More info on Nazi (NSDAP) financing
It must be understood that Hitler obtained the money he needed by means not even comprehensible today. Vast numbers and classes of people were frightened out of their wits with the looming Communization from the East, frightened by revolutionary "Soviets" in different cities and provinces of Germany who had unleashed civil war-like conditions, where houses of opponents were burned and people were beaten and shot to death. In Munich, crazed Jewish intellectuals seized dozens of aristocratic and upper crust hostages and shot them in cold blood, when their demands were not met.
There were millions - almost 15 million - totally or partially unemployed Germans, most of them with solid skills, training and army discipline instilled in them. They were the unpaid political soldiers and army of Adolf Hitler, with which he put an end to the corruption, decline and despair - and came to power legally. Bolshevism and Bolsheviks, with all their attendant brutality, acted like shills or cowboys to drive the German populace, rich and poor, into Hitler's corral. They, in turn, financed his party and election campaigns.
Early financing came from the pockets of the founders, from idealistic small shop keepers etc.; later from attendees at speeches and rallies where buckets were passed around for collections. NOTE: Also read up on German industrialists financing of the NSDAP.
Now, the "Zundliste" isn't exactly what one might consider mainstream. However, the above are paraphrased excerpts in English from Dr. Georg Franz-Willig's three books on the origins of WWII from a German academic's perspective. Dr. Willig authored the "Trilogie zur Entstehungs und Frühgeschichte der Hitlerbewegung" or "Trilogy of the Development and Early History of the Hitler Movement." I've previously read portions of the German version. Do a search, if you prefer, on Herr Doktor Willig and you'll discover he had considerable knowledge of the situation.
In conclusion, what I am saying with great conviction, is that Chapter 2 of the linked "book" is propaganda expressed through the eyes of someone who has an agenda and couples this specific agenda with misrepresentation of facts. I've not bothered to read the rest, nor do I plan to.
It must be understood that Hitler obtained the money he needed by means not even comprehensible today. Vast numbers and classes of people were frightened out of their wits with the looming Communization from the East, frightened by revolutionary "Soviets" in different cities and provinces of Germany who had unleashed civil war-like conditions, where houses of opponents were burned and people were beaten and shot to death. In Munich, crazed Jewish intellectuals seized dozens of aristocratic and upper crust hostages and shot them in cold blood, when their demands were not met.
There were millions - almost 15 million - totally or partially unemployed Germans, most of them with solid skills, training and army discipline instilled in them. They were the unpaid political soldiers and army of Adolf Hitler, with which he put an end to the corruption, decline and despair - and came to power legally. Bolshevism and Bolsheviks, with all their attendant brutality, acted like shills or cowboys to drive the German populace, rich and poor, into Hitler's corral. They, in turn, financed his party and election campaigns.
Early financing came from the pockets of the founders, from idealistic small shop keepers etc.; later from attendees at speeches and rallies where buckets were passed around for collections. NOTE: Also read up on German industrialists financing of the NSDAP.
Now, the "Zundliste" isn't exactly what one might consider mainstream. However, the above are paraphrased excerpts in English from Dr. Georg Franz-Willig's three books on the origins of WWII from a German academic's perspective. Dr. Willig authored the "Trilogie zur Entstehungs und Frühgeschichte der Hitlerbewegung" or "Trilogy of the Development and Early History of the Hitler Movement." I've previously read portions of the German version. Do a search, if you prefer, on Herr Doktor Willig and you'll discover he had considerable knowledge of the situation.
In conclusion, what I am saying with great conviction, is that Chapter 2 of the linked "book" is propaganda expressed through the eyes of someone who has an agenda and couples this specific agenda with misrepresentation of facts. I've not bothered to read the rest, nor do I plan to.
KAMAZON
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Anyone who tells you 'Hitler saved Germany' is lying or talking out of their ass. Hitler forced Slave Labor and killed the industrial force. Germany had a smaller industrial force in 1942-1944 than they did during the first world war! Hitler ran on virtual slave labor, that's it. Show me something real that refutes chapter 2.
I already have refuted Chapter 2. See my post above. It starts with "From just a quick glance". I caught the author in a lie - plain and simple.
The statement: "President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany." was made by the author. I countered with an argument, as well as introduced authoritative, academic substantiation from at least 2 sources that the author is FOS regarding this statement.
KAMAZON
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The article you posted refuted NOTHING about Presscott Bushes bank funding "Thyssin Steel", (the biggest Nazi war company), nor did your link refute anything about Presscott Bushes bank being shut down for trading with the enemy pact. All your link showed, is someone saying 'no no, they weren't funding the Nazis. I swear'. Let's get real, we are in a national crisis here.
KAMAZON
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We are in a national crisis because Prescott Bush allegedly helped fund the Nazis? Talking about getting real.......
I didn't say that, I merely said "We are in a national crisis", which is true. There is no 'allegedly' about it, Presscott Bushes bank was shut down for funding "Thyssin Steel". Now, a group of fascists surrounding the president are starting a illegal imperial war of aggression against sovergn nation states based on frauds and lies.
*Sigh* Of course I did not refute the Thyssen Stahl garbage because it is so inconsequential that is has little bearing on the situation. However the statement "President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany" has been totally and completely refuted. Hitler was not, repeat NOT, financed by the Bush family. Hitler was financed by his own countrymen.
However, since you insist on a link:
Hitler made a concerted effort to woo industrialists and financiers in western Germany in a speech to that region's leading industrial magnates at the Industry Club in Duesseldorf in January 1932. He posed as the defender of their economic well-being who would destroy the Communists and establish an authoritarian government under which big business could thrive. Although Hitler did receive some money from a few big businessmen before 1933, only a minority of large industrialists supported the Nazis. Smaller businessmen at local levels accounted for considerably more contributions. Self-financing through membership dues, initiation fees, and sale of newspapers remained an important source of the party's income.
Professor Gerhard Rempel, Western New England College
Would you care for more proof to further refute the ridiculous statement "President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany"?
The only "national crisis" is one of blatant misinformation by the Bush bashers. The book is garbage.
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KAMAZON
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You are playing a funny game here, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I will keep this very simple for you. I don't care if people worked with German Businessmen. I do care that Presscott Bush funded THE MAIN NAZI WAR MACHINE that mined over half the steel, iron, copper, synthetic rubber and synthetic coal well into the war in 1942 when FDR saw as a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY, to shut them down. Therefore, since you can't refute this, don't tell me 'this is irrelevent' when it is the main focus of Germanys war drive.
KAMAZON
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Those people were FORCED to fund the Nazi party with 'voluntary' donations backed by machinegun toting SS men. The fact is, Hitlers main money man, Hjalmar Schacht was getting money from Wallstreet based financeers and the bank of england, through the head of Bank of England, Mr. Montegue Norman. As soon as hitler got into power, Germany got immediate debt relief by the western bankers as well. How could you possibly be seroius, when you say you don't care the Bushes were funding Thyssin Steel, where most of the german war drive that devistated Europe came from Thyssin Steel?
KAMAZON
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I read your links, perhaps you would like to tell me where you can refute Presscott Bush was *NOT* funding Thyssin Steel through his bank which was shut down under the 'trading with the enemy pact', or perhaps you can show me how Thyssin Steel was NOT a major Nazi war industrial company. I would love to hear any evidence you have on these critical points.
Kamazon
They have no way to refute the facts other than personal attacks and a mantra of "read what I already posted" - none of which refutes the fact that the Harrimans and Prescott funded the Nazis both before and after WWII. Their enterprise was CLOSED UNDER THE TRADING WITH THE ENEMIES ACT!
What part of trading with the enemy don't these people understand.
And how can they miss the connection between the Bush family and the Carlyle Group. Former heads of state making billions off of war. Profiteering has ALWAYS been the Bush MO.
Now we have a band of NAZIS, the neocons, telling Bush to wage war against sovereign nations under FALSE PRETENCES. Lying about a threat to our national security in order to start a war that members of the Bush FAMILY AND ADMINISTRATION ARE PROFITING FROM.
Kamazon - it's no use. Only time will tell and by then, as the world learned with the first batch of Nazis we had to deal with, it's too late.
Maybe this is what Bush meant by "The New World Order."
Zeig Heil, mine Fuhrer BUSH!
Kamazon
They have no way to refute the facts other than personal attacks and a mantra of "read what I already posted" - none of which refutes the fact that the Harrimans and Prescott funded the Nazis both before and during WWII. Their enterprise was CLOSED UNDER THE TRADING WITH THE ENEMIES ACT!
What part of trading with the enemy don't these people understand.
And how can they miss the connection between the Bush family and the Carlyle Group. Former heads of state making billions off of war. Profiteering has ALWAYS been the Bush MO.
Now we have a band of NAZIS, the neocons, telling Bush to wage war against sovereign nations under FALSE PRETENCES. Lying about a threat to our national security in order to start a war that members of the Bush FAMILY AND ADMINISTRATION ARE PROFITING FROM.
Kamazon - it's no use. Only time will tell and by then, as the world learned with the first batch of Nazis we had to deal with, it's too late.
Maybe this is what Bush meant by "The New World Order."
Zeig Heil, mine Fuhrer BUSH!
KAMAZON
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Well unlike the Germans in 1933, we CAN stop this NOW. IF we impeach "Dirty Dick" Cheney, this entire neo-nazi 'straussian' crowd is going to go, and LaRouche can be president! Check out: www.larouchein2004.com
How could these people be "FORCED" to fund the Nazi party when it wasn't even the largest party in Germany until 1932? HTF did the NSDAP become so voluntarily large? <Dr. McCoy>My God Man!</Dr. McCoy> Stop trying to rewrite history by injecting a load of revisionist garbage. Paul von Hindenburg was in power as President until 1934. Kurt von Schleicher was German chancellor until 1933. Hitler did not assume the chancellory until von Schleicher resigned. Hitler had him murdered during "The Night of the Long Knives" in 1934.
Hjalmar Schacht is also grossly misrepresented in this sorry excuse for a "book". Schacht was the Reichswirtschaftsminister or Reich Economic Minister.
On Fritz Thyssen and his donations, from the "book": The credit was about 250-300,000 [gold] marks--about the sum I had given before
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The overall total of Thyssen's political donations and loans to the Nazis was well over a million dollars, including funds he raised from others--in a period of terrible money shortage in Germany.
Big deal! Want to know more about the real story or are you scared of a few academic references? Various statements on the NSDAP finances and Thyssen.
" Fritz Thyssen, I Paid Hitler, The history of this book was the object of detailed discussions before the German Spruchkammer in the denazification trail of Thyssen. It appeared from these documents that Reves's publication was based on direct dictation by, and also on informal discussions with, Thyssen, which took place in 1940 in the short period that Thyssen after his clash with Hitler spent in France where the German armies caught up with him. Thyssen's hasty way of talking, his anxiety to spill everything at once, and his unforeseen capture by the Germans before he could revise Reves's manuscript seem to account for certain incongruities and inconsistencies in the book. Apparently Thyssen's statements about the payments he made to Hitler (which he later tried to correct) were preliminary guesses that he might have intended to verify...............................A donation by Fritz Thyssen in 1923 remained an isolated fact....... Compared to the indebtedness of the party which by 1933 rose to 70-90 million Reichsmarks, these payments [from Kirdorf] were only a drop in the bucket. "
Source: Adolf Hitler and German Heavy Industry, 1931-1933, by George W. F. Hallgarten The Journal of Economic History, 1952
Go to your local library for JSTOR access to this article. Hmmmm, now if the authors make such a big deal about Thyssen then why is there no reference to him running off to France? How could a party that was at least 70 million RM in debt profit so much from Thyssen?
This chapter of the book is selective, rhetorical garbage - period.
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KAMAZON
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I like how you try to show that Fritz Thyssin (Author of "I funded Hitler" and head of "Thyssin Steel") supposidly didn't FUND hitler that much. However, if you read ANY of my arguments, I have repeatedly stated Thyssin Steel was the largest WAR COMPANY WHICH PRODUCED THE NAZI WAR MACHINES AND STEEL, SYNTH. RUBBER AND OIL, IRON, PIG IRON, and so fourth. ANYONE funding Thyssin Steel was directly funding the Nazi war drive. Show me that Thyssin steel was NOT one of the largest German war companies during the power of the Nazis, and in 1942, when they were shut down. Stop playing these stupid games and trying ot dance aroudn the point that Presscott Bush was shut down for funding the largest nazi war company in Germany.
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Emphasis again, that all my points have been Thyssin Steel was the largest PRODUCER of Nazi War Machines, not FUNDER. You can throw money at american GIs all you want, but Thyssin Steel produced the hard steel, iron, copper, etc. that the Nazis USED TO KILL AMERICAN GIs!!! HOW DARE YOU make light of this.
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Emphasis again, that all my points have been Thyssin Steel was the largest PRODUCER of Nazi War Machines, not FUNDER. You can throw money at american GIs all you want, but Thyssin Steel produced the hard steel, iron, copper, etc. that the Nazis USED TO KILL AMERICAN GIs!!! HOW DARE YOU make light of this.
Man, I'm laughing so hard at all of this right now. Let's see...... Fritz Thyssen runs away to France. The Wehrmacht captures him and puts him in a concentration camp in 1940. A ghostwriter puts out the book "I Paid Hitler" in 1942. Meanwhile, the Nazis took over Thyssen and began operating it themselves as a state-run organization. Hjalmar Schacht quits the NSDAP in 1939 and is imprisoned in a concentration camp in 1944. And oh, by the way, Thyssen wasn't the only German steel concern producing armaments for the Wehrmacht during WWII. Look up Krupp Steel and become more enlightened.
For further proof of other German industrial concerns making significant contributions to the war effort, then look up names like IG Farben, Hoechst, Krupp. Hell, we put old man Krupp in prison after the Nürnberg trials. But old man Thyssen? Nah, we kept him under house arrest in the Taunus region.
There is a REAL history out there beyond this garbage of a book.
KAMAZON
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Like I ALWAYS SAID in ALL my posts, Presscott Bushes bank was shut down in 1942, not 1940 or 1939, but 1942 for funding Thyssin Steel. I didn't say his funded fritz thyssin, i didn't say thyssin didn't flee, i said Bushes bank was shut down in 1942 for funding THYSSIN STEEL.
Thank you. You just proved my point. The NAZIS were running the bank while Bush was funding it. Not Fritz Thyssin, but the NAZI part itself.
Hjalmar Schacht is released once, to run the Reischbank. He was the initial money man between Montegue Norman (Head of the Bank of England) and other Western Nazi backers.
I didn't say Thyssin Steel was the ONLY one, but a MAJOR one. A HUGE one. About 50% of the steel, Iron, and so fourth.
By your own admission, Thyssin didn't even run the factories and plants when Bush was shut down for STILL funding the Nazis in 1942. According to you, Thyssin wasn't even in charge of the factories when the Bushes and Harrimans were funding "Thyssin Steel", but instead, the company was ran directly by THE NAZI PARTY. THE NAZI PARTY DIRECTLY RAN THE COMPANY "THYSSIN STEEL" WHEN BUSHES BANK WAS SHUT DOWN FOR FUNDING "THYSSIN STEEL". Therefore, if by your own admission, if the Nazis were running it when bush was funding it, WHO was bush funding? Fritz Thyssin, or the people who siezed his plants, the Nazi party?
You STILL have not refuted the 2 origional points I made earlier:
1.) perhaps you would like to tell me where you can refute Presscott Bush was *NOT* funding Thyssin Steel through his bank which was shut down under the 'trading with the enemy pact',
2.) or perhaps you can show me how Thyssin Steel was NOT a major Nazi war industrial company. I would love to hear any evidence you have on these critical points.
You only proved Thyssin Steel was not the ONLY Nazi war drive company that was killing American GIs. Why are you a Nazi appologist? Why do you try to defend the actions of people who were killing your grandparents from withen the USA itself? Are you so in love with Bush Jr. that his grandpa could have possibly never ever done anything bad? Again, I wait for you to refute these 2 points WHICH YOU NEVER REFUTED. Thank You.
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Hjalmar Schacht is released once, to run the Reischbank. He was the initial money man between Montegue Norman (Head of the Bank of England) and other Western Nazi backers.
I didn't say Thyssin Steel was the ONLY one, but a MAJOR one. A HUGE one. About 50% of the steel, Iron, and so fourth.
By your own admission, Thyssin didn't even run the factories and plants when Bush was shut down for STILL funding the Nazis in 1942. According to you, Thyssin wasn't even in charge of the factories when the Bushes and Harrimans were funding "Thyssin Steel", but instead, the company was ran directly by THE NAZI PARTY. THE NAZI PARTY DIRECTLY RAN THE COMPANY "THYSSIN STEEL" WHEN BUSHES BANK WAS SHUT DOWN FOR FUNDING "THYSSIN STEEL". Therefore, if by your own admission, if the Nazis were running it when bush was funding it, WHO was bush funding? Fritz Thyssin, or the people who siezed his plants, the Nazi party?
You STILL have not refuted the 2 origional points I made earlier:
1.) perhaps you would like to tell me where you can refute Presscott Bush was *NOT* funding Thyssin Steel through his bank which was shut down under the 'trading with the enemy pact',
2.) or perhaps you can show me how Thyssin Steel was NOT a major Nazi war industrial company. I would love to hear any evidence you have on these critical points.
You only proved Thyssin Steel was not the ONLY Nazi war drive company that was killing American GIs. Why are you a Nazi appologist? Why do you try to defend the actions of people who were killing your grandparents from withen the USA itself? Are you so in love with Bush Jr. that his grandpa could have possibly never ever done anything bad? Again, I wait for you to refute these 2 points WHICH YOU NEVER REFUTED. Thank You.[/quote]
Here are a couple of tidbits about you r beloved book......
The most frequently cited and circulated source of Bush-Nazi investigations/conspiranoia, George Bush-The Unauthorized Biography (a biography of George Herbert Walker Bush) by Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, published in 1992, while well-documented, is also the most suspect. The problem is that Tarpley and Chaitkin are colleagues of the political cult leader Lyndon LaRouche. Not surprisingly, they insist on overlaying otherwise solidly researched data with wildly speculative interpretations. The book, originally published by LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review, though "out of print," is ubiquitous on the web, and freely used and quoted by Bush conspiranoia buffs of all persuasions.
Unfortunately, not content with solid muckracking, Tarpley and Chaitkin insist on super-imposing their pet (entertaining but unsubstantiated, not to mention off-the-wall) conspiracy theory of US history, inspired by Lyndon LaRouche, leader of a radical left/right, right/left cult with so many political incarnations and reincarnations, it's spawned its own mini-industry of critic/conspiranoiaists. As a highbrow conspiracy theorist?s theorist, LaRouche puts poor John Birch and Bo Gritz not to mention Tom Clancy -- to shame. Indeed there are those who think posterity may yet judge him the grandest historical fictioneer of this era, surpassing Pynchon, Vidal, and DeLillo. His theory, as advanced by Tarpley and Chaitkin, involves linking the Bushes, Harrimans, and much, if not all, of the American elite to a several century old plot for world subjugation by a secret British-American cabal steeped in arcane lore, drug smuggling and pagan ritual. They attempt to trace the roots of this conspiracy to the collusion of British financiers and pro-Brit American Tories during the Revolutionary War and follow its machinations through two centuries of intrigue.
Read more here
KAMAZON
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Here are a couple of tidbits about you r beloved book......
*insert lame slander job from some website. If I make a website and put stuff in it, it must be true*
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You are not REFUTING MY 2 POINTS I ALWAYS ASK YOU TO REFUTE which prove you are full of sh*t in your argument. Here they are again:
1.) perhaps you would like to tell me where you can refute Presscott Bush was *NOT* funding Thyssin Steel through his bank which was shut down under the 'trading with the enemy pact',
2.) or perhaps you can show me how Thyssin Steel was NOT a major Nazi war industrial company. I would love to hear any evidence you have on these critical points.
Oh and someone wrote a subjective slanderjob on some website that 'larouche is a nut, so don't listen to this book'. Ok then, if the poitns i'm making are lies, then you should have NO PROBLEM refuting them. The reason you do not refute them, is because you cannot refute them, and thus bring up a shoddy slander job instead. You do not refute them as they are NOT lies, and you CANNOT refute them. I still await your answer. Telling me 'some website says LaRouche is crazy' doesn't mean Bush was not shut down for funding the nazi party through thyssin steel money, by your own admission, thyssin steel was ran by the nazis when Presscott Bush was funding them.
Oh brother. This gets thicker and thicker, doesn't it?
Here are the FACTS.
1. Fritz Thyssen leaves Germany for France in 1939 because of his disagreement with Hitler over the "Pact of Steel" with Stalin as well as the persecution of the Jews and anti-Catholicism. The Germans take over his company in 1939 and strip him of his citizenship. So, Thyssen is totally out of the picture from 1939 to 1942. So if we go by your assertion that "Bushes bank was shut down in 1942 for funding THYSSIN STEEL", then there was a three year period in which Thyssen himself had absolutely nothing to do with it. Furthermore, from the lame book that you so zealously defend, the following statement comes out:
After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output: The figures are followed up by footnote number 8. Footnote number 8 states: "Table of Vereinigte Stahlwerke output, figures are percent of German total as of 1938".
In conclusion, what the footnote is really saying is that the author's figures are from 1938 and NOT for the entire war. Whoaaa, another flag goes up regarding validity. Can't you see how the author bends the truth?
2. Hjalmar Schacht: Find me an authoritative link about "Hjalmar Schacht is released once, to run the Reischbank". Hjalmar Schacht, according to modern German sources, only ran the Reichsbank in 1933.
3. I didn't say Thyssin Steel was the ONLY one, but a MAJOR one. A HUGE one. About 50% of the steel, Iron, and so fourth. And you are using 1938 figures while Thyssen was still running company. The book also uses 1938 figures which you obviously gleaned from there.
Here are the FACTS.
1. Fritz Thyssen leaves Germany for France in 1939 because of his disagreement with Hitler over the "Pact of Steel" with Stalin as well as the persecution of the Jews and anti-Catholicism. The Germans take over his company in 1939 and strip him of his citizenship. So, Thyssen is totally out of the picture from 1939 to 1942. So if we go by your assertion that "Bushes bank was shut down in 1942 for funding THYSSIN STEEL", then there was a three year period in which Thyssen himself had absolutely nothing to do with it. Furthermore, from the lame book that you so zealously defend, the following statement comes out:
After the war, Congressional investigators probed the Thyssen interests, Union Banking Corp. and related Nazi units. The investigation showed that the Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following approximate proportions of total German national output: The figures are followed up by footnote number 8. Footnote number 8 states: "Table of Vereinigte Stahlwerke output, figures are percent of German total as of 1938".
In conclusion, what the footnote is really saying is that the author's figures are from 1938 and NOT for the entire war. Whoaaa, another flag goes up regarding validity. Can't you see how the author bends the truth?
2. Hjalmar Schacht: Find me an authoritative link about "Hjalmar Schacht is released once, to run the Reischbank". Hjalmar Schacht, according to modern German sources, only ran the Reichsbank in 1933.
3. I didn't say Thyssin Steel was the ONLY one, but a MAJOR one. A HUGE one. About 50% of the steel, Iron, and so fourth. And you are using 1938 figures while Thyssen was still running company. The book also uses 1938 figures which you obviously gleaned from there.
Show me an authoritative source other than this bogus book claiming "Bush funded Thyssin Steel". Also show me anywhere IN the book where UBC bank was funding Thyssen from 1939-1942.
Perhaps you would like to prove to me when Prescott Bush WAS funding Thyssen AFTER 1939. The "book" conveniently makes no mention of this. Face it, you have no proof that UBC bank funded Thyssen after 1939 when hostilities commenced.
This fact I cannot refute. However, Thyssen was clearly not "largest WAR COMPANY WHICH PRODUCED THE NAZI WAR MACHINES AND STEEL, SYNTH. RUBBER AND OIL, IRON, PIG IRON," as you suggest in the other post.
KAMAZON
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Even if I said Thyssin steel was the largest, but turns out to maybe be the 2nd largest, actually means jack sh*t. They still produced around 50% of Iron, steel, copper, and so fourth. Therefore, unless there was only 1 more company (which you have named numerous) that mined and created these, it would still be the largest too.
Bushes bank was shut down in 1942 under the 'trading with the enemy pact', not 1939 before the war started, which would have still been bad. The executive order to shut them down is available in the library of congress where I have seen a copy of it myself. The fact that the bank was shut down AFTER 1939 for 'trading with the enemy pact' which was when the Nazi party had taken it over, is damning enough as it is. So far, the only refutement you have given me is that "some website says larouche is a nut". Woop de doo. I'll make a website saying you are a nut. Does that mean I'm right?
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