He is referring to the choice that homosexuals have made. That is a totally different issue though, one in which I'm sure many here would disagree on.
Specop 007
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The lifestyle of throwing it in my face, if trying to make a big to-do out of nothing.
I have no problems with gays who dont throw it in my face and walk around in assless chaps and scream everytime we maybe dont want out children reading a book about pole smoking. Just like I dont have a problem with minorities who dont blame all their failures on their color and the man holding them down, just like I dont have a problem with whites who dont tell me the minorities are ruining the country and we have to "Stay white man!".
And it goes on and on. Jesus, how about acting like a civil person. I dont care what you do in your personal private life, but KEEP IT THERE.
And for the record...I have 2 friends who are gay and a cousin. I have no problem with 2 of the 3 of them. My cousin and one friend are normal everyday Joes. (Or maybe Joe-etttes, I dunno....). Point is, they dont walk around in assless chaps and scream to the world their gay and damnit their proud! Fine, great. Do what you want, but dont telll me about it!
Now that "gay lifestyle" is the one of assless chaps, rainbow colors and pushing toooth and nail to make all aspects of gay life available to the public. My kid doesnt need a book in the library about being gay. I dont need to see you in assless chaps. Dont push for it and maybe people would take you seriously.
*EDIT*
I should have probably said the subset of the gay lifestyle thats extremely outpsoken. You know, a case of the minority riuning it for the majority sort of deal.
FelixDeCat
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Specop 007
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That depends on whether you think being gay is chosen or genetic. As you say, a totally different issue.
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Originally posted by: TravisT
Exactly, likewise for you... just in the opposite direction.
No, the available evidence is leaning to the direction of it not being a choice, the exavct mechanism(s) are still largely unknown. However nothing totally conclusive has yet surfaced. Your certainty is merely a result of your religious beliefs.
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: TravisT
Exactly, likewise for you... just in the opposite direction.
No, the available evidence is leaning to the direction of it not being a choice, the exavct mechanism(s) are still largely unknown. However nothing totally conclusive has yet surfaced. Your certainty is merely a result of your religious beliefs.
Double standard again... apparently it's okay for you to throw your beliefs on me as fact, but its not okay for me to claim my beliefs as fact. As you said, there is nothing totally conclusive, which is why I am okay with agreeing with the idea that is my belief that homosexuality is a lifestyle, not a genetic defect. Why don't you follow your own rules here and claim that it is your belief as well so we can get passed this and get back to the topic?
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Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: TravisT
Exactly, likewise for you... just in the opposite direction.
No, the available evidence is leaning to the direction of it not being a choice, the exavct mechanism(s) are still largely unknown. However nothing totally conclusive has yet surfaced. Your certainty is merely a result of your religious beliefs.
Double standard again... apparently it's okay for you to throw your beliefs on me as fact, but its not okay for me to claim my beliefs as fact. As you said, there is nothing totally conclusive, which is why I am okay with agreeing with the idea that is my belief that homosexuality is a lifestyle, not a genetic defect. Why don't you follow your own rules here and claim that it is your belief as well so we can get passed this and get back to the topic?
I at least admit the possibility of my opinion (based on the available evidence/studies) being incorrect. That is nothing like your dogmatic stand on the issue.
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: TravisT
Exactly, likewise for you... just in the opposite direction.
No, the available evidence is leaning to the direction of it not being a choice, the exavct mechanism(s) are still largely unknown. However nothing totally conclusive has yet surfaced. Your certainty is merely a result of your religious beliefs.
Double standard again... apparently it's okay for you to throw your beliefs on me as fact, but its not okay for me to claim my beliefs as fact. As you said, there is nothing totally conclusive, which is why I am okay with agreeing with the idea that is my belief that homosexuality is a lifestyle, not a genetic defect. Why don't you follow your own rules here and claim that it is your belief as well so we can get passed this and get back to the topic?
I at least admit the possibility of my opinion (based on the available evidence/studies) being incorrect. That is nothing like your dogmatic stand on the issue.
Where do you get that i have a dogmatic stand? It was clear that I fully admitted and agreed to the fact that it was my belief. And to top it off, you probably have a very innaccurate view of what my opinion is on the issue. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this.
Exactly! Think how much better off we would all be if we were all abused as children! We would hate ourselves, and torment animals. But we wouldn't be gay! And isn't that whats most important?
/sarcasm
If it's not a big deal then why so much hate and discrimination towards them???
Why is that hate and discrimination OK in the U.S.?
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this is getting ridiculous. penguins (if anyone has watched that documentry, the march of the penguins) often take turns taking care of their young. often, males will take care of the baby for weeks while the female goes to find food. because of this, i don't find it that "enraging".
It all makes sense now, march of the penguins, this book, and happy feet (happy is just a synonym for gay!) the gay penguin agenda is real and its invading our homes!! We need to stop it before our children become gay penguins!!
FelixDeCat
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This is the main reason why no one listens to what the Gay lobby has to say.
A lack of knowledge of biological science, coupled with raucous emotionalism and mixed with unfounded hypotheses, gives rise to such idiocy. These groups keep anthropomorphizing animals, and then draw foolish conclusions based on this. I call this the Disneyfying effect. Take a group of animals and ascribe to them human emotions, ideas, drives and behaviours and then pretend that their lives are identical to ours. That they all live happily together in the forest holding hands and singing songs. The real world isn't like that, and its time people grasped this.
In a pond in spring time, the male toads call to female toads to join them in the pond for reproduction. The males will often latch on to any toad or object that gets within reach of them. 2 male toads doing this doesn't make them gay. Only an idiot believes that nonsense. The heterosexual reproductive drive is responsible for this behaviour in all animals.
Alright, mister ethologist/comparative psychologist, show me a study that supports that heterosexual reproductive drive is the sole cause of same-sex mounting behavior. It has nothing to do with anthropomorphic views. Same-sex behavior (mounting and non-mounting) has been shown in a variety of animals.
1.) Shine et al. (2000) Female mimicry in gartersnakes: behavioural tactics of 'she-males' and the males that court them. Canadian Journal of Zoology
2.) Vasey, P.L. (2002) Sexual Partner Preference in Female Japanese Macaques. Archives of Sexual Behavior
3.) Harari, AR (2000) Intrasexual mounting in the beetle Diaprepes abbreviatus. Proceeding of the Royal Society
4.) Bertran et al. (2003) Male-male mountings in polyandrous bearded vultures Gypaetus barbatus: an unusual behaviour in raptors. Journal of Avian Biology
5.) Bagemihl, B. (1999) Biological Exuberance, Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity. Profile Books
6.) Vasey et al. (2000) Skewed Sex Ratios and Female Homosexual Activity in Japanese Macaques: An Experimental Analysis. Primates
7. Adkins-Regan & Krakauer (2000) Removal of adult males from rearing environment increases preference for same-sex partners in the zebra finch.
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I answered your question. Heterosexual reproductive drive is responsible for this.
Any studies claiming these activities to be proof of being gay are without merit and are only for political and/or idealogical gain.
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