Gender Fluidity in Children?

fantolay

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/m...l=1&adxnnlx=1344470436-pR9Zzdpk26S1tdUtP3T9DQ

This is a messed up trend. It is sickening. It actually makes me feel ill.

What is wrong with telling your son, "Thomas you can't wear dressed. I don't care if you cry for the next 6 months, I'm not letting you wear dressed."

Is it that the over-zealous liberal parents of today can't muster up the stuff it takes to tell a 7 year old that?

One thing is for sure, I'm going to tell my son to go into his elementary school class and make fun of the gender screwed up kid in the class. I'm going to tell him, "he is gender screwed-up is what he is."

I'm going to tell him to make fun of the kid, tell him to tease him, get his buddies to tease him. And if I get called in for a parent teacher conference, I'm going to tell the teacher that I support my son and the way he behaves.

Good luck parents of gender screwed up children who choose to let your sons wear dressed to school. Good luck.
 

jagec

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/m...l=1&adxnnlx=1344470436-pR9Zzdpk26S1tdUtP3T9DQ
One thing is for sure, I'm going to tell my son to go into his elementary school class and make fun of the gender screwed up kid in the class. I'm going to tell him, "he is gender screwed-up is what he is."

I'm going to tell him to make fun of the kid, tell him to tease him, get his buddies to tease him. And if I get called in for a parent teacher conference, I'm going to tell the teacher that I support my son and the way he behaves.
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fantolay

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Dude I'm not joking.

As loud as the over-zealous liberal parents are, trust me, many people have the same feelings as I do about this.

And: I want my masculine son to make fun of the pansies in his class. I want him to be a leader, be captain of his sports team, go to a good college...
 

lxskllr

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Trend eh? When's the last time you saw a boy wear a dress; Never? I thought so. Why don't you let people deal with fringe situations the way they choose deal with them. Afraid a boy in a dress will awaken uncomfortable thoughts for you?
 

fantolay

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Please keep your redneck homophobia at home, and keep your redneck child there too.

Hardly a redneck. I live in MA.

And it isn't homophobia. I'm taking my America back.

I shouldn't have to be tolerant of any of this garbage.
 

SMOGZINN

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Hardly a redneck. I live in MA.

And it isn't homophobia. I'm taking my America back.

I shouldn't have to be tolerant of any of this garbage.

I don't care where you live. Your ignorance shows your redneckedness. It is homophobia. You just are not smart enough to understand what that word means.
You are a idiot with delusions of adequacy. We took your America away from you because you are a small minded, mean spirited man-child, and the world can no longer afford to indulge your temper tantrums.
 

bfdd

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I don't care where you live. Your ignorance shows your redneckedness. It is homophobia. You just are not smart enough to understand what that word means.
You are a idiot with delusions of adequacy. We took your America away from you because you are a small minded, mean spirited man-child, and the world can no longer afford to indulge your temper tantrums.

It is definitely not homophobia to think a boy running around in a dress is a panzy ass. I wouldn't even think he was gay, just a stupid little weirdo kid whos parents never set his ass straight. Most kids get like that because their parents never said no and let them be who they wanted to be without any guidance except cartoons and toys. Bet the kid acts like Caleb from the King of the Hill episode too when he's around other kids/adults.
 

Bateluer

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Not seeing any homophobia here. The kid is 7, parents should exercise some discipline at that age. Poor kid will be so messed up in the brain with this nonsense, he'll have years of therapy ahead of him.
 

nonameo

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It's fine if you explain to the kid why wearing a dress all over the place isn't a good idea, but don't go apeshit on him. So what if he likes to wear dresses in his spare time(in private)? Actually, he'll probably outgrow it. I can think of a multitude of things I was interested in when I was little that I don't care about now. You know, like pogs :p

<derail> Anyone remember those bubblegum bigfoot slammers? </derail>
 

MrChad

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Not seeing any homophobia here. The kid is 7, parents should exercise some discipline at that age. Poor kid will be so messed up in the brain with this nonsense, he'll have years of therapy ahead of him.

What discipline? I don't fully understand the phenomenon, but there is lots of evidence that gender and sexuality is more of a spectrum than a choice of two absolutes. Boys can "feel" like they are girls and vice versa, regardless of whether they have XX or XY chromosomes. In some cases, this feeling can be strong enough to lead to transgender behavior or even gender reassignment surgery.

As a parent, I would try to be supportive of my kid to explore his sexuality on his own. I would also try to prepare him and protect him from the backlash he is sure to face from others. Oddly, this seems like it's more a problem for boys than it is for girls, as most people have accepted "tomboy" girls. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to gender roles.

And yes, he may have years of therapy ahead of him, but that's because he lives in a world that has very narrowly defined gender roles and (despite some progress in recent years) little tolerance for those who fall in the middle of the sexuality spectrum. He will constantly have to reconcile how he feels inside versus what society wants him to be.
 

TridenT

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Yeah, it's a bit weird... I wouldn't be as supportive unless my kid can rock that shit. (Like Beiber, I guess?)

One mind bender I read about was a dude who got a sex change, and then got in a lesbian relationship.

Yeah, that shit is weird. I was thinking about that while writing my post (I hadn't seen yours yet).

And kids act weird. If it was my kid I would try to explain that there's some pretty big consequences to doing that shit. Even then, I wouldn't allow it. I'd let them sit and think about it for a long time(months) before I'd ever let them do that. I'd also ask them to ask all their friends and teachers and everyone else what would happen if they wore a dress to school. (If this kid is a male. Girls can pull off guy clothes easily... because they're considered practically gender neutral)
 
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fantolay

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It is definitely not homophobia to think a boy running around in a dress is a panzy ass. I wouldn't even think he was gay, just a stupid little weirdo kid whos parents never set his ass straight. Most kids get like that because their parents never said no and let them be who they wanted to be without any guidance except cartoons and toys. Bet the kid acts like Caleb from the King of the Hill episode too when he's around other kids/adults.

exactly
 

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One mind bender I read about was a dude who got a sex change, and then got in a lesbian relationship.

Lol, that reminds me of cracking up years ago while reading Michael Musto, the flamboyantly gay columnist for the Village Voice, joke-bragging about the lesbian affair he had with Marilyn Monroe. :p
 

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It is definitely not homophobia to think a boy running around in a dress is a panzy ass. I wouldn't even think he was gay, just a stupid little weirdo kid whos parents never set his ass straight. Most kids get like that because their parents never said no and let them be who they wanted to be without any guidance except cartoons and toys. Bet the kid acts like Caleb from the King of the Hill episode too when he's around other kids/adults.

Your ignorance is astounding, and not just because you can't spell "pansy."
 

fantolay

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I'm free to have whatever opinions I want.

I don't have to "tolerate" anything.