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Gay Pride Parade

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HAL9000 said:
Nothing for me to reply to? OK then.
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Oh, I forgot how your logic works.

If a woman is about to be raped or killed in her own home it's not OK for her to defend herself? If lewd individuals flaunt their genitalia around for children to see its OK as well?

I don't know what kind of Philosophy courses you've taken but generally all famous Philosophers followed some kind of moral code/mindset.... you should have failed these courses as you're failing at real life. That is unless your goal is to troll; you're doing a terrific job at that.
 
Angry Irishman said:
Oh, I forgot how your logic works.

If a woman is about to be raped or killed in her own home it's not OK for her to defend herself?
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Never said that.

If lewd individuals flaunt their genitalia around for children to see its OK as well?
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genitalia not found.

I don't know what kind of Philosophy courses you've taken but generally all famous Philosophers followed some kind of moral code/mindset.... you should have failed these courses as you're failing at real life. That is unless your goal is to troll; you're doing a terrific job at that.
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I got a 2:1 in my degree.
 
Angry Irishman said:
Do you really think this is OK for children to watch in any kind of a parade?

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I probably wouldn't take my children to it, but having been to both NYC gay pride and New Orleans mardis gras, I wouldn't say that gays have a lock on public displays of hedonism... and your kids can be exposed to worse than both on basic cable in the middle of the afternoon while you're in the kitchen making lunch.
 
loki8481 said:
I probably wouldn't take my children to it, but having been to both NYC gay pride and New Orleans mardis gras, I wouldn't say that gays have a lock on public displays of hedonism... and your kids can be exposed to worse than both on basic cable in the middle of the afternoon while you're in the kitchen making lunch.
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I never said that gay folks did? Your statement is Very true about children's exposure to cable TV, games or anything.

What is important and required is good parenting and practicing sound judgment. The fact that someone like Neckbeard may actually procreate someday doesn't say much for the future of humanity.
 
loki8481 said:
I probably wouldn't take my children to it, but having been to both NYC gay pride and New Orleans mardis gras, I wouldn't say that gays have a lock on public displays of hedonism... and your kids can be exposed to worse than both on basic cable in the middle of the afternoon while you're in the kitchen making lunch.
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I think my "problem" with it is how it portrays the gay community to the parts of the public who may be somewhat intellectually challenged. A gay pride parade with excessive amounts of lewd sexual behavior comes off as a community defining characteristic. "Hey look, when gay people come out together, it really shows what kind of deviates they are!" A stigma that is all too wrong, but being extolled by a very vocal minority within the gay community (I'd imagine). Sure, one can simply say, "Well, the public should be intelligent enough to understand that just because some of this flamboyance occurs as part of the parades, it's not indicative of the entire population." Yes, that's most likely true, but I'm guessing many homosexuals would still rather not have the hedonists representing the face of the community.
 
Seen the Vancouver pride parade 2 or 3 times when I worked down at 7-11, the one I worked in was in a gay part of the city and on the parade route. It's fun to see if you like parades. Personally I don't care for any type of parade so seeing it once or twice was enough for me, though I fully support the gay community and gay marriage.
 
Angry Irishman said:
Do you really think this is OK for children to watch in any kind of a parade?

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Meh it all depends on the age of the kids in question. Teenagers I don't think I would have any issues with at all. Younger kids it depends on how well adjusted and mature they are. Some younger kids I would have to problems with, others maybe not as much. Basically so long as they are mature, well adjusted, and have been raised open minded and understand what sexuality is then I wouldn't have an issue. If anything it's an educational experience.
 
TheVrolok said:
I think my "problem" with it is how it portrays the gay community to the parts of the public who may be somewhat intellectually challenged. A gay pride parade with excessive amounts of lewd sexual behavior comes off as a community defining characteristic. "Hey look, when gay people come out together, it really shows what kind of deviates they are!" A stigma that is all too wrong, but being extolled by a very vocal minority within the gay community (I'd imagine). Sure, one can simply say, "Well, the public should be intelligent enough to understand that just because some of this flamboyance occurs as part of the parades, it's not indicative of the entire population." Yes, that's most likely true, but I'm guessing many homosexuals would still rather not have the hedonists representing the face of the community.
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eh. why should people expect a gay pride parade to be representative of an entire community any moreso than St. Patrick's Day is for Irish people or Columbus Day is for Italians? it's just an excuse to party.
 
TheVrolok said:
I think my "problem" with it is how it portrays the gay community to the parts of the public who may be somewhat intellectually challenged. A gay pride parade with excessive amounts of lewd sexual behavior comes off as a community defining characteristic. "Hey look, when gay people come out together, it really shows what kind of deviates they are!" A stigma that is all too wrong, but being extolled by a very vocal minority within the gay community (I'd imagine). Sure, one can simply say, "Well, the public should be intelligent enough to understand that just because some of this flamboyance occurs as part of the parades, it's not indicative of the entire population." Yes, that's most likely true, but I'm guessing many homosexuals would still rather not have the hedonists representing the face of the community.
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This is what I am wondering after reading this thread, thanks for mentioning it. Basically what you said, if this is a pride parade, wouldn't you want to put the best possible face on your community? Walking around with a steel strap on does not promote understanding or tolerance exactly. But whatever, to each is own but surely there is a better way to portray the community. On the other hand, maybe their intent is not what I am talking about, and instead they want to send a big fuck you to everyone for the past. *shrugs again*
 
loki8481 said:
eh. why should people expect a gay pride parade to be representative of an entire community any moreso than St. Patrick's Day is for Irish people or Columbus Day is for Italians? it's just an excuse to party.
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Since when do gays need an excuse to party? I have never known one that needs one. 😀
 
davmat787 said:
This is what I am wondering after reading this thread, thanks for mentioning it. Basically what you said, if this is a pride parade, wouldn't you want to put the best possible face on your community? Walking around with a steel strap on does not promote understanding or tolerance exactly. But whatever, to each is own but surely there is a better way to portray the community. On the other hand, maybe their intent is not what I am talking about, and instead they want to send a big fuck you to everyone for the past. *shrugs again*
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I think it's more of a fuck you to the intolerant people and a "be your sexuality, be proud of it, show it off" type thing.
 
HAL9000 said:
I think it's more that people are happy to be out, some people hide their entire lives and the gay pride parades might make those people come out and be happy with who they are, you can be proud of who you are even if it's innate.
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My argument is, that being gay isn't "who" you are (which you can be proud of), but "what" you are.

I agree that being happy to be "out" is fine. But a "gay pride" parade is mostly about being proud to be gay, which I think is at best silly and at worst retarded.
 
datalink7 said:
My argument is, that being gay isn't "who" you are (which you can be proud of), but "what" you are.

I agree that being happy to be "out" is fine. But a "gay pride" parade is mostly about being proud to be gay, which I think is at best silly and at worst retarded.
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Being gay is a part of who you are, it can be a very large part of who you are, gay people have their own sub culture and society, as a result it is about being proud of being a part of that life / culture.
 
HAL9000 said:
Being gay is a part of who you are, it can be a very large part of who you are, gay people have their own sub culture and society, as a result it is about being proud of being a part of that life / culture.
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I disagree. Some gay people have their own "culture", some do not. Are you going to say those that don't participate in the "gay culture" aren't really gay? Because that's what you're saying when you state "gay people have their own sub culture".
 
datalink7 said:
I disagree. Some gay people have their own "culture", some do not. Are you going to say those that don't participate in the "gay culture" aren't really gay? Because that's what you're saying when you state "gay people have their own sub culture".
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Of course I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that being gay can be something to be proud of, having the confidence to say "I don't give a fuck what you think of me, I love being gay" is pride. Saying that you like sex, you like your culture can be something to be proud of, there is absolutely a good reason to be proud of being gay.
 
HAL9000 said:
Of course I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that being gay can be something to be proud of, having the confidence to say "I don't give a fuck what you think of me, I love being gay" is pride. Saying that you like sex, you like your culture can be something to be proud of, there is absolutely a good reason to be proud of being gay.
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What I'm saying is that, that's not being proud to be gay, that's being proud to be free to express oneself and free from oppression. That doesn't have anything to do with being gay.
 
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