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Gee thanks, George Lucas, you suck.
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In the SSE version of the Star Wars Trilogy, Darth Vader changes his name to Turd Ferguson, Paris Hilton is digitally edited into the movies to replace Carrie Fisher as Leia, R2D2 no longer beeps but has a voiceover with a lot more street cred (?C3PO, you just got served, biatch.?) and Han Solo is now a woman warrior with a lot of heart played by Angelina Jolie.
He's just so insecure in his filmmaking that he has to go back, "better" them and destroy the originals so that eventually no one will know anything else but the updated versions.
You don't see a lot of the other great directors to come out of that time going back to make their films "better."
Vic
Elite Member
Anyone seen the recent "Making of..." Star Wars bit on (IIRC) A&E? Even Lucas admitted that he has slipped to the Dark Side (in his opinion, corporatism).
The changes that Lucas has made are not "minor". The entire moral story has been changed (Star Wars is, or was, a morality play). Not just with the SE changes but with the developments added in Ep's 1 and 2. Han is no longer running for his life and desperately in need of money to pay off Jabba. The Force is something one is born with, not a discipline that can be learned by faithful. Stormtroopers are zombie clones. Annakin's fall to the Dark Side to become Darth Vader is no longer a mighty fall from grace, but like tripping off a low curb (and thus his redemption in ROTJ has much less meaning). I could go on.
Lucas himself said that (in his early film career) the Dark Side of the force represented all that is evil and corporate in the film industry. Now he is exactly that.
The changes that Lucas has made are not "minor". The entire moral story has been changed (Star Wars is, or was, a morality play). Not just with the SE changes but with the developments added in Ep's 1 and 2. Han is no longer running for his life and desperately in need of money to pay off Jabba. The Force is something one is born with, not a discipline that can be learned by faithful. Stormtroopers are zombie clones. Annakin's fall to the Dark Side to become Darth Vader is no longer a mighty fall from grace, but like tripping off a low curb (and thus his redemption in ROTJ has much less meaning). I could go on.
Lucas himself said that (in his early film career) the Dark Side of the force represented all that is evil and corporate in the film industry. Now he is exactly that.
Modeps
Lifer
Lucas considers himself an artist. Artists are rarely 100% happy with their work. He thought he was improving it. Unfortunately, he messed with something that was beloved by the entire world and now nerds are angry. My wife didnt even realize it was mucked with (and she bought the original VHS box set back in the day).
It's really not that big of a deal, although he should have left well enough alone.
It's really not that big of a deal, although he should have left well enough alone.
LOL this post cracks me up.. dude get off the freaking crack...
nothing has changed at all except better grafics and more immersion..
the story is exactly the same...
we all knew that you had to be born force adept...
you dont just wake up one day and say wow.. i feel like i could move an Xwing with my mind today...
anyone that has followed Star Wars and the cannon as well as the movies knew this long before ep 1 and 2...
the Stormtroopers in the clone war were in fact clones....
in the time frame of the later movies they were not all clones...
the Empire began recruiting and stromtroopers were regular shock troopers in battle armour..
Han was never innocent of anything he was a scum bag smuggler.
imported_Strang
Platinum Member
And yet the other posters in the thread are "stormtrooper helmet wearing plastic lightsaber havign fruit loops." 😛
It *does* change a lot of the story to change those things. If the characters' motivations change (as w/ Han), the character changes.
Plus the midichlorian thing is the *stupidest* addition to the whole series. Way to reduce something that fascinated my 8-year-old self into something like white blood cells, heh.
Imagine how pissed off I would be if I was actually a Star Wars geek. 😛
MartyMcFly3
Lifer
That and it just doesnt make any sense. Luke unmasks Sebastian Shaw's Vader, not Hayden Christensen's. You dont see a younger Yoda or Ewan McGregor as a younger Obi-Wan... You know why? Luke didnt see them in that form so it makes no sense for them to appear in the "Force Ghosts" scene.
Luke would look at Hayden and be like "who the fvck are you?"
imported_Strang
Platinum Member
But those are directors' cuts with original footage re-added, not CGI-edited footage.
lokiju
Lifer
These small changes don't bug me, if I were George though I'd offer the original version and the "enhanced" version in an effort to make more money if anything else.
BTW Hayden Christensen sucks ass at acting and is one of the biggest failings of all the movies. They need to get a completely new actor and digital redo the last two with Hayden Christensen removed. How could they go so far as to make two movies and not realize how badly he sucks at acting?
BTW Hayden Christensen sucks ass at acting and is one of the biggest failings of all the movies. They need to get a completely new actor and digital redo the last two with Hayden Christensen removed. How could they go so far as to make two movies and not realize how badly he sucks at acting?
Not the same thing.
Both the originals of those movies were made available (and are still available) in current video formats.
The Apocolypse Now DVD came out a long time before the Redux and the Redux just contains extra footage. The overall story hasn't change.
The Exorcist DVD is the same thing. It was released on DVD long before the add scenes were in and you can still buy the original version.
For either of those you aren't forced to by the "better" version.
fallenangel99
Golden Member
wow they really changed the Jabba guy.. the new one looks more "real"
imported_Strang
Platinum Member
Well, to be fair, Christensen wasn't in the first movie -- Jake Lloyd was the awful actor playing Anakin in that one. If you want to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt, you could argue that he hired Christensen to maintain a consistency in the crappiness of the acting.
Also all of the actors sucked in the prequels (with the exception of Ewan MacGregor).
imported_Strang
Platinum Member
I'd say that's true, although if Christensen is excellent, what does that make MacGregor? 😉
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