GeForce Titan coming end of February

[SirPauly]

Thanks! More focus on improving flexibility with V-sync -- interesting.

 

[SirPauly]

Really enjoy the goodies to improve gaming experiences!

 

[3DVagabond]

Regardless, I would take those K20 results with a grain of salt because they are saying that GK110 is significantly worse than Gk104 in a lot of the results:

http://clbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?config_0=14378297&config_1=11905948

That is interesting. Possibly clock speed is making the biggest difference? I'm sure they have far less samples of K20. Maybe there's something else skewing the results? A few bad outlying results could affect the average more dramatically.

 

[SirPauly]

nVidia isn't fooling around with trying to improve smoothness and allowing flexible tools and features for gamers subjective tastes and tolerances.

 

[SunRe]

CUDA can get closer to the metal and is only optimized for Nvidia GPUS, of course it's going to be faster. AMD's GPUs would run GPGPU faster too if they had a CUDA alternative that only targeted their GPUs.

That being said, while Nvidia gets a moderate speedup from running CUDA code, it's not going to make up for cases where GCN is several times, if not orders of magnitude, faster than Kepler in openCL. At least, that's what seems to be the case in this study:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1005/1005.2581.pdf

Regardless, I would take those K20 results with a grain of salt because they are saying that GK110 is significantly worse than Gk104 in a lot of the results:

http://clbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?config_0=14378297&config_1=11905948

Thanks for the cuda vs opencl paper from d-wave. It's interesting although cuda has came a long way since gtx260.

 

[blackened23]

We were tricked

limited NDA lift on the 19th (pics/specs only), reviews and release on the 21st.

http://www.nordichardware.se/Grafik/nvidia-lanserar-geforce-gtx-titan-den-21-februari.html

 

[HurleyBird]

Thanks for the cuda vs opencl paper from d-wave. It's interesting although cuda has came a long way since gtx260.

Same can be said for OpenCL

 

[Lepton87]

Is it confirmed that NV is only going to release 10k cards for the whole world? If that's true I think it's going to be next to impossible to buy one for its MSRP. That means probably less then 3k for the whole US/EU Some super cars have similar production runs. It's a publicity stunt, nothing else.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

10k world probably means 7-8k for USA alone.

 

[wand3r3r]

Is it confirmed that NV is only going to release 10k cards for the whole world? If that's true I think it's going to be next to impossible to buy one for it's MSRP. That means probably less then 3k for the whole US/EU Some super cars have similar production runs. It's a publicity stunt, nothing else.

At this point it appears to be speculation and attempts to dissect/swallow the pricing, or at least I haven't seen any official confirmation.

This card is the GTX 580 successor, aimed firstly at the professional parallel computing marketplace. They are finally getting some broken parts to sell as slightly cut down cards for the PC gamers.

My personal opinion is that they will be limited in the beginning but as long as they are producing this for the pro market there will be broken chips accumulating and ready to sell to enthusiasts/nvidiots (nvidiots if the price is indeed $900 because who else would buy it).

Random guess 1.
Limited cards, try to create hype so people 'have' to buy it now and not wait. They sell out so they keep trickling them into the market to ensure they all sell and none sit on the shelves too long.

Random guess 2.
Cut down models either sold as Titan(ic) jr (3GB) models or GTX 7XX models.
Maybe the cut down (GTX 570 successors) will be priced at $700 with 3GB. Double the price! Apple should be taking notes if this succeeds.

 

[SirPauly]

They are finally getting some broken parts to sell as slightly cut down cards for the PC gamers.

But this sku may have the same number of cuda cores as the Flagship Tesla K-20X and more than the K-20 -- seems that they're using some cut downs for Tesla.

 

[wand3r3r]

But this sku may have the same number of cuda cores as the Flagship Tesla K-20X and more than the K-20 -- seems that they're using some cut downs for Tesla.

Ok, I thought it was cut down from the tesla models. Need to go recheck the leaked specs.

 

[Lepton87]

10k world probably means 7-8k for USA alone.

What an US-centric view of the world. EU is just as big a market as the USA, not to mention Japan, China, rich Arab countries etc.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

What an US-centric view of the world. EU is just as big a market as the USA, not to mention Japan, China, rich Arab countries etc.

Nvidia is a US company. Of course we get first dibs. USA number 1.

 

[tviceman]

How would reviewers publish Titan's reviews tomorrow if Crysis 3 isn't launching until Tuesday? Wouldn't it make sense to do reviews on February 19th-20th and include C3?

Crysis 3 is gaming evolved now, so the game is promoting AMD by nature. Also, what are the chances AMD has had some face-time with crysis devs to optimize their drivers?

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Most of the sales still happen in USA. India can be called one of the richer Asian countries, especially considering the fact that although the masses are poor, but the number of rich people in India make a huge chunk of population capable of replacing a country itself. Yet, I can guarantee you that for every 1 7970 sold in India, at least 1000 sold in USA.

 

[Lepton87]

Nvidia is a US company. Of course we get first dibs. USA number 1.

Great explanation... Why would they allocate 70-80% of their publicity stunt cards for just a small piece of their market? It does not make any sense at all, not to mention they charge more for their cards in the EU then in the US and that's excluding VAT tax. GTX680 was always more expensive in the EU then 7970.

That's for 2010, I couldn't find any newer data, it's quite eye-opening, isn't it?

Most of the sales still happen in USA.

That's BS.
See above.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

27% revenue from Taiwan is not possible. Not for consumer GeForce products sold in retail. No doubt that chart is fishy.

 

[HurleyBird]

That chart looks like BS

 

[Lepton87]

That chart looks like BS

yeah, they post BS charts on their site.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/citizenship-report-economic-impact.html

Not for consumer GeForce products sold in retail.

They don't publish that information, it's their entire revenue. Still, do you think a mere 7% of their entire revenue would account for most of their GeForce sales? Yeah I know it's the US 330million people must buy more GF cards then the rest 6.7billion

 

[Piroko]

derp, too many posts in too litlle time

 

[Black Octagon]

LOL. That's total revenue, but still, it's quite likely correct. Speak to a Chinese politician, and they'll tell you that Taiwan is part of China. So that's 66% (2/3) of NVIDIA's total revenue coming from the 'Greater Chinese' market.

Taiwan may be a small country but it contributes big-time to the global ICT industries (both Acer and ASUS are Taiwanese brands!), and China is...well, huge.

I am not surprised in the least to see that the American and European markets constitute such a small source of revenue for a hardware company like NVIDIA, regardless of whether it is an 'American' company.

 

[Annisman*]

Yeah, no way people in China are the overwhelming buyers of discrete graphics cards, I'm just not believing it.

 

[blackened23]

More news and slides:

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/graphics-cards/1297972/nvidia-gtx-titan-graphics-card-announced

New stuff:

1) New adaptive vsync. 80fps on a 60hz display for smoothness
2) Voltage control completely overhauled from prior kepler cards
3) Titan has a "temperature target" where you can control the throttle points (maybe? I hope..70C throttle not good)
4) There's a new "temp target" that is tied to the GPUB voltage
5) Performance will indeed be shy of GTX 690, by 10-15%
6) AIB makers have complete control over MSRP. Expect ridiculous prices

 

[Black Octagon]

Nvidia is a US company. Of course we get first dibs. USA number 1.

I certainly hope that is some sort of Texan wit/sarcasm. NVIDIA is a company. Business is not blindly patriotic (at least, successful business isn't)