chapter 2, most are flawed in their respective implications. None of the references can conclusively substantiate statements such as:
"President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany; in financing and managing the buildup of Nazi war industries for the conquest of Europe and war against the U.S.A.; and in the development of Nazi genocide theories and racial propaganda, with their well-known results."
At the start of this thread, you and I both outlined numerous dealings with Nazi Germany by U.S. interests. If history were the judge of the question: "Who assisted the Nazi regime foremost from a U.S. perspective?", I'd say General Motors followed by Standard Oil. James D. Mooney of GM didn't send flowers to Goering's wife and receive a "thank you" reply in the form of a cable for no reason in March of 1940 while bombs were falling in Europe.
Ironically, Mooney was on a U.S. commission that oversaw the rebuilding of Germany after the war.However, GM's relationship with the Third Reich was closely examined during Senate hearings in 1974 when witnesses to the allegations were still alive. Nevertheless, GM was "officially" declared innocent of any specific wrongdoing.
KAMAZON
Golden Member
I surely didn't abandon this thread. I perhaps unlike some of you, prefer to spend my fathers day with my family, instead of glued to the computer seat.
good, so tell me why someone not even registered as a democrat should be part of any democratic party debates or conventions?
KAMAZON
Golden Member
Because the 1965 Voters Acts Rights which Martin Luther King Jr. and LaRouches running mate Rev. James Bevel, and Amelia Boynton Robinson passed to stop the parties from disinfranchising people, made it possible.
What you should really be asking is, *caps added for emphasis* WHY DID THEY NULLIFY THE 1965 VOTERS ACTS RIGHT TO KICK OUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS?
I find it very intresting that none of you care about the grave civil rights abuses done by so called self proclaimed 'civil rights leaders' and 'founders of the internet'. I find it funny you guys call laRouche a rascist, when LaRouches policy for the world development of Africa is the opposite of Al Gores self proclaimed solution of "let them die" in his book, "earth in the balance".
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Do note, that they had to nullify the 1965 Voters Acts Rights in the 2000 Elections to kick out LaRouche and his runningmate Rev. James Bevel after LaRouche won 22% of the votes in Arkansas during the primaries.
Regardless, Bush won the Electoral College while more Americans voted for Gore . .
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Bush won no electoral votes from Florida, he was awarded them by stopping the count. You win by counting ballots, not by not counting them. Bush was not elected, he was selected. What will maybe take decades to get over is the damage the Supreme Coup did to the country. Their selection was a disaster. We are living through a nightmare. Our President's comprehension is on the level of his speech. We are the laughing stock of the world. It's awful.
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Bush won no electoral votes from Florida, he was awarded them by stopping the count. You win by counting ballots, not by not counting them. Bush was not elected, he was selected. What will maybe take decades to get over is the damage the Supreme Coup did to the country. Their selection was a disaster. We are living through a nightmare. Our President's comprehension is on the level of his speech. We are the laughing stock of the world. It's awful.
LunarRay
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The USCCR almost suggested there was a conspiracy to deny all sorts of people statistically aligned to Gore to cast ballots. So what the Thwarts did was only deal with a recount issue which on 5-4 they essentially denied. I think a sanction should have occured putting the vote in limbo until a new vote could be had in Florida... and that would have resulted in a Gore victory..
Alternatively they simply could have counted the votes. That was done months later and Gore won.
LunarRay
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Yeah, But over 10000 did not get to vote or cast a ballot who should have been able to and it would have been the right thing to do... Gore would have won in either case but, for the folks who never got to cast a vote... other important issues were on the table... Congress, local etc.
Yeah, I know the political corruption and fraud is a major issue, among people of character, of course, but I think it's also relevant that Gore won without hypotheticals. He actually won. He got the most votes. The election was stolen not only before but after.
Well, there you go again moonie,
Don't you ever get tired of spreading that misinformation.
What some media company counted months later based on different standards than the State of Florida has no bearing on who won the election.
The Supreme Court vote had no effect on the outcome of the election.
That is all.
Don't you ever get tired of spreading that misinformation.
What some media company counted months later based on different standards than the State of Florida has no bearing on who won the election.
The Supreme Court vote had no effect on the outcome of the election.
That is all.
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