#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

[brycejones]

You know, I can't tell if you're this temperamental or just a troll. You talk about women hate here but you've posted some of the most misogynistic shit I've seen on this forum. Then there's that thread you made cheering the increase of atheism in America when it wasn't very long ago you were heavily arguing Young Earth Creationism.

I long ago decided to go with trolling and ignore Nebor.

 

[Blue_Max]

I long ago decided to go with trolling and ignore Nebor.

...because opposing points of view are "trolling" and can, thus, be ignored completely.

 

[Exophase]

Is it bad that I also came to check it out after the show aired? Although, one thing did stick out like a sore thumb during that segment: the harassment statistic infographic. It was the one that was something like less than 1% of men and more than 90% of women are sexually harassed online. What I thought was interesting was that the segment was on online harassment, but the graphic specifically spelled out "sexual harassment". The idea seemed to be to show a disparaging gap in the treatment of women online, but what it just did was marginalize any other form of harassment.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I care enough to actually look up non-specific harassment statistics, but given my long tenure on the Internet, I'd be willing to bet that they're quite a bit closer. Anyway, I wonder if this goes back to how we tend to stereotype the sexes. At least in my experience, men are usually expected to be tougher. We aren't supposed to worry as much or be as emotional. Do we tend to ignore unkind things said toward men because it's "okay"? In turn, does our focus on harassment against women relate to our nature to protect women?

Oh, and just because people love to read way too far into anything said on the Internet, which is really the root of a lot of problems, I should probably say that I am in no way condoning harassment in any kind against anyone.

There's some conflation between sexual harassment online which is probably mostly "hey can i see ur tits lol" and stuff of the "i know you live at ____ and i'm going to fucking murder you in ur sleep ur dead wise and beautiful woman" sort. It's not surprising that the former is going to be directed almost exclusively at women, socially both men and women are taught that men need to take any kind of initiative in showing sexual interest and that's going to include some really shitty initiatives. But I don't think these people are doing it just to hurt women, because even if they know it's not effective for most of them it inevitably is effective for some, ie there's tons of videos of people getting random women to undress on Omegle. The people doing this are desperate. So they just spam everyone who might be a woman.

The study I read showing vast amounts of sexual harassment on IRC didn't say what criteria they used for harassment and didn't say how much of it came from the same users. If you go on IRC and someone messages you something rude/offensive it's easy to just /ignore them.

Like with any claims of sexism I ask myself how it'd be treated in a gender-swapped scenario. If men were regularly getting "can i see ur dick" messages from anonymous women online would they find it as egregious? Would it even rise to the level of being considered sexual harassment?

 

[BoberFett]

N/M

 

[Bitek]

Rainbow flags going up, confederate flags coming down.
What a historic week last week. But the one thing that hadn't changed....

This thread is still gay.

 

[DrDoug]

Rainbow flags going up, confederate flags coming down.
What a historic week last week. But the one thing that hadn't changed....

This thread is still gay.

What this thread needs is a big gay rainbow-colored nuclear mushroom cloud with a rainbow arching over in the background.

And unicorns!

 

[zinfamous]

Rainbow flags going up, confederate flags coming down.
What a historic week last week. But the one thing that hadn't changed....

This thread is still gay.

lol!

 

[Victorian Gray]

closest I could find. Still seems appropriate:

 

[ctbaars]

NYC just had a little pony convention. Did anyone go?
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...p-into-brooklyn-for-my-little-pony-convention

 

[brycejones]

...because opposing points of view are "trolling" and can, thus, be ignored completely.

Oh, a picture.

Take a look at the post I was responding to and I'm sure you can figure out the reason for my comment.

I think Nebor just likes to stir the pot. You however I think are a true believer so not a troll.

 

[0roo0roo]

Wasn't going to post today, but things are boiling over...

[Updated]Developing: Popular Reddit sub r/IamA, Others Go Private
http://techraptor.net/content/developing-popular-reddit-sub-riama-others-goes-private

REDDIT SUBS SHUT DOWN TO PROTEST…REDDIT
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/07/reddit-subs-shut-down-to-protest-reddit/

Main subreddits are going dark in protest

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLo...was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc..._three_subreddits_have_gone_private/?sort=new

The two hashtags covering it
https://twitter.com/search?q=#redditrevolt&src=typd

https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheDarkening?src=hash



And the bombs are dropping on good ol Randi Harper of the "anti harassment" initiative.

Challenge was accepted

HARPING ON: THE HYPOCRISY AND LIES OF TWITTER’S MOST NOTORIOUS ‘ANTI-ABUSE’ ACTIVIST, RANDI HARPER, PART 1
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...ious-anti-abuse-activist-randi-harper-part-1/

BIG RANDI DRAGS HER “SON” INTO TWITTER SCRUM AFTER MILO STRIKES
http://theralphretort.com/big-randi-drags-her-son-into-twitter-scrum-after-milo-strikes-6030015/

RANDI HARPER, PART 2: THE FACT AND FICTION OF THE TROLL FORMERLY KNOWN AS @FREEBSDGIRL
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/07/02/the-fact-and-fiction-of-randi-harper/

and free speech in New Zealand is dead...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/01/nz_swings_banhammer_at_trolls/
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/trolling-is-now-illegal-in-new-zealand/

Harmful Opinions on youtube chose his name well

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC1rjUKeELaSKsxg0O1bNGw

Enjoy...a "supreme gentleman"
GamerGate can go F**K ITSELF!!!!
Wolf Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsiixhZ72Q

 

[MongGrel]

 

[Nebor]

You know, I can't tell if you're this temperamental or just a troll. You talk about women hate here but you've posted some of the most misogynistic shit I've seen on this forum. Then there's that thread you made cheering the increase of atheism in America when it wasn't very long ago you were heavily arguing Young Earth Creationism.

Young earth creationism? Are you quite sure you don't have me confused with someone else? I am fairly misogynistic by today's standards, to be honest. I can't help it though, it was he way I was raised, and no one ever taught me that it was wrong. In that way, you could say the patriarchy really took a toll on me.

 

[MongGrel]

Piven speaks in PCU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0efvZbbmPk

 

[MongGrel]

PCU Featurette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-L14NqSLVU

I guess I should have went to college, I just spent a lot of time on the campuses on the fringe I guess.

 

[0roo0roo]

Petition against Pao
https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc


Reddit is in meltdown.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...-the-day-after-a-disastrous-jesse-jackson-qa/


Reddit Is Tearing Itself Apart From The Inside. Mods Lock Down Popular Subreddits
http://wtfmagazine.com/index.php/2015/reddit-is-tearing-itself-apart-from-the-inside/

Dear Reddit: Where Are You?
http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/07/02/...ddits-go-dark-after-firing-victoria-taylor/#1


REDDIT GOES UP IN FLAMES, BUT NOT MANY ANSWERS ABOUND
http://theralphretort.com/reddit-goes-up-in-flames-but-not-many-answers-abound-702015/

PC Master Race finally joined in the fun
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/

Anti-GG Racism/Sexism Hypocrisy, CEO Impressions, Digital Release Prices + More!
EventStatus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA5oxkFvXLA


Harmful Opinion - Serious Video Game Academia
Harmful Opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0VblVCchlk




Girl sexually assaulted in GTA V -- h3h3 reaction video
h3h3Productions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UheC38wpRYg


The SJW Diaries (1 - Max Derrat) "Jessica Lovejoy"
Max Derrat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb_L24cVFVo

The SJW Diaries (2 - Max Derrat) "Pansexual Shmansexual"
Max Derrat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjMD1MpI8Pg


Creating Narratives with Josh: Episode 1 - Batman and Torture
Wammy Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUzWHeckeF4


[Gaming] WTF - Anita Sarkeesian hates on FALLOUT SHELTER?
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZPbkwKWc8M

:3
what can't Anita complain about?

back to Jack Thompson

ACMA Continues Investigation Into ABC’s #GamerGate Coverage
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/07/acmas-continues-investigation-into-abcs-gamergate-coverage/



Hateful Statements From GamerGate Opposition
EvaXephon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfiyq_W9RC8


Matpat dropped anti sjw hint
Game Theory: Red vs Blue, The SECRET Color Strategy
The Game Theorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X31K6jammH0

Game Theory: The Strategy of Sex Appeal in Dead or Alive
The Game Theorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpUs8oNjuV8

ISIS has a blocklist...we're on it
http://kuffar.net/search.aspx

 

[0roo0roo]

140k
https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc

when I originally posted it on the 3rd
https://archive.is/H6ZQ5
it was at 12k votes

Petition Calling For Ellen Pao’s Resignation From Reddit Soars Past 100K Signatures
http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/07/05/...signation-over-100k-signatures/#ixzz3f456TVIL
https://twitter.com/hashtag/redditrevolt

#RedditRevolt Xavier Mendel Interview
PressFartToContinue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02R3trwSknE


Harmful Opinion - Reddit Revolt: AMAgeddon
Harmful Opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubtvjjt1BqQ





Do An Ethics Roll! -- Indie-Fensible (#GamerGate)
ShortFatOtaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN7IbaHROvg



Examining Propaganda Against #GamerGate
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4p1DUz-6UI


Video Games Journalism site is back up, so my links should be fine again

Christina Hoff Sommers Interview About #GamerGate
Video Game Journalism (YTheAlien)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrZLCAX4bwc

http://i.imgur.com/2odHqis.png



Harmful Opinion - Hipster Dev Welfare
Harmful Opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqt_vs8XJ7g

They said we were dead #GamerGate
GameDiviner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8G9alSxXY

Has freedom of speech died on Reddit and Twitter? - Topic of the week
The Gaming Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdjUqscIZrY


reublica 2012 - Eben Moglen - Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media
reublica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKOk4Y4inVY

The ISIS blocklist only listing gg'ers might be explained
ISIS Has Its Own Style of ‘Feminism’ — And You Thought You’ve Heard It All
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1261741-think-youve-heard-it-all-isis-has-its-own-brand-of-feminism/
Its notable the big names of anti GG aren't on that list.


At this point Tauriq Moosa of Polygon has come back to twitter, having worked the sympathies of the mary sue crowd
#GamerGate: I Don’t Care About Tauriq Moosa
http://skeptischism.com/consskep/2015/06/29/gamergate-i-dont-care-about-tauriq-moosa/
looking into his blog, his beliefs are a bit out there...
The Indelible Stamp tauriq moosa
https://archive.is/Z0b9F
http://theralphretort.com/goodbye-tauriq-youre-a-pussy-6028015/


Biased Cyberhate Researcher My Response
https://saraarahman.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/biased-cyberhate-researcher-my-response/

#GamerGate and the Leftist Civil War
Louis Le Vau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLE2exHSrUA

Louis Le Vau's channel was flagged
Yeah, About That Video...
Louis Le Vau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR6-P3ntuUE

One Word: Feminism
Thorium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkJC_OV9k_A
http://unfashionista.com/2015/07/02...-timhunt-now-ucl-should-give-him-due-process/


and GGinBC was a thing
https://twitter.com/hashtag/gginbc?src=hash&vertical=default

and yes that is Lauren Southern of the slutwalk video and the libertarian candidate who was booted for being anti feminist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qv-swaYWL0
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ends-anti-feminist-candidate-lauren-southern/

 

[Nebor]

And now I've learned something about libertarian politics in Canada! This thread just keeps on something.

 

[Spungo]

I'm surprised how many people in this thread are strong supporters of corruption in journalism. An indie game developer was exposed for sleeping with journalists in exchange for positive reviews, and people are defending this and saying it's a noble act. Any discussion about the corruption has been silenced. People have been banned from reddit and 4chan for spreading the word about corruption.

It's also amazing how many people support Anita Sarkeesian, a woman who is a known con artist. She goes as far as disabling comments and ratings on all of her youtube videos just to prevent people from pointing out how often she is wrong. Thunderf00t's videos did a great job of destroying any credibility she had left.

 

[Nebor]

This forum is fairly pro-GG if this thread is any measure. The only anti-GG people are Canadians, if you know what I mean.

 

[BoberFett]

I'm surprised how many people in this thread are strong supporters of corruption in journalism. An indie game developer was exposed for sleeping with journalists in exchange for positive reviews, and people are defending this and saying it's a noble act. Any discussion about the corruption has been silenced. People have been banned from reddit and 4chan for spreading the word about corruption.

It's also amazing how many people support Anita Sarkeesian, a woman who is a known con artist. She goes as far as disabling comments and ratings on all of her youtube videos just to prevent people from pointing out how often she is wrong. Thunderf00t's videos did a great job of destroying any credibility she had left.

It's pretty well proven at this point that nobody was sleeping with journalists for favorable coverage of her game. These "game journalists" are defintely scumbags who have less interest in games than they do promoting their left wing agenda, but let's not cloud the issue with falsehoods. Fact is, these "journalists" are the losers who couldn't get into real media which is what they really wanted, so they could push their agenda there. Instead, they accidentally ended up in games journalism because it was a job that paid, and they decided they were going to push their agenda on people who weren't interested in it. It backfired.

I don't care about "integrity in games journalism" because I haven't relied on them for information about games since I canceled EGM, or whatever print mag I last subscribed to. My only interest is in seeing the SJW mindset of the anti-GamerGate bandwagoners stamped out, because I detest what they do to society. I knew nothing of SJWs until GG was a thing, but after doing more reading and finding out what they do to every culture they infect, I was flabbergasted that somehow these freaks are given a pulpit to bully from. They try to destroy everything they touch, using censorship and shaming to cow others into agreeing with their radical agenda. They're exactly like the religious right wing crusaders who attempt to silence anybody who disagrees with them, they're left wing fascists and a lot of people still seem to think they're harmless. They're not. Fortunately even liberals (decent liberals, not the radical idiots and their otherkin headmates) are starting to realize that this radical left wing nonsense is dangerous.

GG is a sideshow, and I'm happy to see the SJWs show themselves a fool, but the real issue is far bigger and more important.

 

[Blue_Max]

This forum is fairly pro-GG if this thread is any measure. The only anti-GG people are Canadians, if you know what I mean.

Feminism runs wild and free up here in the Great White North. Canadians are typically a non-confrontational bunch which are easy pickings for the hyper-aggressive attack styles of modern feminism & SJW.

You see it in P&N all the time. No facts? Proven wrong? No problem! Attack with emotions! Humans will react on instinct that if a woman is sad, a man was bad.

 

[Exophase]

Young earth creationism? Are you quite sure you don't have me confused with someone else? I am fairly misogynistic by today's standards, to be honest. I can't help it though, it was he way I was raised, and no one ever taught me that it was wrong. In that way, you could say the patriarchy really took a toll on me.

I think I really must be confusing you with someone else.. forum search doesn't go back far enough for me to check but a google search shows you've made posts 10 years ago that aren't anything in line with this (and wow, you've been on this site a long time) I really must apologize. I normally wouldn't say anything like that unless I was really confident in what I was saying.. so my memory must be getting unreliable or something :/

The person I was thinking of had an Israeli flag for his avatar, that wasn't you was it?

This forum is fairly pro-GG if this thread is any measure. The only anti-GG people are Canadians, if you know what I mean.

Well Anita Sarkasian is Canadian..

 

[Nebor]

I think I really must be confusing you with someone else.. forum search doesn't go back far enough for me to check but a google search shows you've made posts 10 years ago that aren't anything in line with this (and wow, you've been on this site a long time) I really must apologize. I normally wouldn't say anything like that unless I was really confident in what I was saying.. so my memory must be getting unreliable or something :/

The person I was thinking of had an Israeli flag for his avatar, that wasn't you was it?



Well Anita Sarkasian is Canadian..

I had an Israeli flag earlier this year (but so do several other posters.) I've been an atheist since I realized Santa Clause wasn't real.

 

[brycejones]

Feminism runs wild and free up here in the Great White North. Canadians are typically a non-confrontational bunch which are easy pickings for the hyper-aggressive attack styles of modern feminism & SJW.

You see it in P&N all the time. No facts? Proven wrong? No problem! Attack with emotions! Humans will react on instinct that if a woman is sad, a man was bad.

Your lack of self awareness is entertaining as always.