Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

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If the 1060 is $299 and it's ~GTX 980 performance...

What about the discounted custom OC 970 that already offer ~GTX 980 performance? It'll be like $200 vs $299.. 3.5GB vs 6GB worth that much for 1080p gamers?

It wouldn't be an issue if NV actually priced it at $249 flat out, no FE +20% mark up BS.
 

rainy

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I'm curious if availability 249 dollars version of GTX 1060 would be non-existent in the next couple of weeks (or more) as already happened to 379/599 dollars GTX 1070/80?
 

acabose2009

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Right now newegg has both the 1070 and 1080 with versions just $20 over msrp when they are in stock so hopefully the release of the 1060 helps bring them down to the full msrp.

But yea... stop with the damn fe crap.

It's true, they have one 1070 and 1080 model priced 20$ above msrp, and 15 priced 50$ or more above msrp.
 

Keysplayr

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So now a reference card is special limited edition? Nice marketing.

I can't say for everywhere else, but in my part of the world, most of the custom 1070 and 1080 are priced the same as the reference card, a few below it a bit, a few above it. None are at MSRP.

In fact, there's still no MSRP 1070 or 1080 going around, correct? Where can you buy a 1070 for $379 and a 1080 for $599? I haven't checked in awhile, maybe this mythical variant exists.

Why do you guys expect if NV is doing the same thing, MSRP & FE dual pricing, that you somehow think custom 1060s that are BETTER than the reference card to sell for 25% less at MSRP?

Try not to worry about it. Just focus on the AIB versions.
 

Keysplayr

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If the 1060 is $299 and it's ~GTX 980 performance...

What about the discounted custom OC 970 that already offer ~GTX 980 performance? It'll be like $200 vs $299.. 3.5GB vs 6GB worth that much for 1080p gamers?

It wouldn't be an issue if NV actually priced it at $249 flat out, no FE +20% mark up BS.

Yeah like I mentioned, try not to worry about the FE cards. Just focus on the supposed 249.00 AIB versions. That is a nice price for a 6GB 1060 to be sure.
 

Dribble

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Not if the reference 1060 is $299.

Unfortunately the AMD reference edition is rubbish, hence you basically have to buy an aftermarket 480, and an aftermarket 1060 because the reference is over priced so the difference is $10. The 4GB 480 might still have a market, but the 8GB is not going to sell much.
 
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Yeah like I mentioned, try not to worry about the FE cards. Just focus on the supposed 249.00 AIB versions. That is a nice price for a 6GB 1060 to be sure.

Definitely if custom 1060 are $249 for 6GB, that's a great price and I would congratulate and commend NV for offering a great bang for buck GPU.

It would force AMD to price custom RX 480s at slightly below that mark.
 

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Definitely if custom 1060 are $249 for 6GB, that's a great price and I would congratulate and commend NV for offering a great bang for buck GPU.

It would force AMD to price custom RX 480s at slightly below that mark.

Sure looks like Nvidia's going for the jugular with this price move.

With OCed to 2.1ghz 8 GT/S GDDR5 1060s @ 250 USD vs
OCed to 1.45ghz 8 GT/S GDDR5 RX 480 @ 240 USD.

It's going to be a bloodbath for the RX 480.
 

dark zero

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Now this is interesting to see. The 6 GB version might sell well, but the FE ones... good luck for them . However seems that we need to wait some months more un order to see how good is the card and if it can resist the future.
 

psolord

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Sure looks like Nvidia's going for the jugular with this price move.

With OCed to 2.1ghz 8 GT/S GDDR5 1060s @ 250 USD vs
OCed to 1.45ghz 8 GT/S GDDR5 RX 480 @ 240 USD.

It's going to be a bloodbath for the RX 480.

At 2.1Ghz, the 1060 should be around 35% faster than a 970 would it not?

I guess then, it could be a viable upgrade option for 290/970 users.
 
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Sure looks like Nvidia's going for the jugular with this price move.

With OCed to 2.1ghz 8 GT/S GDDR5 1060s @ 250 USD vs
OCed to 1.45ghz 8 GT/S GDDR5 RX 480 @ 240 USD.

It's going to be a bloodbath for the RX 480.

Have you looked at how 1070 and 1080 scale with OC yet?

Most sites find 10-12%.

This ain't Maxwell with 20-25% perf from OC.
 

Tweak155

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It doesn't say which model is $249 unless I'm reading it wrong, just says 'starts at'. If it's $249 for the 6gb, that's pretty good.
 

JoeRambo

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Have you looked at how 1070 and 1080 scale with OC yet?

1060 could be better due to having generous amount of ROPs and 192bit mem? Still, scaling or not, AMD is in deep trouble as their product uses more watts for what is 500Mhz clock deficit.
 

SPBHM

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if it's $249 for the 6GB model, even if it is only as fast as the 480 it would be pretty good, because it's more efficient, from Nvidia and we expect it to be faster on DX11 and OC more, so...

if it's $249 for the 3GB :thumbsdown:
that would be $50 more than the 480 with 1GB more.
 

railven

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Have you looked at how 1070 and 1080 scale with OC yet?

Most sites find 10-12%.

This ain't Maxwell with 20-25% perf from OC.

Yeah but the alternative is RX 480, who's OC reports I've seen push it above 200W. That 1480mhz OC was hitting over 250W o_O

If GP106 brings the efficiency GP104 brought, OC'ing results heavily favor NV. RX 480 is a pig when OC'ed. Hell, it's a pig stock and people are already telling each other to undervolt.
 

RussianSensation

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290X launched at $549.

Already told you this comparison makes no sense. How can you compare the resale value of 2 cards that released almost a year apart? Either compare $549 290X to $699 780Ti or if you are going to use a $549 980, the 290X cost $280-325 by then. Throughout 95% of the time 980 and 290X sold side-by-side, it was possible to find 290X for much less than the $549 MSRP.

RS, you're forgetting that the 960 has HDMI 2.0. Its the HTPC card. Gotta be forward thinking for those newer tvs

I know right because it was used for 4K HDTV gaming and 99% of the $200-300 target market has those TVs :)

I like the "under windows" stipulation there... :D

Probably knows that the 1070 gets a decent 31MH/s at 145W under Linux, but that doesn't matter because it doesn't fit his agenda to sell the red cards...

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/7722/gtx-1070-fe-mining-benchmarks

Yes, because I used a scenario of mining on the side and gaming too. Good luck playing AAA games on Linux. I didn't say anything about buying a dedicated mining rig.

Btw, you ignored 290's 50%+ lead over 960 and 280X/380X's 15-20% lead over the 280X. Fully expect you to recommend the $200 480 4GB over $249-299 1060.

That has to be the dumbest "comparison" imaginable. It's difficult to believe you actually posted that with a straight face. Here's the CPU equivalent : If I bought an FX-8350 for $160 and an i5-6600K for $249, left the former unopened in a cupboard for a year but used the latter for work earning a $50,000 salary in the process, I hereby declare AMD CPU's are over 300x more expensive than Intel's ($160 vs -$49,751) using the same "True TCO RussianSensation Cost/Profit Calculator" (tm)... :rolleyes:

Honestly, the "quality" of "analysis" and borderline troll "comparisons" on these forums even by supposed "higher grade advice" members has completely fallen through the floor over the past couple of weeks... :thumbsdown:

I don't think you understand what an analogy is.

Let me know when you can make a $50,000+ salary with a GTX1060 instead of buying an RX 480. Mining is something that could have been done on the side, at night, etc. Can I buy a 1060 and hqce it pay for itself over time on the side right now while playing games under Windows? Seems you have no response to that other than snide remarks and digs.

I provided a solid alternative to mainstream/performance gamers to keep more $$$ in their pocket and have more money saved towards keeping their rig up-to-date in 2018. Your response to that was basically "I have nothing so I am just going to attack the poster by using a non-relevant analogy."

In the context of RS's post, the discussion was about someone who could pay off their gaming GPU by mining. In my mind, that is someone who buys a single card, maybe 2, not someone who is creating a mining farm. Either way, I can only speculate that the 1060 will be just as efficient as the 1070 while mining, maybe even more so since it is a full chip.

But to say only AMD cards can mine is disingenuous.

Not many RX 480 / 1060 will be interested in gaming under Linux. The mining rates you quoted are impossible to achieve under Windows 10 at the current time. Pascal 1070/1080 get 4.5-5MH/sec under Windows 10. Also, you need to use very old drivers to get good rates under Windows for even the Maxwell line. This limitation doesn't exist for RX 480.

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Regardless, as it stands, it's turning out like this:

$199 RX 480 4GB
$239 RX 480 8GB

$249 1060 6GB
$299 1060 FE

Going in knowing these cards aren't that powerful and are 2 year stop-gaps, it's easy to recommend the $200 480 because 1060 $249-299 is 25%-50% more expensive. That makes 1060 overpriced for the level of performance it has.
 
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if it's $249 for the 6GB model, even if it is only as fast as the 480 it would be pretty good, because it's more efficient, from Nvidia and we expect it to be faster on DX11 and OC more, so...

if it's $249 for the 3GB :thumbsdown:
that would be $50 more than the 480 with 1GB more.

Every leak so far has said that there won't be a 3GB 1060.

People repeating that there would be one is purely a figment of forum imagination.





Also an AMD Damage Control Brigade Update:

"AIBs won't price Nvidia cards at MSRP, but will definitely never violate MSRP for AMD cards because faith"

"Nvidia matching AMD set price with a superior card = Nvidia raising prices for the market"

"When leaks don't favor AMD, lie about them until they do"

Threadcrapping and trolling are not allowed
"AMD Damage Control Brigade" updates or comments are such.
Markfw900
 
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mohit9206

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So the NDA truly lifts today and we will get official announcement from Nvidia or is it just another rumor? Because $249 for 6gb sounds pretty good to me but hat's only if its faster than 480 though.
 

BSim500

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I don't think you understand what an analogy is. Let me know when you can make a $50,000+ salary with a GTX1060 instead of buying an RX 480
Your "analogy" is totally bogus. It wasn't even based on different mining performance of the cards, just "What if the guy who bought an RX 480 spent all day mining whilst the other guy who bought a GTX 1060 had no personal interest in mining", which could be easily reversed on any x vs y card comparison. There have been some valid, marginally valid and some iffy comparisons recently, but that one was and still is a flat out epic fail. :thumbsdown:
 

R0H1T

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They're not at the founders edition MSRP either though in Aus, they're a good $100US higher or so. Typical Australia tax situation I think rather than directly related to the founders premium.
You mean worldwide, except the US of A which doesn't like taxes for some reason :D

I expect AIB cards will debut at least 50~100$ above US prices elsewhere in the world, some places will get cards at twice the US' price D:
 

RussianSensation

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I'll be very happy if the 6GB model hits $250. It'll mean it's a great time to be a mainstream PC gamer again if it turns out to be true.

True but how many AIBs will hit $249? Since the market is starting to catch up that blowers are generally not as good as modern open air coolers, AIBs know their cards are superior. As a result, it's hard to see AMD or NV AIBs hitting $199-239 and $249 MSRP level. It's also amusing seeing people compare blower RX 480 to the lower price of 1060. If one argues that a blower is required, then this type of gamer would literally be looking at a $199-239 480 against a $299 1060. The 1060 looks absolutely awful under such a scenario; but of course it will sell on brand name/"higher quality" perception.

Remember when NV has a $399 reference 670 but Gigabyte and MSI released after-market cards for $399? Those days are also behind us.

BTW, NV snuck in another price increase because they positioned 1060 as a $249-299 card, another $50-100 more expensive than a $199 960 or $249 760.

$299 MSRP for reference is 660Ti's level and 660Ti was not as far behind the 670 as 1060 will be against the 1070.

That means NV is raising prices and creating even larger tier gaps. Everyone is too busy discussing RX 480 vs. 1060 but the underlying theme is the same -- prices keep rising under our nose and very few are criticizing NV for it. Gamers basically forgave NV for jacking up $329 970 to $399-449 1070 and $549 980 to $620-700 1080. Now the price increase has made its way to the x60 tier. Comparing 1060 to 660 also shows just how much prices have increased.

Reference 660 cost $190, not $300.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Gaming/
 
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