Question Geekbench 6 released and calibrated against Core i7-12700

[igor_kavinski]

Geekbench 6 - Geekbench Blog

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Weird choice of baseline CPU and even weird is that the baseline score is 2500.

i7-12700 does hardly 2000 in GB5 with the fastest DDR5.

EDIT: Gideon's browser extension/add-on: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...d-against-core-i7-12700.2610597/post-41452115

Helps you make sense of the results if you are left scratching your head about why a certain test is fast on a certain CPU.

Super useful!

Sample screenshot:

 

[511]

I do wonder at what point will higher frequency get bottlenecked by slower RAM, even in GB6 ST tests. Most existing users will upgrade on the same mobo with DDR5-6000 CL30. Will it be enough to satisfy the data crunching hunger of a Zen 6 core?

for Single Core tests yes

 

[Tup3x]

On Desktop and Linux it is entirely possible without shenanigans like SME
fyi i am expecting 20-24% ST improvements for Zen 6 10-12% from IPC and 10-12% from clocks.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B650M AORUS ELITE AX - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B650M AORUS ELITE AX with an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Well, it better be hammering this laptop chips because if it doesn't...

 

[511]

Well, it better be hammering this laptop chips because if it doesn't...

It should yes otherwise what's the point if they are loosing to Mobile chips in peak ST perf 🤣

 

[mvprod123]

X2 Elite becomes the new ST champ.

Qualcomm’s 18-core Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme dominates in first benchmarks – 18 cores and 48GB of on-package memory on a 192-bit bus look tough to beat

Can competing chip makers strike back before the X2’s arrival in 2026?

www.tomshardware.com

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Well, until M5 is released.

Still slower in ST CB2024

 

[igor_kavinski]

Still slower in ST CB2024

Hmm...could be some GB6 subtest inflating the score?

 

[igor_kavinski]

It should yes otherwise what's the point if they are loosing to Mobile chips in peak ST perf 🤣

I dunno. I'm very skeptical. I think 2026 x86 chips will go as high as 3999. Or maybe 4001.

It would be unexpected considering the precedent.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Benchmarks - Geekbench

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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X Benchmarks - Geekbench

browser.geekbench.com

Barely 14% increase.

 

[Tup3x]

Still slower in ST CB2024

Windows being windows might explain part of it.

I dunno. I'm very skeptical. I think 2026 x86 chips will go as high as 3999. Or maybe 4001.

For laptops? Not going to happen. Desktops might get close.

 

[511]

I dunno. I'm very skeptical. I think 2026 x86 chips will go as high as 3999. Or maybe 4001.

That's pessimistic tbh I totally expect > 4000 GB Score for both NVL/Zen 6 on Linux.

 

[igor_kavinski]

That's pessimistic tbh I totally expect > 4000 GB Score for both NVL/Zen 6 on Linux.

NVL needs an even bigger jump from ARL. How can one expect a miracle from a team that failed from ADL to ARL?

 

[gdansk]

How can one expect a miracle from a team that failed from ADL to ARL?

They only need 400MHz and another Lion Cove like improvement. Or just add an AMX unit (I think NVL might? @511). Then the memebench6 score goes up more even if they can't get more frequency.
Should be possible. The problem being that they'll be on 2nm competing with 3nm. And Qualcomm likely won't sit still.

 

[igor_kavinski]

They only need 400MHz

So 6.1 GHz? Last time didn't turn out so well for them.

Raptor *cough* Lake

 

[511]

They only need 400MHz and another Lion Cove like improvement. Or just add an AMX unit (I think NVL might? @511). Then the memebench6 score goes up more even if they can't get more frequency.
Should be possible. The problem being that they'll be on 2nm competing with 3nm. And Qualcomm likely won't sit still.

No AMX for NVL but you get AVX 10.2/APX with NVL also the IPC should be double digits with Coyote Cove it's a big redesign.

 

[511]

So 6.1 GHz? Last time didn't turn out so well for them.

Raptor *cough* Lake

If they had fixed the voltage to 1.5V RPL wouldn't have happened.

 

[igor_kavinski]

No AMX for NVL but you get AVX 10.2/APX with NVL also the IPC should be double digits with Coyote Cove it's a big redesign.

Oh yeah. Forgot about APX. That might do it, with a minor version bump of GB6 just before Intel launches NVL.

AVX 10.2 I'm not so sure. Doesn't benefit AMD as much as SME benefits Apple.

 

[511]

Oh yeah. Forgot about APX. That might do it, with a minor version bump of GB6 just before Intel launches NVL.

AVX 10.2 I'm not so sure. Doesn't benefit AMD as much as SME benefits Apple.

Maybe Intel will force newer binaries for GB for more modern ISA 😂🤣

 

[MS_AT]

Maybe Intel will force newer binaries for GB for more modern ISA

They will have to ask geekbench guys for APX dynamic dispatch as I think separate APX binary is out of the question.

 

[poke01]

X2 Elite becomes the new ST champ.

Qualcomm’s 18-core Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme dominates in first benchmarks – 18 cores and 48GB of on-package memory on a 192-bit bus look tough to beat

Can competing chip makers strike back before the X2’s arrival in 2026?

www.tomshardware.com

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Well, until M5 is released.

Don’t even need to wait till M5.

Mac Studio (M4 Max) - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Mac16,9 with an Apple M4 Max processor.

browser.geekbench.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

Don’t even need to wait till M5.

M5 should do it cheaper than that though

 

[Joe NYC]

Didn't someone here run AVX512 on and off comparisons for GB6 on Zen 4 and find almost no difference in performance?

There is a big difference in Geekbench 5 between AVX-512 or or off.

The reason in Geekbench 6 the difference is small is because, as part of optimizing for Arm, they removed the sub benches using AVX-512 and then added optimization for SME.

That's not something a benchmarking company would do, only a "showcasing" company. Which is what Geekbench has become.

 

[511]

That's not something a benchmarking company would do, only a "showcasing" company. Which is what Geekbench has become.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B650M AORUS ELITE AX vs 9950X default (AVX512 off) - Geekbench

browser.geekbench.com

It's mainly the crypto benchmark but crypto is more useful and every vendor supports accelerated Crypto instructions.