GeForce Titan coming end of February

[boxleitnerb]

 

[HurleyBird]

Obvious fake. Look at the 7970 BF3 score. The Watermark is behind the bar.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Obvious fake. Look at the 7970 BF3 score. The Watermark is behind the bar.

Not on my monitor. I don't see it

 

[wand3r3r]

Not on my monitor. I don't see it

I think he's hoping it's fake (not such a turd for the price).

 

[HurleyBird]

Not on my monitor. I don't see it

Look at how the vertical blue line is above the watermark.

On second thought, maybe this isn't supposed to be an official slide and is supposed to be results they got for themselves? In either case the watermark underneath the bar graph is odd.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Look at how the vertical blue line is above the watermark.

On second thought, maybe this isn't supposed to be an official slide and is supposed to be results they got for themselves? In either case the watermark underneath the bar graph is odd.

Where exactly, please point it out.
I can see all the outlines of the watermark letters, every single one of them.

 

[Raghu]

Now, can someone please explain to me how a GPU can 'overclock' the monitor? A 60Hz screen is only going to refresh 60 times per second, unless the actual monitor PCB is overclocked via an EDID override. On the face of it, this sounds like marketing BS, but nonetheless, I'm curious

Monitors receive the display clock from the graphics card. If the chip inside the monitor can work at higher refresh rate then it probably will be fine. Seems like the graphics card can ignore the EDID data from the monitor and send whatever clock signaling it feels like.

 

[Black Octagon]

Monitors receive the display clock from the graphics card. If the chip inside the monitor can work at higher refresh rate then it probably will be fine. Seems like the graphics card can ignore the EDID data from the monitor and send whatever clock signaling it feels like.

Oh ok sure, but regardless of what the graphics card is sending, most regular 60Hz monitors cannot display 80Hz simply because the graphics card says so. Some can report a higher refresh rate without actually displaying it as increased smoothness (e.g. the fake 125Hz Catleap Multis) but AFAIK the only way to get a monitor to display a higher refresh rate than its spec'd refresh rate is to overclock the PCB...something that is currently only possible on 1-2 niche/enthusiast monitors out there

Edit: I look forward to hearing more details about this feature once the NDA lifts in full!

 

[Whitestar127]

I think I'll wait for the official reviews before forming an opinion.

 

[Zevvo]

Finally! Not voltage locked! Time to blow up some VRAMS!

 

[Rvenger]

Well, if I can get one at $899, then count me in I guess. I am a sucker for new hardware. Ill be putting my 7970 and 660 up for sale to recoup hopefully 60% of the cost of the titan.

 

[tviceman]

I think he's hoping it's fake (not such a turd for the price).

The graph doesn't look off from expectations. Relative to a 7970GE:
47% faster in Crysis 2
35% faster in BF3
43% faster in FC3
23% faster in Hitman

How is that at turd? Of those 4 games, 2 are AMD sponsored, and Titan still manages to average 37% faster than the hd7970GE.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Efficiency should also be quite good, despite the large GPU and 6GB VRAM.

 

[wand3r3r]

The graph doesn't look off from expectations. Relative to a 7970GE:
47% faster in Crysis 2
35% faster in BF3
43% faster in FC3
23% faster in Hitman

How is that at turd? Of those 4 games, 2 are AMD sponsored, and Titan still manages to average 37% faster than the hd7970GE.

For the price it's a turd in my book.
I'd like the performance but the price is beyond ridiculous.

200% price, and only 20-50% faster.

Those are the highest places, at lower resolutions than eyefinity it'll probably be less of a difference

 

[USER8000]

The graph doesn't look off from expectations. Relative to a 7970GE:
47% faster in Crysis 2
35% faster in BF3
43% faster in FC3
23% faster in Hitman

How is that at turd? Of those 4 games, 2 are AMD sponsored, and Titan still manages to average 37% faster than the hd7970GE.

Which means the GTX780 and HD8970 are probably not going to be massively behind the Geforce Titan at 1920X1080.

 

[chimaxi83]

The graph doesn't look off from expectations. Relative to a 7970GE:
47% faster in Crysis 2
35% faster in BF3
43% faster in FC3
23% faster in Hitman

How is that at turd? Of those 4 games, 2 are AMD sponsored, and Titan still manages to average 37% faster than the HD7970Ghz, and only asks for more than double the price!

FTFY

It's kind of sad that anyone here thinks these expected numbers are anywhere near in line with the expected price. Defenders will defend, I guess.

The price absolutely makes this a turd. $699 would've been a great starting point, and I would've been in for one. Meh.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

The graph doesn't look off from expectations. Relative to a 7970GE:
47% faster in Crysis 2
35% faster in BF3
43% faster in FC3
23% faster in Hitman

How is that at turd? Of those 4 games, 2 are AMD sponsored, and Titan still manages to average 37% faster than the hd7970GE.

Raise the 7970's OC to around 1100 and Titan looks like an even bigger failure.

Also, I'm speculating, but I'm calling AMD releasing their memory management drivers to spoil the release of titan. 10% increase across the board. Would be epic.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Wonder if AMD will pull off a gtx 460 super oc like Nvidia did? The day of release AMD releases a limited edition 1200mhz 7970 to review against the titan.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Raise the 7970's OC to around 1100 and Titan looks like an even bigger failure.

Also, I'm speculating, but I'm calling AMD releasing their memory management drivers to spoil the release of titan. 10% increase across the board. Would be epic.

Are we comparing stock vs OC cards again? What is it in VC&G with this? It's like a spreading disease...only idiots would do this.

 

[sontin]

Raise the 7970's OC to around 1100 and Titan looks like an even bigger failure.

Also, I'm speculating, but I'm calling AMD releasing their memory management drivers to spoil the release of titan. 10% increase across the board. Would be epic.

Yeah, because nobody will overclock TITAN...
Oh now i get it: nVidia users don't overclock, so that is the reason why we only compare stock nVidia cards to overclocked AMD cards :hmm:

 

[badb0y]

Raise the 7970's OC to around 1100 and Titan looks like an even bigger failure.

Also, I'm speculating, but I'm calling AMD releasing their memory management drivers to spoil the release of titan. 10% increase across the board. Would be epic.

From what we have seen so far it looks to me like Titan is pretty damn good but is a overpriced. I expected it to be around 45% faster and it has gotten pretty close to that number.

Another great thing that came out of those slides is unlocked voltage which will be awesome for overclocking. I wish there is some support for multi-resolution surround gaming because otherwise my PLP setup will be collecting dust in DX11 games.

Yeah, because nobody will overclock TITAN...
Oh now i get it: nVidia users don't overclock, so that is the reason why we only compare stock nVidia cards to overclocked AMD cards :hmm:

To be fair overclocking a GTX 680 doesn't yield much at all but I am hoping Titan will be different.

Wonder if AMD will pull off a gtx 460 super oc like Nvidia did? The day of release AMD releases a limited edition 1200mhz 7970 to review against the titan.

At that performance level I don't think a 1200mhz 7970 will be enough to reach it, it might get close but it won't compete well especially if the 7970 comes maxed out from the factory and the Titan has more OC headroom.

 

[n0x1ous]

To be fair overclocking a GTX 680 doesn't yield much at all but I am hoping Titan will be different.

Primarily due to lack of memory bandwidth. Titan should scale much better while overclocked with the breathing room of the 384 bit bus

 

[Hitman928]

Oh ok sure, but regardless of what the graphics card is sending, most regular 60Hz monitors cannot display 80Hz simply because the graphics card says so. Some can report a higher refresh rate without actually displaying it as increased smoothness (e.g. the fake 125Hz Catleap Multis) but AFAIK the only way to get a monitor to display a higher refresh rate than its spec'd refresh rate is to overclock the PCB...something that is currently only possible on 1-2 niche/enthusiast monitors out there

Edit: I look forward to hearing more details about this feature once the NDA lifts in full!

I think that website is just confused by what the feature is. From what I understand, it just allows adaptive V-sync to be set at 80 fps if you prefer going above 60. Not sure how well it will work as you mentioned, most monitors will still be set at 60Hz meaning tearing will be present which is the whole point of 60 fps in the first place. Maybe there's more to it, we'll have to wait for the official release.

Finally! Not voltage locked! Time to blow up some VRAMS!

I haven't seen anything yet about user controlled voltage adjustments, only boost 2.0 allowing for increasing voltage and then the user being able to set a custom temperature for throttling. I'm not saying it won't have direct voltage control, just that I haven't seen anything confirming it. I would hope that they do on such a limited enthusiast part.

As far as performance goes, the leaks don't look to promising to me for the $$. However, I also don't ever think the top tier products are worth the money. I tend to stick to the mid-range to lower high end products and then get a good model for overclocking.

 

[sontin]

TITAN has nearly the same ratio like GTX680. So you running in the same problem.

 

[badb0y]

Primarily due to lack of memory bandwidth. Titan should scale much better while overclocked with the breathing room of the 384 bit bus

Yep, I expect Titan to be a better overclocker than the GTX 680 because of that.

I think the rumored clocks are rather conservative too, this one might overclock pretty damn well if we get unlocked voltages. I am excited to see the reviews, this things going to be a beast, I can feel it!