GeForce Titan coming end of February

[BoFox]

If 4GB was beneficial over 3GB, GTX680 would have won at least 1 benchmark at Legion Hardware. It didn't win even 1. I agree that Titan's memory bandwidth increase is going to be very important.

Here is Xbitlab's review of GTX670 4GB. In all 6 games where 4GB showed a measurable benefit over GTX670 2GB, 670 4GB could not outperform a 3GB 7970 until GTX670 was overclocked, which implies a GPU bottleneck not a VRAM one. That means 4GB is useless and 3GB is the sweet spot because otherwise the 670 4GB would have smoked the 7970 if 3GB VRAM bottleneck showed up.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/evga-geforce-gtx-670-4gb/04_metro.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/evga-geforce-gtx-670-4gb/08_civ5.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/evga-geforce-gtx-670-4gb/09_shog.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/evga-geforce-gtx-670-4gb/11_hr.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/evga-geforce-gtx-670-4gb/12_bat.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/evga-geforce-gtx-670-4gb/15_sniper.png

Titan 3GB for $799 would have been better than Titan 6GB for $899 for games.

Hitman: Absolution does need more than 3GB:

We never expected it, but Hitman: Absolution was the most sensitive game to VRAM capacity in all of our testing. This game, single handedly showed the most advantages with more VRAM, and even showed us that 4GB isn't enough!

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013...670_directcu_ii_4gb_sli_review/3#.USHJvGcrGig

Rejoice, owners of 6GB 7970GE's!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ocre]

Hitman: Absolution does need more than 3GB:


http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013...670_directcu_ii_4gb_sli_review/3#.USHJvGcrGig

no. no you got it wrong. I have read the whole thread and i will have you know.......
You will never need more than the 3gb and a 7970ghz. its official. Anything more than that is a scam.

so but seriously-
are all the top posters in this thread complaining about a card they arent even interested in getting in the first place? I did see a few people who are generally interested, even a few who said they might even buy it. But those post are completely lost in the repeating....................

 

[chimaxi83]

no. no you got it wrong. I have read the whole thread and i will have you know.......
You will never need more than the 3gb and a 7970ghz. its official. Anything more than that is a scam.

so are all the top posters in this thread complaining about a card they arent even interested in? I did see a few people who are generally interested, even a few who said they might even buy it. But those post are completely lost in the repeating....................

So you decided to add to it with a worthless contribution of sarcasm?

 

[BoFox]

Quantity: 7 available

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$1,600 lulz

I reported it to ebay as a prohibited embargo item, haha!

.....

BECAUSE THE PICS ARE BS - copied off chiphell!

 

[Jaydip]

You don't have to make any special CPU provisions. At 1080/1200P, this would be no different than testing a GTX690. At way higher resolutions/triple-monitor gaming, even GTX690 Quad-SLI system is still GPU bottlenecked in demanding titles. Whoever is getting more than 2 Titans is already running LGA 2011 with at least a 3930 OC. It would be highly doubtful for any review to test Titan in Tri-SLI on anything other than LGA 2011 with an overclocked 6-core i7. And if you are CPU limited, there is nothing you can do anyway since Haswell is still months away.

GK110 like any HPC part depends very much on higher IPC, so a 3770K would be probably more beneficial than a 3930 oc.Now a days where console ports are rampant many games are cpu bottlenecked.

 

[BoFox]

no. no you got it wrong. I have read the whole thread and i will have you know.......
You will never need more than the 3gb and a 7970ghz. its official. Anything more than that is a scam.

so are all the top posters in this thread complaining about a card they arent even interested in getting in the first place? I did see a few people who are generally interested, even a few who said they might even buy it. But those post are completely lost in the repeating....................

I wanna sell my car and buy 3 of those! :biggrin:

At least there's a 6GB version of 7970GE to keep AMD loyalists "cool" in the face of 6GB Titans..

 

[BallaTheFeared]

<3 BoFox


Put me down for 350 on the titan VP

 

[ocre]

So you decided to add to it with a worthless contribution of sarcasm?

it was a joke.

but i kinda was hoping we could move past how useless any card more than 3gb is.

 

[RussianSensation]

no. no you got it wrong. I have read the whole thread and i will have you know.......
You will never need more than the 3gb and a 7970ghz. its official. Anything more than that is a scam.

Who used the word "never"?

GTX670 4GB SLI benefited from more than 3GB of VRAM but it was still chugging at 21.6 fps. 1 Titan is expected ~ GTX670 SLI. 2 Titans will not even get you 40 fps in that setting. $1,800 would be required to achieve 40 FPS in Hitman Absolution because of 8xMSAA on 3 1080P monitors? Unless you drive a Porsche 911, who spends that kind of $ just to go from 4xMSAA to 8xMSAA?

it was a joke.

but i kinda was hoping we could move past how useless any card more than 3gb is.

It is useless unless you get 3 Titans. Every single case where 3GB has been shown to be a bottleneck is where Titan's 50-60% advantage over 7970GE wouldn't even make a dent because at that point HD7970GE runs at 12-19 fps.

6GB:
Okay, maybe not "need", but take a look here:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Metro...o-2033-auf-4K-Monitor-in-4096-x-2160-1043768/

3.1GB already in a small level. Think open world, think texture mods.

3.1GB of VRAM, but HD7970 runs at 12-15 fps.

Titan with 50% more performance would be at just 23 fps. And who is going to spend $1,800 to replay 2010 Metro 2033? By the time games use > 3GB of VRAM, we'll have 20nm GPUs that give us Titan's performance for half its price.

GK110 like any HPC part depends very much on higher IPC, so a 3770K would be probably more beneficial than a 3930 oc.Now a days where console ports are rampant many games are cpu bottlenecked.

But if you are CPU bottlenecked in games, there is no point buying any faster GPUs unless faster CPUs come out, or you increase AA, which transfers the bottleneck back to the GPU. If i7 3930 OC creates a huge bottleneck in any game so will the i7 3770K. IVB only has a 3-4% increase in IPC.

 

[Annisman*]

Counting on you guys to keep an eye on the Egg for these badboys, and let us know asap!

If I can get my hands on two Titans, there will be two GTX 670's with no homes, and I haven't done a giveaway in a while...

You guys get the idea.

 

[ocre]

Who used the word "never"?

GTX670 4GB SLI benefited from more than 3GB of VRAM but it was still chugging at 21.6 fps. 1 Titan is expected ~ GTX670 SLI. 2 Titans will not even get you 40 fps in that setting. $1,800 would be required to achieve 40 FPS in Hitman Absolution because of 8xMSAA on 3 1080P monitors? Unless you drive a Porsche 911, who spends that kind of $ just to go from 4xMSAA to 8xMSAA?





3.1GB of VRAM, but HD7970 runs at 12-15 fps.



Titan with 50% more performance would be at just 23 fps. And who is going to spend $1,800 to replay 2010 Metro 2033?

but you just posted a post saying that 4gb 680 is virtually pointless, while saying that 3gb is all that.

anyway, my posy was a joke. but you really cant see how you keep repeatably boosting the 3gb 7970ghz while downplaying titan?

Sadly this isnt even a card you are interested in. Apparently you dont like the price, the amount of ram, tdp, blower, or etc. But there really are a few people who are interested in it and see they are forced to sort through so much of mud. How can we have this much down talking a card that we havent even seen the performance of. It doesnt stand a chance. Its gonna be torn completely apart. But there are people still yet interested in it. sorry

 

[RussianSensation]

<3 BoFox
Put me down for 350 on the titan VP

Put me down for 361.

 

[RussianSensation]

anyway, my posy was a joke. but you really cant see how you keep repeatably boosting the 3gb 7970ghz while downplaying titan?

You probably missed my post where I said it would have been better if Titan launched at $799 with 3GB of VRAM. The 3 vs. 6GB has nothing to do with 7970. Benchmarks of 7970 vs 680 were linked because we could see any cases where 3GB vs. 4GB provided any benefits. The overall theme was about figuring out if > 3GB would actually be useful if the Titan is 50% faster than HD7970GE.

 

[boxleitnerb]

3.1GB of VRAM, but HD7970 runs at 12-15 fps.

Titan with 50% more performance would be at just 23 fps. And who is going to spend $1,800 to replay 2010 Metro 2033? By the time games use > 3GB of VRAM, we'll have 20nm GPUs that give us Titan's performance for half its price.

Just saying: Too close for comfort imo. Who knows if the next iteration of this engine doesn't perform a bit better and still uses so much VRAM? Or other engines, for that matter. In Skyrim I could already fill up 3GB in 1080p with forced MSAA (better smoothing) and texture mods.

 

[ocre]

You probably missed my post where I said it would have been better if Titan launched at $799 with 3GB of VRAM. The 3 vs. 6GB has nothing to do with 7970. Benchmarks of 7970 vs 680 were linked because we could see any cases where 3GB vs. 4GB provided any benefits. The overall theme was about figuring out if > 3GB would actually be useful if the Titan is 50% faster than HD7970GE.

what about 799 for a 6gb titan, now that would be even better.

 

[ocre]

I also think that there will be other varieties of geforce gk110s, I really have no doubt that over time this will occur. I believe we will see further cut down versions and perhaps eventually 2014is a fully enabled 2880 sp gk110.

I think very many people here are neglecting to realize how limited the stock is atm. The tesla guidance has went up as the sales are still improving. TSMC Wafers are not yet unlimited. Over the next year conditions should improve though. And over the months, stock piles of salvageable gk110s will be stored and used as cut down titans. Just look at the gf110, gk104 and tell me that the gk110 wont follow the same pattern. Even if the gk110 is primarily silicon is used as a tesla product, there will be chips that miss the cut. They will collect up overtime and nvidia will salvage them. Thats what they do

 

[wand3r3r]

<3 BoFox


Put me down for 350 on the titan VP

Put me down for 361.

I'll guess 340 Voodoo power. ( I think you guys are a bit closer, but I'm skeptical it's more than 50% unless the clocks are higher than the rumored 820ish). Hard to decide if it should be more or less than 350. Depends on which rumors you believe.

 

[SirPauly]

Numbers add to discussions from MSRP to performance/dollar/watt but what interests me more with new product releases are the potential gaming experience features/goodies that may also be offered for existing sku's. Curious about that SXAA feature -- if accurate -- or if there are any other goodies that may enhance flexibility, immersion or gaming experiences.

 

[RussianSensation]

How would reviewers publish Titan's reviews tomorrow if Crysis 3 isn't launching until Tuesday? Wouldn't it make sense to do reviews on February 19th-20th and include C3?

 

[OCGuy]

There haven't been enough leaks...and I don't remember them launching on a federal holiday....how did we get from end of Feb. to the 18th? Or will we get previews tonight with launch in a week?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

At this point given the rumored price I'm more interested in just seeing this monster, I will envy anyone who got the wifes OK on a purchase while I begin my task of locating 670s or 7950's who have lost their homes recently

 

[RussianSensation]

There haven't been enough leaks...and I don't remember them launching on a federal holiday....how did we get from end of Feb. to the 18th? Or will we get previews tonight with launch in a week?

It's supposed to be paper launch Feb 18th, reviews published 18th or 19th (not sure which day) and retail availability Feb 24-26th. NV apparently pushed the launch forward by 1 week which is how we ended up at Feb 18th. Feb 20th is the widely rumoured PS4 announcement.

 

[OCGuy]

It's supposed to be paper launch Feb 18th, reviews published 18th or 19th (not sure which day) and retail availability Feb 24-26th. NV apparently pushed the launch forward by 1 week which is how we ended up at Feb 18th. Feb 20th is the widely rumoured PS4 announcement.

Thank you.

My SO just came in and shook her head as she saw me with my debit card out and newegg and amazon screens open and ready to be refreshed. False alarm.

 

[SirPauly]

1.Titan is an impressive engineering product, no video card has achieved >=60% performance increase without a node shrink.

I don't mean to be a nit-picker but believe the ATI Radeon 9700 did over the ATI Radeon 8500 with 15nm

 

[RussianSensation]

I don't mean to be a nit-picker but believe the ATI Radeon 9700 did over the ATI Radeon 8500 with 15nm

150nm. Wow, you got some amazing memory. I totally forgot that. 9700 Pro was more than 2x faster than 8500 on the same node.

Thank you.

My SO just came in and shook her head as she saw me with my debit card out and newegg and amazon screens open and ready to be refreshed. False alarm.

That's only based on rumours I read. Last paragraph here.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-titan-launches-18th-february/