#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

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Jodell88

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Hehe

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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Um, no. One side (the gamers) is saying "Some games should cater to me, for I am legion". The other side (the non-gamers) is saying "No games should cater to you, for your very existence offends me." The ethics in journalism (to the extent that applies) is about whether the non-gamers should be allowed to silence the gamers because some of the gamers are not at all nice.

Even the gamergate people don't say that's what their ethics in journalism crap is about.

No thanks for exchanging one hilariously stupid and paranoid idea about journalism for another.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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The author is potentially making an interesting point, but what he's missing with the Guybrush example is that the idea for the character is turning a benign (partly because it's totally outdated, partly because it's not offensive, and partly because the Guybrush character doesn't advocate anything particularly dodgy, right off the top of my head) stereotype on its head and that's where the amusement comes from.

Now try picking a benign stereotype (see which ways I previously referred to in brackets in the previous paragraph) of a female character to derive amusement from in some way. Good luck with that. It's not because some people are offended by anything that stereotypes women, it's because pretty much every lingering female stereotype is either a direct negative stereotype of women or it's based on one!

Back to the quoted text - Guybrush needs help from Elaine Marley in Monkey Island 1. His ineptitude is generally considered amusing because guys aren't meant to be like that (it is in fact reinforcing a positive male stereotype). The fact that he needed help from Elaine in MI1 reinforces that, and involves a positive female stereotype (which again could be playing on stereotypes but the game doesn't push that point, to members of the audience can come to their own conclusions on that point). In terms of devising inoffensive characters, it's pretty much perfect.

Now reverse the roles and result in Gailbrush, exactly as the author described her. You're immediately reinforcing a negative, well-trodden stereotype of women, and a character who needs saving by a man, which again is the same old well-trodden stereotype which only an idiot is unable to empathise with the reasons why many people would it offensive (or more specifically how common it - and related negative stereotypes regarding women - are in gaming).

Now turn the whole example on its head, Gailbrush, the totally capable female character who sails the seas of male ineptitude (which would potentially be amusing because just like the Guybrush example, it plays with the audience's expectations and it's not reinforcing an existing negative stereotype of men). It's not original by any stretch of the imagination, but I bet it would have lots of people in this forum out in hives because "the feminists are taking over".

The author does approach an interesting and valid point IMO but fails to actually connect - Sidney Poitier's acting role choices spring to mind here, and here's a quote from Wikipedia:

Wikipedia said:
Poitier began to be criticized for being typecast as over-idealized African American characters who were not permitted to have any sexuality or personality faults, such as his character in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner. Poitier was aware of this pattern himself, but was conflicted on the matter: he wanted more varied roles, but also felt obliged to set a good example with his characters to defy previous stereotypes, as he was the only major actor of African descent in the American film industry at the time.

IMO, Western media needs to work on including more aspirational female characters, suggesting things like "intelligence is good", "you can have physical prowess without being considered manly", and "good looks shouldn't be the end of your rainbow". Poitier obviously felt that ethnic minorities could do with some aspirational characters too. Once you have a bit more balance, more multi-faceted and flawed characters follow, because, to put it simply, Superman is boring as he doesn't have any flaws, and a Superman-only diet gets old fast.
 
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Nebor

Lifer
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IMO, Western media needs to work on including more aspirational female characters, suggesting things like "intelligence is good", "you can have physical prowess without being considered manly", and "good looks shouldn't be the end of your rainbow". Poitier obviously felt that ethnic minorities could do with some aspirational characters too. Once you have a bit more balance, more multi-faceted and flawed characters follow, because, to put it simply, Superman is boring as he doesn't have any flaws, and a Superman-only diet gets old fast.

Maybe Western women need to work on being more inspirational.
 

Jodell88

Diamond Member
Jan 29, 2007
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The author is potentially making an interesting point, but what he's missing with the Guybrush example is that the idea for the character is turning a benign (partly because it's totally outdated, partly because it's not offensive, and partly because the Guybrush character doesn't advocate anything particularly dodgy, right off the top of my head) stereotype on its head and that's where the amusement comes from.

Now try picking a benign stereotype (see which ways I previously referred to in brackets in the previous paragraph) of a female character to derive amusement from in some way. Good luck with that. It's not because some people are offended by anything that stereotypes women, it's because pretty much every lingering female stereotype is either a direct negative stereotype of women or it's based on one!

Back to the quoted text - Guybrush needs help from Elaine Marley in Monkey Island 1. His ineptitude is generally considered amusing because guys aren't meant to be like that (it is in fact reinforcing a positive male stereotype). The fact that he needed help from Elaine in MI1 reinforces that, and involves a positive female stereotype (which again could be playing on stereotypes but the game doesn't push that point, to members of the audience can come to their own conclusions on that point). In terms of devising inoffensive characters, it's pretty much perfect.

Now reverse the roles and result in Gailbrush, exactly as the author described her. You're immediately reinforcing a negative, well-trodden stereotype of women, and a character who needs saving by a man, which again is the same old well-trodden stereotype which only an idiot is unable to empathise with the reasons why many people would it offensive (or more specifically how common it - and related negative stereotypes regarding women - are in gaming).

Now turn the whole example on its head, Gailbrush, the totally capable female character who sails the seas of male ineptitude (which would potentially be amusing because just like the Guybrush example, it plays with the audience's expectations and it's not reinforcing an existing negative stereotype of men). It's not original by any stretch of the imagination, but I bet it would have lots of people in this forum out in hives because "the feminists are taking over".

The author does approach an interesting and valid point IMO but fails to actually connect - Sidney Poitier's acting role choices spring to mind here, and here's a quote from Wikipedia:



IMO, Western media needs to work on including more aspirational female characters, suggesting things like "intelligence is good", "you can have physical prowess without being considered manly", and "good looks shouldn't be the end of your rainbow". Poitier obviously felt that ethnic minorities could do with some aspirational characters too. Once you have a bit more balance, more multi-faceted and flawed characters follow, because, to put it simply, Superman is boring as he doesn't have any flaws, and a Superman-only diet gets old fast.
You make good points, but honestly if we're gonna have cookie cutter female characters then why bother? Make no mistake, the more diversity in games the better, but if we can't put females in the same situations as men (good and bad) then I consider it a failure.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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You make good points, but honestly if we're gonna have cookie cutter female characters then why bother? Make no mistake, the more diversity in games the better, but if we can't put females in the same situations as men (good and bad) then I consider it a failure.

It's a start, that was part of my point. If game plot designers can successfully make cardboard-cutout female characters without screwing up in some awful stereotypical way, then at some point they can develop those characters beyond that.
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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The author is potentially making an interesting point, but what he's missing with the Guybrush example is that the idea for the character is turning a benign (partly because it's totally outdated, partly because it's not offensive, and partly because the Guybrush character doesn't advocate anything particularly dodgy, right off the top of my head) stereotype on its head and that's where the amusement comes from.

Now try picking a benign stereotype (see which ways I previously referred to in brackets in the previous paragraph) of a female character to derive amusement from in some way. Good luck with that. It's not because some people are offended by anything that stereotypes women, it's because pretty much every lingering female stereotype is either a direct negative stereotype of women or it's based on one!

Back to the quoted text - Guybrush needs help from Elaine Marley in Monkey Island 1. His ineptitude is generally considered amusing because guys aren't meant to be like that (it is in fact reinforcing a positive male stereotype). The fact that he needed help from Elaine in MI1 reinforces that, and involves a positive female stereotype (which again could be playing on stereotypes but the game doesn't push that point, to members of the audience can come to their own conclusions on that point). In terms of devising inoffensive characters, it's pretty much perfect.

Now reverse the roles and result in Gailbrush, exactly as the author described her. You're immediately reinforcing a negative, well-trodden stereotype of women, and a character who needs saving by a man, which again is the same old well-trodden stereotype which only an idiot is unable to empathise with the reasons why many people would it offensive (or more specifically how common it - and related negative stereotypes regarding women - are in gaming).

Now turn the whole example on its head, Gailbrush, the totally capable female character who sails the seas of male ineptitude (which would potentially be amusing because just like the Guybrush example, it plays with the audience's expectations and it's not reinforcing an existing negative stereotype of men). It's not original by any stretch of the imagination, but I bet it would have lots of people in this forum out in hives because "the feminists are taking over".

The author does approach an interesting and valid point IMO but fails to actually connect - Sidney Poitier's acting role choices spring to mind here, and here's a quote from Wikipedia:



IMO, Western media needs to work on including more aspirational female characters, suggesting things like "intelligence is good", "you can have physical prowess without being considered manly", and "good looks shouldn't be the end of your rainbow". Poitier obviously felt that ethnic minorities could do with some aspirational characters too. Once you have a bit more balance, more multi-faceted and flawed characters follow, because, to put it simply, Superman is boring as he doesn't have any flaws, and a Superman-only diet gets old fast.
You're making the author's point, dude.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
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25 benefits of being a female while gaming
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d6nRUBKdB4

Social Justice Weasels
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhmOx0zThGg

And of course that 25 benefits video just failed to mention just who those people were..
"Cronjob
5 days ago (edited)

LIST OF GUYS APPEARING IN THE VIDEO
- Chris Remo - Composer (Gone Home, Spacebase DF-9)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Nick Breckon - Writer (The Walking Dead game)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Jake Rodkin - Indie dev (Firewatch)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Sean Vanaman - Indie dev (Firewatch)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Mitch Dyer - IGN editor
- Brian Altano - IGN executive director
- Tom Mc Shea - Journalist (IGN)
- Greg Miller - Journalist (IGN)
- Kevin VanOrd - Journalist (GameSpot)
- Arthus Gies - Polygon editor
- Tim Schafer - Founder of Double Fine
- Adam Sessler - Journalist (TheoryHead/Rev3Games)
- Ryan O'Donnell - Film maker (Area 5)
- Cesar Quintero - Film maker (Area 5)
- Scott Anderson - Indie dev (Shadow Physics)
- Matt Boch - Indie dev (Fantasia)/writer (A City Sleeps)
- Matt Chandronait - Film maker (Area 5)
- Matt Conn - Founder of GaymerX
- David Hellman - Artist (Braid)
- Jonathan Mann - YouTuber (SongADay)
- Jon McElroy - Indie dev (Funomena)
- Pierre Shorette - Writer (Telltale)
- Imran Siddiquee - Journalist (The Rep Project/freelance?)
- Dan Tennery-Spalding - Educator (Teachrdan)"

Not exactly a random or representative selection of anything. And failure to clearly disclose, frankly one of the major issues gamergate is about.


Brianna Wu probably lied about "fleeing" her home.
OgPnsyz.jpg

http://theralphretort.com/did-deceitful-brianna-wu-pull-biggest-con/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GamerGaters#announcements/detail/215375720898029445


Take-Two CEO on GTA V vs Target Australia: "Don't like it? Don't buy it"
by MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Ur82SkoIA
https://www.change.org/p/target-wit...ders-to-commit-sexual-violence-and-kill-women
https://www.change.org/p/change-org...al-group-institution-either-public-or-private
http://techraptor.net/content/kmart-follows-target-removing-gta-v-sale
https://www.change.org/p/ea-games-remove-anita-sarkeesian-from-mirror-s-edge-2-game-development

#GamerGate: Porn Star Mercedes Carrera's Cam Show Charity Donations Declined!
David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0C40JON-Q


#GamerGate Happenings Recap with Socks 10/12
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gz7Yimh-jc




Ban the Bible, or GTA5?
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iuJwOeRfo


Feminist WARS: The FARCE awakens
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6tD_RxtoY0


RE "25 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Male"
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQhWEOaQ-Fg

B4TzYVNIMAA564s.png:large

B4KnLTwCIAEU58G.png:large

And social justice hypocrisy(he's referring to Christopher Hitchens)
https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/539741657709969408
B32MLTDCAAAKNzR.png:large

Wctiwjj.jpg



FTW - Gawker admits #GamerGate cost them "seven figures" in ad revenue!
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iNxCNNsZfk
https://archive.today/J41zZ
And some additional pain for gawker from the hulkster, well deserved
http://theralphretort.com/hulk-hogan-laughs-as-insurance-company-turns-on-gawker/
hogan1.jpg



WTF - Pleb Comics loses her job after SJW's doxx her and contact her employer
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doe6omL08bY


Roguestar, SJW's, and the battle for Patreon
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RerUGtoJP20


Totalbiscuit wins an award, and some lose their spaghetti (#thegameawards)
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKxbuMw8wE
n6BX8sr.png


B4Xdi0dIMAAwr6L.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/539741657709969408



TjrPOQ7.jpg

Threedog's #Gamergate News Radio Ep 12 w/ Special Guest Elly Prizeman
Oliver Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQS7hw1W_mg


Anon academic writes up sarkeesian
Behind the Patina of Anita Sarkeesian: Gleanings of feminist victim politics.
http://gamergate.me/2014/12/behind-the-patina-sarkeesian/

Giant Sarkeesian Nostrils, San Franciscan Smug Fart smellers, #GamerGate & #NotYourShield
Liberal Lunacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BooFhr8sqqc&feature=youtu.be&a

Nepotism
B3qZIHbIcAAKI2t.png:large


Ask A Dev 3
Bro Team Pill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwgaiwlO3A



Jennifer Dawe Interview
maxskyfan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbQsfgk5Rk

And christ... https://twitter.com/RogueStarGamez suspended again

Leigh Alexander enjoying her victimhood on a tropical island apparently.
https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/542286456795201536

and a window into the mind of these people.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/10/The-Madness-Of-Queen-Shanley
 
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Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
22,994
779
126
25 benefits of being a female while gaming
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d6nRUBKdB4

Social Justice Weasels
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhmOx0zThGg

And of course that 25 benefits video just failed to mention just who those people were..
"Cronjob
5 days ago (edited)

LIST OF GUYS APPEARING IN THE VIDEO
- Chris Remo - Composer (Gone Home, Spacebase DF-9)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Nick Breckon - Writer (The Walking Dead game)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Jake Rodkin - Indie dev (Firewatch)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Sean Vanaman - Indie dev (Firewatch)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Mitch Dyer - IGN editor
- Brian Altano - IGN executive director
- Tom Mc Shea - Journalist (IGN)
- Greg Miller - Journalist (IGN)
- Kevin VanOrd - Journalist (GameSpot)
- Arthus Gies - Polygon editor
- Tim Schafer - Founder of Double Fine
- Adam Sessler - Journalist (TheoryHead/Rev3Games)
- Ryan O'Donnell - Film maker (Area 5)
- Cesar Quintero - Film maker (Area 5)
- Scott Anderson - Indie dev (Shadow Physics)
- Matt Boch - Indie dev (Fantasia)/writer (A City Sleeps)
- Matt Chandronait - Film maker (Area 5)
- Matt Conn - Founder of GaymerX
- David Hellman - Artist (Braid)
- Jonathan Mann - YouTuber (SongADay)
- Jon McElroy - Indie dev (Funomena)
- Pierre Shorette - Writer (Telltale)
- Imran Siddiquee - Journalist (The Rep Project/freelance?)
- Dan Tennery-Spalding - Educator (Teachrdan)"

Not exactly a random or representative selection of anything. And failure to clearly disclose, frankly one of the major issues gamergate is about.


Brianna Wu probably lied about "fleeing" her home.
OgPnsyz.jpg

http://theralphretort.com/did-deceitful-brianna-wu-pull-biggest-con/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GamerGaters#announcements/detail/215375720898029445


Take-Two CEO on GTA V vs Target Australia: "Don't like it? Don't buy it"
by MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Ur82SkoIA
https://www.change.org/p/target-wit...ders-to-commit-sexual-violence-and-kill-women
https://www.change.org/p/change-org...al-group-institution-either-public-or-private
http://techraptor.net/content/kmart-follows-target-removing-gta-v-sale
https://www.change.org/p/ea-games-remove-anita-sarkeesian-from-mirror-s-edge-2-game-development

#GamerGate: Porn Star Mercedes Carrera's Cam Show Charity Donations Declined!
David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0C40JON-Q


#GamerGate Happenings Recap with Socks 10/12
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gz7Yimh-jc




Ban the Bible, or GTA5?
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iuJwOeRfo


Feminist WARS: The FARCE awakens
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6tD_RxtoY0


RE "25 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Male"
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQhWEOaQ-Fg

B4TzYVNIMAA564s.png:large

B4KnLTwCIAEU58G.png:large

And social justice hypocrisy(he's referring to Christopher Hitchens)
https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/539741657709969408
B32MLTDCAAAKNzR.png:large

Wctiwjj.jpg



FTW - Gawker admits #GamerGate cost them "seven figures" in ad revenue!
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iNxCNNsZfk
https://archive.today/J41zZ
And some additional pain for gawker from the hulkster, well deserved
http://theralphretort.com/hulk-hogan-laughs-as-insurance-company-turns-on-gawker/
hogan1.jpg



WTF - Pleb Comics loses her job after SJW's doxx her and contact her employer
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doe6omL08bY


Roguestar, SJW's, and the battle for Patreon
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RerUGtoJP20


Totalbiscuit wins an award, and some lose their spaghetti (#thegameawards)
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKxbuMw8wE
n6BX8sr.png


B4Xdi0dIMAAwr6L.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/539741657709969408



TjrPOQ7.jpg

Threedog's #Gamergate News Radio Ep 12 w/ Special Guest Elly Prizeman
Oliver Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQS7hw1W_mg


Anon academic writes up sarkeesian
Behind the Patina of Anita Sarkeesian: Gleanings of feminist victim politics.
http://gamergate.me/2014/12/behind-the-patina-sarkeesian/

Giant Sarkeesian Nostrils, San Franciscan Smug Fart smellers, #GamerGate & #NotYourShield
Liberal Lunacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BooFhr8sqqc&feature=youtu.be&a

Nepotism
B3qZIHbIcAAKI2t.png:large


Ask A Dev 3
Bro Team Pill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwgaiwlO3A



Jennifer Dawe Interview
maxskyfan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbQsfgk5Rk

And christ... https://twitter.com/RogueStarGamez suspended again

Leigh Alexander enjoying her victimhood on a tropical island apparently.
https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/542286456795201536

and a window into the mind of these people.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/10/The-Madness-Of-Queen-Shanley

You should join the rest of us at reddit.com/r/kotakuInAction
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
20,907
16,161
136
Umm given the number of people commenting on what ALL gamers think, I dont believe either side is making any progress.

I wasn't making a point about feminists or gamers; I was merely trying to point out to Nebor that sweeping generalisations regarding a multitude of people almost invariably turn out to be inaccurate, unless one's aim is to make the most trivial of points possible (e.g. "coloured people are coloured").
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
So there you go, they've taken on another target already... heavy metal?

xW3br1L.jpg

https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/543756714714361857


The Problem With Heavy Metal Is Metalheads
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vou_0RW5T5g

These people are insidious.


Sun News: #GamerGate vs Radical Feminists
Video Game Journalism (YTheAlien)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQK7lc-O6Y


Why Gamers Had To Die: Part 1 - Games Don't Need Diversity
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5a5IgbuYk


The Al-Jazeera #GamerGate Debate
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHClhNgkFig
http://theralphretort.com/hapless-arthur-chu-wam-idiot-get-destroyed-debate/


RE: Why I'm Ok With Doxing (video response to Rebecca Watson)
MundaneMatt
https://archive.today/M4d4f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkRqXUdmkLk





Proof that Brianna Wu did not leave her home could be damaging for the media
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuoQL3m7yJI


15 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Goyim
SkepTorr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCXknK6PZp0
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
35,704
10,014
136
It takes a LONG read to get a grasp of what the topic is.

The Left is flocking towards extremism in some witch hunt for the misogynistic white male... cute. I'll be the first to castrate a man who treats women wrong, but we're bearing witness to full on crazies involved in some zealous movement towards mythical "purity".

Even has a number of usual partisan supporters here. How quaint. Can the topic be drawn on party lines then? P&N would love that... we try so very hard to fit everything into our own little box. The paradigm of Democrat and Republican posters.

Is that it then, we've nothing to discuss but mad ravings towards our usual opponent? The notion of boycotts and taking the discussion both into the extreme and material world seems interesting. I need to read up further on just how far this has gone. Posters make it sound like full fledged war is being waged.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
32,589
51,953
136
25 benefits of being a female while gaming
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d6nRUBKdB4

Social Justice Weasels
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhmOx0zThGg

And of course that 25 benefits video just failed to mention just who those people were..
"Cronjob
5 days ago (edited)

LIST OF GUYS APPEARING IN THE VIDEO
- Chris Remo - Composer (Gone Home, Spacebase DF-9)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Nick Breckon - Writer (The Walking Dead game)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Jake Rodkin - Indie dev (Firewatch)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Sean Vanaman - Indie dev (Firewatch)/Idle Thumbs podcast
- Mitch Dyer - IGN editor
- Brian Altano - IGN executive director
- Tom Mc Shea - Journalist (IGN)
- Greg Miller - Journalist (IGN)
- Kevin VanOrd - Journalist (GameSpot)
- Arthus Gies - Polygon editor
- Tim Schafer - Founder of Double Fine
- Adam Sessler - Journalist (TheoryHead/Rev3Games)
- Ryan O'Donnell - Film maker (Area 5)
- Cesar Quintero - Film maker (Area 5)
- Scott Anderson - Indie dev (Shadow Physics)
- Matt Boch - Indie dev (Fantasia)/writer (A City Sleeps)
- Matt Chandronait - Film maker (Area 5)
- Matt Conn - Founder of GaymerX
- David Hellman - Artist (Braid)
- Jonathan Mann - YouTuber (SongADay)
- Jon McElroy - Indie dev (Funomena)
- Pierre Shorette - Writer (Telltale)
- Imran Siddiquee - Journalist (The Rep Project/freelance?)
- Dan Tennery-Spalding - Educator (Teachrdan)"

Not exactly a random or representative selection of anything. And failure to clearly disclose, frankly one of the major issues gamergate is about.


Brianna Wu probably lied about "fleeing" her home.
OgPnsyz.jpg

http://theralphretort.com/did-deceitful-brianna-wu-pull-biggest-con/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GamerGaters#announcements/detail/215375720898029445


Take-Two CEO on GTA V vs Target Australia: "Don't like it? Don't buy it"
by MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Ur82SkoIA
https://www.change.org/p/target-wit...ders-to-commit-sexual-violence-and-kill-women
https://www.change.org/p/change-org...al-group-institution-either-public-or-private
http://techraptor.net/content/kmart-follows-target-removing-gta-v-sale
https://www.change.org/p/ea-games-remove-anita-sarkeesian-from-mirror-s-edge-2-game-development

#GamerGate: Porn Star Mercedes Carrera's Cam Show Charity Donations Declined!
David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0C40JON-Q


#GamerGate Happenings Recap with Socks 10/12
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gz7Yimh-jc




Ban the Bible, or GTA5?
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iuJwOeRfo


Feminist WARS: The FARCE awakens
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6tD_RxtoY0


RE "25 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Male"
Thunderf00t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQhWEOaQ-Fg

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And social justice hypocrisy(he's referring to Christopher Hitchens)
https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/539741657709969408
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FTW - Gawker admits #GamerGate cost them "seven figures" in ad revenue!
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iNxCNNsZfk
https://archive.today/J41zZ
And some additional pain for gawker from the hulkster, well deserved
http://theralphretort.com/hulk-hogan-laughs-as-insurance-company-turns-on-gawker/
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WTF - Pleb Comics loses her job after SJW's doxx her and contact her employer
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doe6omL08bY


Roguestar, SJW's, and the battle for Patreon
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RerUGtoJP20


Totalbiscuit wins an award, and some lose their spaghetti (#thegameawards)
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKxbuMw8wE
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https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/539741657709969408



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Threedog's #Gamergate News Radio Ep 12 w/ Special Guest Elly Prizeman
Oliver Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQS7hw1W_mg


Anon academic writes up sarkeesian
Behind the Patina of Anita Sarkeesian: Gleanings of feminist victim politics.
http://gamergate.me/2014/12/behind-the-patina-sarkeesian/

Giant Sarkeesian Nostrils, San Franciscan Smug Fart smellers, #GamerGate & #NotYourShield
Liberal Lunacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BooFhr8sqqc&feature=youtu.be&a

Nepotism
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Ask A Dev 3
Bro Team Pill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwgaiwlO3A



Jennifer Dawe Interview
maxskyfan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbQsfgk5Rk

And christ... https://twitter.com/RogueStarGamez suspended again

Leigh Alexander enjoying her victimhood on a tropical island apparently.
https://twitter.com/setfiresfeeljoy/status/542286456795201536

and a window into the mind of these people.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/10/The-Madness-Of-Queen-Shanley

that's a whole lotta who the hell cares
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Wikipedia is kill
https://twitter.com/infamousglasses/status/546039925024387072
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http://theralphretort.com/jimmy-wales-picks-wrong-side-122114/
https://twitter.com/theLEOpirate/status/546068819483979776
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http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2pzk5e/observations_on_ryulong/

Aljazerra is kill
Original debate where Gamergate people trashed the anti's was too inconvenient...
https://archive.today/WKdO7
replaced with smear article
https://archive.today/Adhvp
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https://twitter.com/Erza_Violet/status/546134413973524482
The Al-Jazeera #GamerGate Debate
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHClhNgkFig


Attacking 8chan and others through patreon
#GamerGate Reacts!: Censorship all around, with: Hotwheels, and TheRalphRetort
zan denkl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACihT9HILFA
Any reason
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Which may backfire on many of these people, since they have no limits on their personal behavior
https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546913096032206848
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Why Gamers Had To Die: Part 1 - Games Don't Need Diversity
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5a5IgbuYk

Why Gamers Had To Die: Part 2 - The Industry Must Change For Diversity
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOt-YZ_i0Fk



Is Anti-#GamerGate really just Anti-Gamer?
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5MX7e0dm4s



Video Game Censorship in the 21st Century? - Frank Gamer
Frank Gamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-BzuUcXWxU

Interesting how these people have flipped.
Here's Leigh Alexanders defense of GTA back in the day...
Anti-Feministing: Debunking The Argument Against GTA IV
https://archive.today/GT5ne
http://theralphretort.com/dog-abuser-randi-harper-also-appears-former-anti-feminist/



Was Brianna Wu Really Forced to Leave Her Home?
MsShadowPaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=komoXHtefn4

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http://theralphretort.com/quoted-anita-sarkeesian-insults-japan-jokes-about-atomic-bombing-121714/
“The US bombed them back to traditional values – feminism does not exist in Japan. While I don’t like judging an entire culture…that does not excuse them.”
Anita Sarkeesian Insults Japanese Culture
jordanowen42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vqNbVsBcA

http://theralphretort.com/brianna-wu-exposed-theralphretort-com/
http://theralphretort.com/brianna-wu-randi-harper-started-pathetic-act-before-gamergate/


#GamerGate Discussion on TheRalphRetort LIVE, w/ Mercedes Carrera
The Ralph Retort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C13fbXQ72Qw


Thank you for helping me out + Here is what gamergate 2014 has done
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKLEpaEOblg

And a good article on this
‘ANTI-GAMERGATE’ AND THE PARADOX OF ‘CULTURAL POPULISM’
http://gamergate.me/2014/12/cultural-populism/

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0roo0roo

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Atheists? Goddamned "unbelievers"...
https://twitter.com/ThisDamnJelly/status/545063442504495104
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https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/547213082024767489
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Euro gamer still pulling the same nonsense as ever...
final fantasy cid is now a female, and they still need to find a way to complain....
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Was Brianna Wu Really Forced to Leave Her Home?
MsShadowPaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=komoXHtefn4
http://theralphretort.com/brianna-wu-exposed-theralphretort-com/
http://theralphretort.com/brianna-wu-randi-harper-started-pathetic-act-before-gamergate/



25 men bullshitting about male privilege | part 1
karen straughan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAF2UmyXe-4
 
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cubby1223

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Ooh, I've had that happen to me on this forum! Except the person didn't realize my employer was actually proud of my comments :D

As for the rest of gamergate, I honestly am lost with what it currently is, beyond two groups of people who use the internet to fight against each other...
 

Subyman

Moderator <br> VC&G Forum
Mar 18, 2005
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Wait, Metalgate? Really? This is awesome. Wordpress has turned every horn-rimmed loser into a social "journalist". Can't wait for them to start taking on nature for making a banana too phallic.
 

berzerker60

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It's really stunning the tizzy that crazy internet people can get worked up into over complete non-issues.

I'm so sorry people might say mean things about your flashing light Skinner boxes. Truly the cruelest burden anyone has ever borne.