Never said anything in this topic so far but considering you are just as fundamentalist as the other side you have no validity to try and pass yourself off as like one of the "logical crowd per se' since you are not some bystander.
You know what you may be right... My views may not be logicial...
As I see it I have this idea that is fundamental to my view of the world...
Any expressive medium that humans produce (be it music, movies, paintings drawings dance and including video games) can be considered art. Especially if thereis something about it that affects the person who is viewing, listening to, or playing it.
For example when Sephiroth killed Aeris in FFVII, a lot of people have said they were very much affected by that part of the video game.
As far as art goes every form of art as far as I can tell to one degree or another has met with criticism... it seems to be some weird litmus test that people collectively apply to "art" to see if it is really "art"
Because of that I do believe that since video games falls into that category that fundamentally video games will inevitably to be the subject of criticism.
Whether or not we like it, there will be people who will level that criticism at something that I do spend a fair (ok maybe a lot) of time doing.
Hell, I might even partially agree with some of their points... as an example I do notice that some armor items that look one way on a male character does somehow look a bit more interesting when it is on a female character.
Maybe it's just not logical to say that since feminists have leveled criticism at movies and music in particular for violence or misogyny or sexism and that their criticisms hasn't affected the genres of movies or music that the public can watch or listen to (in other words that violent, "sexist" movies and explicit music is still very much available); that criticisms leveled at video-games by different groups including feminists won't stop development of violent games or stop the appearance of sexy female avatars in games...
But you know judging from the previous examples of controversies on other mediums of art... I don't think feminists are the concern that some people say they are.... I'll even draw the conclusion (flawed though my logic may be) that since criticisms of movies or music has not led to widespread censorship of either in the name of "equality" that similar criticisms leveled at videogames won't bring widespread censorship of those either....
I think the above conclusion is a safe one to have even though there are wacky extreme examples of feminists just as there are wacky extreme examples of gamergate supporters...
Especially that one guy who allegedly stole his mother's Prius and crashed it on his way to street race Brianna Wu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYPC-YMdJFI
Either that or he's on a different level sort of like an Andy Kauffman of youtube.
*e2a*
I do think that gamergate has done something worthwhile... publications that didn't have a code of conduct for it's employees now have adopted them and others that did have apparently revised them.
Here is an imo very good (although lengthy) blog post by a neutral that explains how he thinks #gamergate and all of the hullaballoo around it blew up...
A ‘Neutral’ Mansplains Gamergate, Social Justice and Radical Feminism
I pretty much share about all of his views.
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