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Genocide in Congo is allowed to continue

Skyclad1uhm1

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/wor.../23/1195753310737.html

Attackers are now identifiable by their manner of attack: one group, after raping the woman or girl, inserts the barrel of a gun into her vagina and shoots, thus destroying her vagina, bladder, rectum and causing massive blood loss.

Something needs to be done there...

Preferably a large army killing every single man carrying a weapon, and giving all the weapons to the women.

Edit: Disgust emoticon doesn't work.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Animals that do this to a woman deserve extinction.

Only question is who is going to give it to them?
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
^ Hopefully someone, somewhere, soon.
Not likely. This savagery has been going on in Africa for quite some time. Really acts that you could only think of on an almost comedic level if you had to think of something truly knarly for a Saw-type horror flick. I believe that those who commit them are a different caliber of person from most of us. Forcing boys to shoot their family, rape their mother, taking bets on a raped woman's child's fetus and hacking it from her womb to seeing if you got the sex right, putting nasty acts on slips of paper in a pile (cut off lips, cut off hands, etc.) and making a victim pick his sentence from the pile, using human entrails as ropes at roadblocks, it goes on and on. The atrocities in Africa are really well beyond what most people believe they could be, far beyond a comparitively "benign" slaughter and gang rape seen the world over.

Some parts of Africa are truly forsaken and you should count your lucky blessings you don't have to live there or bring up a family in that sh*thole of a continent.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: maluckey
And what was the U.N. fixated on instead?

The whole 'Western' world is currently fixated on oil and terrorism. Human rights are only a priority if it can be used as reason to pursue the quest for natural resources.
 

ayabe

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China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.
 

K1052

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Maybe the Belgians would be so kind as to send some troops...
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: K1052
Maybe the Belgians would be so kind as to send some troops...

Just send them more guns, they'll figure it out eventually.
 

BeauJangles

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Same old song and dance of too little, too late. In a year and half we'll be hearing from some government spokesman about how more should have been done. In five years, the top US officials will all write in their memoirs that letting the situation in [insert African country here] deteriorate was the biggest mistake they made while in power.

Then we'll try to talk about how much we learned from this experience and how we'll never let anybody suffer the same fate again.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Same old song and dance of too little, too late. In a year and half we'll be hearing from some government spokesman about how more should have been done. In five years, the top US officials will all write in their memoirs that letting the situation in [insert African country here] deteriorate was the biggest mistake they made while in power.

Then we'll try to talk about how much we learned from this experience and how we'll never let anybody suffer the same fate again.

And all the while I'll be here drinking my gingerbread latte and not giving a damn.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.

ORLY? Then why do we send money and supplies there? Why do American billionaires choose to give their money there? Why did we just send troops to Darfur?

Africa is a mess we shouldnt be in. We talk about how many think democracy in the middle east is unlikely, I;ll tell yout his. In many African countries the prospect of freedom or any resemblance of it is about as likely as 100 people winning powerball on the same drawing. We need to get out and stay out.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.

ORLY? Then why do we send money and supplies there? Why do American billionaires choose to give their money there? Why did we just send troops to Darfur?

Africa is a mess we shouldnt be in. We talk about how many think democracy in the middle east is unlikely, I;ll tell yout his. In many African countries the prospect of freedom or any resemblance of it is about as likely as 100 people winning powerball on the same drawing. We need to get out and stay out.

Mainly charity goes to Africa. They don't get nearly the US foreign aid that other regions do. And most of what they do get is in AIDS research money.

I agree, Africa fails at democracy, every time. Corruption and genocide comes to surface extremely quickly every time they're allowed governance over their own affairs.

For the record, I think they were much better off under 20th century colonialism.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.

ORLY? Then why do we send money and supplies there? Why do American billionaires choose to give their money there? Why did we just send troops to Darfur?

Africa is a mess we shouldnt be in. We talk about how many think democracy in the middle east is unlikely, I;ll tell yout his. In many African countries the prospect of freedom or any resemblance of it is about as likely as 100 people winning powerball on the same drawing. We need to get out and stay out.

Mainly charity goes to Africa. They don't get nearly the US foreign aid that other regions do. And most of what they do get is in AIDS research money.

I agree, Africa fails at democracy, every time. Corruption and genocide comes to surface extremely quickly every time they're allowed governance over their own affairs.

For the record, I think they were much better off under 20th century colonialism.

Actually 19th and 20th century colonialism are pretty much to blame for everyone one of Africa's problems. The Brits are terrible at societal engineering and they made the same mistakes in Africa that they made in the ME.

 

Jeff7

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I really hope no alien civilization finds us, for at least another 10,000 years. If they do, I think they'll just exterminate us all to end the horrors. We'd look to them like nothing more than primitive beastly creatures, torturing each other for fun.

I can't even understand how people can do this to others of their own species, especially seeing as we are a sentient species, capable of empathy.

"What we are is semi-civilized beasts, with baseball caps and automatic weapons." - George Carlin
"Barely out of the jungle," as he also said. For tens of thousands of years, we've had these big brains. Tens of thousands of years, and this is the level of progress we see. It's a goddamn waste of intelligence.
 

teclis1023

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I wish we would go in to the Sudan and go in to the Congo and do...something

Of course, because the Sudan is an Islamic country, we would be accused of all sorts of issues, even though there doesn't seem to be very much Muslim protest against the genocides taking place there.

Funny how things work.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.

what
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
I really hope no alien civilization finds us, for at least another 10,000 years. If they do, I think they'll just exterminate us all to end the horrors. We'd look to them like nothing more than primitive beastly creatures, torturing each other for fun.

I can't even understand how people can do this to others of their own species, especially seeing as we are a sentient species, capable of empathy.

"What we are is semi-civilized beasts, with baseball caps and automatic weapons." - George Carlin
"Barely out of the jungle," as he also said. For tens of thousands of years, we've had these big brains. Tens of thousands of years, and this is the level of progress we see. It's a goddamn waste of intelligence.

Why must "progress" include completely getting along and singing kumbaya with others whom we disagree? Read about the Tower of Babel. Although we are the same species, we are not the same. Nor will we be. Nor should we be.

If you or others believe it's even remotely possible, you have FAR more faith in mankind than I do.

But I guess we all have our opinions.
 

chucky2

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Look, the "rest of the world" thinks the US is 'imperialistic', that we 'oppress' the rest of the world with our views, that we 'cram' them down the "rest of the worlds" throats.

The US should be making nightly news showing the suffering in Sudan and blaming it solely on the UN's (minus the US, since we're such sh1tty people) lack of any effort there.

The last I'd looked, the F'ing UN - which means the rest of the world - couldn't come up with 24 helicopters.

Which means, in reality, the "rest of the world" is a bunch of people who talk about action, but pssy out when it actually comes to getting it done. They like to whine and b1tch about "imperialistic" US, but when it comes down to it, they don't do sh1t themselves.

Darfur is the "rest of the worlds" mirror, funny how the US bashers won't look in it...

Chuck
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.

what

Let Africa implode. Just liberate the nukes from SA before it goes down in the chaos.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ayabe
China runs the show there and they won't allow us to intervene via the UN.

Our only other option is to just send in the Marines, unfortunately we don't have any to send.

Well, also consider that Americans aren't interested in helping Africa. Let them rot.

what

Let Africa implode. Just liberate the nukes from SA before it goes down in the chaos.

Can we apply this logic to the Middle East?
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: chucky2
Look, the "rest of the world" thinks the US is 'imperialistic', that we 'oppress' the rest of the world with our views, that we 'cram' them down the "rest of the worlds" throats.

The US should be making nightly news showing the suffering in Sudan and blaming it solely on the UN's (minus the US, since we're such sh1tty people) lack of any effort there.

The last I'd looked, the F'ing UN - which means the rest of the world - couldn't come up with 24 helicopters.

Which means, in reality, the "rest of the world" is a bunch of people who talk about action, but pssy out when it actually comes to getting it done. They like to whine and b1tch about "imperialistic" US, but when it comes down to it, they don't do sh1t themselves.

Darfur is the "rest of the worlds" mirror, funny how the US bashers won't look in it...

Chuck

Interesting point...and valid. Something else that came to mind as I read it...not only does the rest of the world condemn our actions, or INaction in some cases, they turn around and condemn us ALSO if we dont do THEIR bidding, or if we dont accept THEIR plan for the world. Pretty interesting.

If the US was as much as an imperialistic country as some, including here, say, the US of A would be a far bigger country. We could literally forcefully take over and crush any military and its government we wanted with only a handful of exceptions...and integrate them. Instead, we try and set up governments closely modeled after ours (the most economically sucessful in the world), so they may know prosperity as well.

 

teclis1023

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Why must "progress" include completely getting along and singing kumbaya with others whom we disagree? Read about the Tower of Babel. Although we are the same species, we are not the same. Nor will we be. Nor should we be.

If you or others believe it's even remotely possible, you have FAR more faith in mankind than I do.

But I guess we all have our opinions.

I think you need to re-read the story of the Tower of Babel - it's a story of massive triumph for the human people - they came together to achieve something so fantastic that it threatened the divine. According to the story, human difference isn't innate - it was imposed upon us by the divine, and is largely based in linguistic disparity.

And I'm not sure who's talking about singing Kumbaya. I think we're actually talking about stopping women from being gang-raped and then brutally murdered. A bit of a difference there. I am not out to be the World Police, but as a strong nation we need to defend those who can't defend themselves, no matter who they are.