Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[Arachnotronic]

Buyers guide in a nutshell from my POV:

If you value efficiency and higher performance on average, go with 1060.

If you want to pay a little less* for slightly lower performance and dramatically lower efficiency, go RX 480.

If you have a Gsync monitor, get the 1060. If you have a FreeSync monitor, buy the RX 480.


*once availability improves. 1060 seems to be easier to buy ATM.

 

[tential]

Buyers guide in a nutshell from my POV:

If you value efficiency and higher performance on average, go with 1060.

If you want to pay a little less* for slightly lower performance and dramatically lower efficiency, go RX 480.

If you have a Gsync monitor, get the 1060. If you have a FreeSync monitor, buy the RX 480.


*once availability improves. 1060 seems to be easier to buy ATM.

And if you want to buy the cheapest gpu/ async combo out of the two options then go rx480+free sync.
The rx480 by itself vs the 1060 is a wash.
But the 1060 is available and actually uses low power.
The 480 + free sync vs 1060 + gsync is pretty obvious....

 

[YBS1]

Man, people are very upset that the GTX 1060 is faster than the RX 480.

Get over it guys.

Funny, the ones who are most vocal own neither.
If only there was some way we could settle this....
In the old days this would call for a bench-off.

 

[Phynaz]

Man, people are very upset that the GTX 1060 is faster than the RX 480.

Get over it guys.

Just about 5 or so. The same 5 that always defend AMD. Tiresome, isn't it?

 

[Thinker_145]

Please don't make claims about a widely accepted and trusted website. Computerbase has always reviewed with integrity and for you to claim otherwise without any data is crazy. For your love of TechPowerUp I will just leave this here.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/would-you-buy-gtx-1060-or-rx-480.224303/page-5

Seems out of over 20,000 votes the TPU community prefers the 480 by almost 40%!

This is a poll which was started over a month ago. At that point everyone assumed that price difference between 8GB 480 and 1060 would be $60 and that there is such a thing as a 4GB 480 which could be bought for $200. Things have turned out quite different obviously....

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[Shivansps]

Well after seeing Deus Ex using more than 4GB VRAM i gotta say that RX480 4GB is DOA, so it is GTX1060 3GB as well so the $200 card that was hyped so much is no longer a option, even if you could get it at that price.

And 8GB RX480 is now danger close to $300, and 8GB RX470 tends to be way over $200... i gotta say, good move AMD, really a brillant move, many AMD defenders did not see that one comming, and still talk about RX480 4GB awesome future proof when is already running short on vram, 2 months after launch.

So right now we are left only with RX470 8GB, GTX1060 6GB and RX480 8GB as options, there are RX470 8GB starting at $240, 1060 starting at $250 and RX480 8GB starting at $270, strange that the cheapper card to be the Red Devil one.

 

[Gikaseixas]

It is relevant because he is suggesting it is the more popular card, based on this forum poll.



That's funny because posting forum poll results and pretending this reflects how everyone sees this match (GTX 1060 vs RX 480) sounds a lot like marketing or salesperson. Maybe not in your definition (color me surprised).

That's not pretending anything, it's a small sample of people opinions but since it doesn't align with your interests, automatically you play it down... About the salesperson bit, you obviously care a lot about sales since you mention it on every opportunity.

 

[Bacon1]

Well after seeing Deus Ex using more than 4GB VRAM i gotta say that RX480 4GB is DOA, so it is GTX1060 3GB as well so the $200 card that was hyped so much is no longer a option, even if you could get it at that price.

The 3GB is DOA, but 4GB isn't. Handles 1080p @ Ultra.

470 4GB is $200, 8GB is $240
480 and 1060 (Single Fan) are $250
1060 dual fan is $330 ($315 AR)

 

[Gikaseixas]

As for my opinion:
- if you are looking to play mostly DX11 games get the GTX 1060 6GB
- if you are looking to play mostly DX12 games get the RX470/480 8GB
- if you are looking to play mostly MOBA games get either the GTX 1060 3GB or RX470/480 4GB

It also comes down to what features you value the most as each vendor has advantages and disadvantages. We just have to respect each others opinions that's all

 

[werepossum]

As for my opinion:
- if you are looking to play mostly DX11 games get the GTX 1060 6GB
- if you are looking to play mostly DX12 games get the RX470/480 8GB
- if you are looking to play mostly MOBA games get either the GTX 1060 3GB or RX470/480 4GB

It also comes down to what features you value the most as each vendor has advantages and disadvantages. We just have to respect each others opinions that's all

I might agree with that except for the RX470. Hard for me to accept that it would ever be a better buy than the GTX 1060 3GB at prices we've been seeing. For the price I don't really understand recommending either.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I might agree with that except for the RX470. Hard for me to accept that it would ever be a better buy than the GTX 1060 3GB at prices we've been seeing. For the price I don't really understand recommending either.

Understand your point but it wasnt that long ago that we had GTX 960 and 380X being recommended to Moba players. I just recommended them due to how capable they're at 1080p for these kind of games. Pricing is a bit of a mess I agree but that goes all the way up to GTX 1080

 

[Sweepr]

GTX 1060 >40% faster than RX 480 @ No Man's Sky:

Regarding Deus EX, the game goes >4GB VRAM at 1440p/4K Ultra yet Fury X is still outperforming GTX 980 Ti. It is an AMD title (Gaming Evolved), but this tells us not to rule out cards with less VRAM - 3GB GTX 1060 will probably do just fine at 1080 Ultra.

 

[frozentundra123456]

The 3GB is DOA, but 4GB isn't. Handles 1080p @ Ultra.

470 4GB is $200, 8GB is $240
480 and 1060 (Single Fan) are $250
1060 dual fan is $330 ($315 AR)

I would not say 3gb is DOA. 1080p high uses less than 2gb. So you just have to turn down the settings, but neither the 480 or 1060 can get 60fps at ultra anyway. And there is no data on FPS for the 3gb 1060. I am not sure the fact that a Titan X uses more than 3gb proves a weaker card with 3gb will perform poorly. Problem with the 1060 3gb is that it is too expensive for what it is. At 160 or 170 dollars, I would not hesitate to buy it. At 200, not a good choice.

 

[Erenhardt]

I would not say 3gb is DOA. 1080p high uses less than 2gb. So you just have to turn down the settings, but neither the 480 or 1060 can get 60fps at ultra anyway. And there is no data on FPS for the 3gb 1060. I am not sure the fact that a Titan X uses more than 3gb proves a weaker card with 3gb will perform poorly. Problem with the 1060 3gb is that it is too expensive for what it is. At 160 or 170 dollars, I would not hesitate to buy it. At 200, not a good choice.

Texture quality has very little impact on performance... to the point, where you don't have enough VRAM.

 

[linkgoron]

Even in the pic attached some posts before(taken from CB), there's one custom gtx 1060 and it beats all custom rx 480s present in the test. So overall it is not unfair on the part of Sweepr to call it faster than rx 480.

Sweepr did not say that the 1060 "is faster". He said "it is a much better gaming card than the disappointing RX 480" which is simply not true.

Arguments can be made in either of the card's favour, be it "future is dx12 and AMD does better there than in dx11" or "gtx 1060 is faster at present and has better OC-performance". Anyway by going for either of rx 480 8GB or 1060 6GB it doesn't matter that much really at present, neither of the cards are that bad that one has to give justification for it's purchase.

100% agree.

Any $249 custom card at stock (same as FE) is 13.6% faster than reference RX 480 according to TechPowerUp. Custom vs custom is closer but the 1060 overclocks better (8.6% vs 15.1%), draws significantly less power (especially when pushed to its limits) and is easier to find at MSRP - all of which make it a better card in my view. Feel free to disagree.

TPU do not do closed case tests, nor do they do long tests. Computerbase actually benchmarks with cards in closed cases, and from what I understand, also do a 30 minute warmup (at least for some of their tests) which obviously makes their results much more relevant to actual gamers.

If you want to pay a little less* for slightly lower performance and dramatically lower efficiency, go RX 480.

If you have a Gsync monitor, get the 1060. If you have a FreeSync monitor, buy the RX 480.

If you add the Gsync vs freesync into the mix, the price difference is much more significant.

 

[raghu78]

GTX 1060 >40% faster than RX 480 @ No Man's Sky:

No man's sky is a terribly broken game. Its definitely not a high profile AAA game which is having graphics worthy of a 2016 title.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...ing-all-kinds-of-problems-on-pc/#277b9f624f11
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3107...no-mans-skys-pc-port-is-broken-and-buggy.html

Regarding Deus EX, the game goes >4GB VRAM at 1440p/4K Ultra yet Fury X is still outperforming GTX 980 Ti. It is an AMD title (Gaming Evolved), but this tells us not to rule out cards with less VRAM - 3GB GTX 1060 will probably do just fine at 1080 Ultra.

The 3GB GTX 1060 is basically DOA as is 4GB Rx 470 / Rx 480 if you want to play at ultra settings. Square Enix and Eidos Montreal recommend 4GB for High texture settings at 1080p.

http://forums.eu.square-enix.com/showthread.php?t=190749

"This alters the resolution of textures used in the game. This primarily impacts GPU memory pressure. If this is set too high the game may start stuttering and slowing down. It does not impact performance on the GPU or the CPU much otherwise. We recommend it at High for 4GB cards. You have to restart the game to apply changes to Texture Quality."

Rx 480 Nitro 8GB is 35% faster than Rx 470 strix 4GB. GTX 1060 6GB is 21% faster than GTX 1060 3GB. btw the Rx 480 8GB Nitro is providing a fantastic gameplay experience at 1080p Ultra with 60+ fps.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Deus-.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirectX-12-1204575/

 

[RussianSensation]

No man's sky is a terribly broken game. Its definitely not a high profile AAA game which is having graphics worthy of a 2016 title.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...ing-all-kinds-of-problems-on-pc/#277b9f624f11
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3107...no-mans-skys-pc-port-is-broken-and-buggy.html

The issue for the 1060 is that it's actually 0/2 in 2 highly rated/regarded popular games: DE:MD and Doom. NMS ended up being just another different looking survival game and will be remembered more for what it isn't based on what it was promised to be.

CIV 5 favoured AMD, which suggests CIV 6 + DX12 could also favour RX 480. Star Wars Battlefront also ran better on AMD with R9 390 easily beating the 970, which suggests BF1 + DX12 could also favour RX 480. If this falls according to AMD's plan, RX 480 will be 4/4 in the biggest anticipated PC games of 2016. At that point, the great DX11 performance of 1060 won't be enough to recommend it. In fact, for anyone who has the desire to learn mining, the 1060 is already dead as every passing day the RX 480 is making $, paying for itself, while kicking 1060's butt in the latest AAA games. We are also starting to see the "Keplerization" effect creeping up on 970/980, which is now the 3rd consecutive NV generation of cards that's ageing quickly.

Today, it's common to see R9 390/390X and 980 trading blows but the 390 is just a refreshed $399 290 from a year before the $550 980 came out. At the same time, R9 390 cost $330 when 980 was still selling for $550 and now the latter card has hardly anything to show for it. Certainly, the $550 Sept 2014 980 has aged horribly. In less than 2 years, it's now losing to a $240-250 RX 480 in the latest titles. Terrible for what was once a card that many defended as the flagship. Sooner or later gamers will start to take notice that NV cards aren't built to last but yet they cost a lot upfront. Unlike technical forums that seem to have a larger % of gamers who upgrade every 12-18 months, the vast majority of PC gamers do not upgrade that quickly. The precedent in the last 4 years consistently shows that AMD cards form the same generation simply age better. RX 480 already beating 1060 in popular modern titles isn't a good start. Many DX11 games that prop up 1060's scores as reflected in the benches are so old now that almost no one plays them.

 

[Sweepr]

No man's sky is a terribly broken game.

Sounds a lot like Deus EX then:

http://www.forceclaw.com/tweaks/deu...directx12-issues-performance-fixes-amd-nvidia

Its definitely not a high profile AAA game which is having graphics worthy of a 2016 title.

You should read this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-no-mans-sky-tech-analysis

Rx 480 Nitro 8GB is 35% faster than Rx 470 strix 4GB. GTX 1060 6GB is 21% faster than GTX 1060 3GB. btw the Rx 480 8GB Nitro is providing a fantastic gameplay experience at 1080p Ultra with 60+ fps.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Deus-.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirectX-12-1204575/

Palit GTX 1060 Dual 3GB beating ASUS RX 470 Strix 4GB in a Gaming Evolved title. These tests certainly don't fit you narrative, both are pushing pushing ultra >40 FPS, not buttery smooth but certainly playable. As for 4GB being recommended for high texture settings at only 1080p, tell that to Fury X 4GB's higher framerate than RX 480 8GB at ultra preset @ 1440p/4K.

 

[Sonikku]

Well after seeing Deus Ex using more than 4GB VRAM i gotta say that RX480 4GB is DOA, so it is GTX1060 3GB as well so the $200 card that was hyped so much is no longer a option, even if you could get it at that price.

The good news for those people is that if you were one of the few to get a 480 for $200 it's a pretty good bet you got yourself a 8gb card*!!


*(with unlock)

 

[raghu78]

Sounds a lot like Deus EX then:

http://www.forceclaw.com/tweaks/deu...directx12-issues-performance-fixes-amd-nvidia

Do not compare a broken game with Deus Ex Mankind Divided

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...-divided-is-a-true-deus-ex-game/#6c93b90b73d6

btw there is a day 1 patch which fixes quite a few stability issues.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/337000/discussions/0/355043117529200552/

You should read this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-no-mans-sky-tech-analysis

The developers might have tried something unique with procedural generation and voxels but the end product is not worthy (atleast in its current state) of being called a AAA title. The user reviews for this game are abysmal. even critics score is below average.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/no-mans-sky

Palit GTX 1060 Dual 3GB beating ASUS RX 470 Strix 4GB in a Gaming Evolved title, does better than its bigger brother relative to its closest competitors. These tests certainly don't fit you narrative, both are pushing pushing ultra >40 FPS, not buttery smooth but certainly playable. As for 4GB being recommended for high texture settings at only 1080p, tell that to Fury X 4GB's higher framerate than RX 480 8GB at ultra preset @ 1440p/4K.

frame rates will not tell the entire story when there is stuttering due to texture swapping. The developer knows better and has good reason to recommend 4GB for 1080p High.

 

[fuccboi]

Freesync Gsync are just a memes, just like SLI or Crossfire. Once you have it you know you've been had by the PR dep and the memezors still high on hype.

You can see here which games will most likely run better on AMD cards just like Hitman Deus Ex, these titles are a part of many sites' benches as well. Gaming Evolved is starting to seriously compete with Gimpworks.

Also aren't Pascals quite good at mining nowadays? 1060 3gb is almost on par with 470 4gb at ethereum while being more efficient and costing the same in some countries. I've also read that Pascals are generally faster at other algos which might be more futureproof for miners.

 

[Sonikku]

I could use my 6gb 1060 to mine? huh, figured it was an AMD thing.

 

[Ranulf]

The free games games have started, "$115 of in-game value of Paragon" now for GTX 10 series at NE.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995260

 

[Erenhardt]

Sounds a lot like Deus EX then:

http://www.forceclaw.com/tweaks/deu...directx12-issues-performance-fixes-amd-nvidia



You should read this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-no-mans-sky-tech-analysis



Palit GTX 1060 Dual 3GB beating ASUS RX 470 Strix 4GB in a Gaming Evolved title. These tests certainly don't fit you narrative, both are pushing pushing ultra >40 FPS, not buttery smooth but certainly playable. As for 4GB being recommended for high texture settings at only 1080p, tell that to Fury X 4GB's higher framerate than RX 480 8GB at ultra preset @ 1440p/4K.

Well. This asus 470 you are desperately trying to latch on is 20% slower than the other 470. I guess something is broken with the asus card. No reason to have such a huge spread. Sapphire 470 has whooping 850% larger lead on 1060 3GB than it has on the asus 470.

Freesync Gsync are just a memes, just like SLI or Crossfire. Once you have it you know you've been had by the PR dep and the memezors still high on hype.

You can see here which games will most likely run better on AMD cards just like Hitman Deus Ex, these titles are a part of many sites' benches as well. Gaming Evolved is starting to seriously compete with Gimpworks.

Nope, its actually quite nice for image quality. Also, because Freesync is free, it don't feel like you've waster any $ on it, even if you GPU can't support it.

Also aren't Pascals quite good at mining nowadays? 1060 3gb is almost on par with 470 4gb at ethereum while being more efficient and costing the same in some countries. I've also read that Pascals are generally faster at other algos which might be more futureproof for miners.

Nope. Full 1060 is 25% slower at 10% less power. Cut down 1060 will be even worse.

I could use my 6gb 1060 to mine? huh, figured it was an AMD thing.

You can mine on intel IGP.

 

[fuccboi]

Nope. Full 1060 is 25% slower at 10% less power. Cut down 1060 will be even worse.

How will the cut down 1060 be worse than the full in ethereum? It has the same memory bandwidth. Full 1060 can do 20-22MH/s dependant on mem OC, that's what you get with 470 4gb on 1650-1750Mhz mem.