#Gamergate, the war on nerds, and the corruption of the left and the free press

[0roo0roo]

Depends on how much you want them to, games like Unreal Tournament had male and female models and the females bots usually better skilled since '99. The recent female Thor comics has GGers even more on the edge.

http://i.imgur.com/zpS0AoT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kDoMPOz.jpg

Now imagine GTA with a feminist protagonist. :awe:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...nging-and-misandry-ruin-a-cherished-art-form/

It's funny. i keep hearing how people are pissed that Thor is now a women. I have been collecting comics for 30+ years, I get on comic book forums, sites and talk with comic book lovers often.

VERY few are upset with it. We all know this is a gimic to try to get new readers and it will go back to normal in a year or less.

Actually directly addressed in this Badgerpod
BadgerPod Gamergate Four: Thor, not just female--feminist!
HoneyBadgerRadio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uY9f9UDNBU

Their sales were halved, so that kind of says it all.
The badgerpod has people who have deep knowledge of the lore and they explain why it doesn't make sense to even attempt this change, it doesn't make sense within that story.

And when they inevitably change it back, they will recieve backlash from the very same people they were trying to appease, its a fools errand to pander to these people, they won't support what they demand.


But you are right, they aren't angry, they are just probably disappointed and just seeing their views vindicated in just how terrible the female thor was.




Anyways, the gamergate train keeps steaming ahead...

Mike Church Show: Milo Yiannopoulos Interview on #GamerGate (Part 1 of 2)
Video Game Journalism (YTheAlien)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0zv7kwnj0U

Mike Church Show: Milo Yiannopoulos Interview #GamerGate (Part 2 of 2)
Video Game Journalism (YTheAlien)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qyyr2Wa5Rs

http://kukuruyo.com/comic/gamergate-life-24-english/

Δ #GamerGate Update Rollup - February 15, 2015 Δ
Bonn Ortloff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agoD7Pj0o1M

Socks does a dramatic retelling of law and order reefer madness..
Dead Gamers Talking: Law & Order SVU Story Time/Buh bye Bobby/RPS vs Molyneux/GamerGate things
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHbO8KF_mVQ

Ben Kuchera is honest for once..

http://archive.today/MibJ5
Total Biscuit tears him a new one..
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1bTi9Yy09Oq

[Gaming] VG247's "Developers shooting the Messenger" (Video Response) (#GamerGate)
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBZMCqu90N0
http://theralphretort.com/vg247-founder-goes-fullmcintosh-over-controversial-petition-2017015/

Article attacking game devs speaking out reveals more corruption
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEGFwPdy8gA

Current games writer at the "Guardian".....she probably thinks that law and order svu was a documentary...

More on the ridiculous blacklist author
http://theralphretort.com/thx-anon-essay-digs-deep-into-randi-harpers-blacklist-02017015/




Gamergate supports actual abuse victim, anti's throw a fit.
Why We Must Take Action- Charity, Mercedes Carrera
Mercedes Carrera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z85GQF9--s&hd=1
https://twitter.com/TheMercedesXXX/status/553666106859081728
*mercedes twitter is nsfw, obviously....

GG midnight Emergency meeting: Helping Cytherea, dont let Chu ruin this.
Let's Talk Games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps7oeLrinqY
http://theralphretort.com/arthur-chu-sinks-even-lower-2016015/



Alisha Grauso put out a pretty heinous hit piece on the 16th
archived here https://archive.today/X863G

People dug into her history, she's an instigating trouble maker as usual
http://a.pomf.se/bjlbvn.gif
https://archive.today/oDKOC
http://pastebin.com/jYBbUwKK
https://twitter.com/TurkeySpoony/status/560336811495419904
https://twitter.com/AlishaGrauso/status/560278639141335042
https://twitter.com/YavoYavoyavo/status/560338884563718145/photo/1
https://archive.today/OZhId
https://archive.today/R7gKi
http://i.imgur.com/0yPexP4.png
Basically a 34 year old woman with "issues", her twitter is a wall of fml "depression" esp on the day she waded into gamergate's hashtag to scold them, then blocked people with glee when she didn't get the reaction she wanted.

Tyler Breaks Down The War for the Soul of Geek Culture Live
Tyler Valle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLejwhVupc

A Personal Appeal to Alisha Grauso from GamerGate [fixed]
scrumpmonkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK0-5shI-94


Sushilulu the woman gamer featured in the ABC Nightline piece got her answer from ABC...they don't care about the truth.
Also this "neutral" apparently was banned from the anti GG reddit for not holding to narrative...
http://s2b20blog.mukyou.com/truth-unsellable-commodity-journalism/
Let's Think Games - News Media and Nightline with Stephanie A.K.A. Sushilulu
Let's Talk Games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyziSTTXJBU

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ming-for-you-games-press-turns-on-developers/


Poorly researched piece on seattle komo news.
KOMO 4, Izzy Galvez, and #GamerGate (Video Response)
MundaneMatt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCNvTu4FiLE

Allum Bokhari (Breitbart) and Jon Humbert (KOMO News) discuss #GamerGate
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rqasubr_ng

Full interview of Allum Bokhari which was then cut down to a few seconds for that piece as usual... this is how the sausage is made...
KOMO #Gamergate Interview w/ Allum Bokhari (Mirror)
Mymessy Cumstains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-0as6O8UaM

Several other youtubers have posted their full interviews on youtube so there is a record against what actually ends up in the tv or radio, from sargon to karen straughan, the scale of what they cut is always amazing.



World of Warcraft lead developer join Kotaku in action
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR29ufu83pM




Destroying the narrative 4 Years Ago, Gamergate
Aus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLPR1GQKNNU

And mercedes showed up on the drunk peasants with the amazing atheist
Special Guest: Mercedes Carrera - Gamergate vs. Feminism - DPP #85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWXrOiMdXCk

 

[Blue_Max]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sj_CtPCGI

Sarkeesian strikes again... and looks even more stupid than ever.

 

[Ruptga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sj_CtPCGI

0roo strikes again... and looks even more stupid than ever.

ftfy

 

[Blue_Max]

ftfy

 

[Skel]

As I said before...

Another example is the controversial game Hatred, they tried to get it removed from steam greenlight. Its not just these women, they stand in league with the corrupted sjw press which support any such campaign to suppress content they do not like. A sjw at valve did remove it for a while, it took the intervention of Gabe Newell to get it back on greenlight.
And when it won by a dominating margin

<snip>
All the corrupted outlets did not cover the win. It was a deafening silence.

The goal of these people is to control, whether they directly censor or indirectly through self censorship, that is their goal. And as we've seen with
dying light...nothing is actually good enough for these people.

Hatred had an uphill battle just due to it's content. Manhunt had tons of issues and bannings way before there was a gamergate or the like. Sometimes people just want to draw a line in what they consider decency. It really does seem that outside of this game, and Australia's random banning of titles here and there, that no other titles are really effected. It's really hard to be on board with a conspiracy when it's not really effecting anything. I keep asking for more and only these two games come up.

And if you don't think these things matter.

Ask yourself, how did "Yes means yes" become law in california colleges?

Do you think it came from no where?

Feminized America: How "Yes Means Yes" was created
blackgnosticspeaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMR5GyuZF0o

It was a process.

Because any law prohibiting date rape should be opposed? Don't take advantage of drunk chicks and you won't have to worry. Either way.. once again you portray gamergate as anything opposing any female ideas.

As for Sarkeesian, do you want to have an informed opinion or not?
In any case many of the debunking videos by thunderf00t and others are actually quite entertaining.

But fine, you got 1 minute?

Anita Sarkeesian Debunked in Under a Minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW-69xXD734

Now ask yourself why this isn't ever mentioned in the media.

I'm really starting to think your thing against this Sarkeesian (sounds like a Star Trek villain) has clouded your ability to see anything outside of her. I don't need to see any videos debunking her because I don't care what she's saying. She could be completely right or completely off her rocker, but it still doesn't impact my gaming habits. As long as people like me continue to pay way too much for a video game when it's released, there will ALWAYS be games like the ones out there. People continue to complain that games are just retreads of the same thing, but yet all these people making videos debunking Sarkeesian think she's single handedly going to cause a massive shift in games? You give her way too much power.

 

[master_shake_]

write up f the svu episode.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2476682,00.asp

heres the conclusion

Cut to Raina's apartment where she says, "Women in gaming, what did I expect?" She's out of the industry, saying they already won.
Nobody won from this episode, nobody. Also, this show is awful and I will not watch again until someone gets sexually harassed via smartwatch.

here's a comment from that article.

Are you disturbed Chandra? This is EXACTLY what you wanted and you're bashing it? This episode is the very narrative you propagandists pretending to be bloggers masquerading as journalists have been peddling for nearly 6 months now. You threw gaming under the bus when you allowed professional victims like Wu, Quinn, and - especially - Sarkeesian to use the MSM as a weapon against the very people you were meant to represent: GAMERS.
Now, when your narrative is given form, you want to distance yourself from it? YOU CREATED THIS ...you birthed this freakish flipper baby. You helped craft the narrative for what is our new "Reefer Madness". Don't pretend for even a single solitary second you're not partly responsible. We sure as hell will not. PC Mag is dead to me and anyone who frequents this site, which DOES NOT represent PC gamers, is complicit in creating the new moral panic ala 90's Jack Thompson. Thanks for nothing you hack.
"we are not Jack Thompson" HORSESHI*T.
Here is how pathetic this propagandist is: at the end of the article she links to the bogus b.s. nonfactual slander hit piece "everything you never wanted to know about GamerGate". That article might as well be the screen play for the SVU episode but does Chandra have enough self awareness to realize she's only supporting the insanity in the SVU episode by linking to the very thing it was based on when SVU said "ripped from the headlines"?
Do any of these SJW nightmare propagandists authoritarian anti-gamers have any self awareness? This article is a joke...you're a joke. You have done demonstrable harm to gaming because you didn't want to own up to your own cronyism, collusion, corruption, nepotism and propaganda pushing narratives. You chose to lie for 6 months straight in order to deflect your own issues onto gamers and, in doing so, you threw us under the bus. It's disgraceful you don't know where to point blame for the travesty that was "intimidation game". Find a mirror: it will help.

clear consise appropriate, obviously a misogynist.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

It really does seem that outside of this game, and Australia's random banning of titles here and there, that no other titles are really effected.

Again, I don't really have a horse in the race, but since I made the statement earlier I've said *twice* now, Australia did not ban this game. GTA V is still available there. You and eskimospy have both made this statement. To treat this game ban the same as the bans by the Australian ratings board is a very intellectually dishonest thing to do.

You asked for evidence earlier and were given it. Then, when given that evidence you simply asked for more. I have a feeling that since you are trying to minimize these issues that you aren't likely to be pleased with anything they were to bring forward to you.

 

[Skel]

Again, I don't really have a house in the race, but since I made the statement earlier I've said *twice* now, Australia did not bam this game. GTA V is still available there. You and eskimospy have both made this statement. To treat this game ban like the same as the bans by the Australian ratings board is a very intellectually dishonest thing to do.

You asked for evidence earlier and w're given it. Then when given that evidence you simply asked for more. I have a feeling that since you are trying to minimize these issues that you aren't likely to be pleased with anything they were to bring forward to you.

Sorry... I guess my issue with the examples provided is I feel that Hatred would have had the issue regardless of some 'movement'. It's a game that really was pushing boundaries. If there were other games that were banned or attempted to have been banned then I would be more comfortable with saying that it needs to stop. As it is, I can't help but feel like this issue is all in some people's heads.

As for GTA V.. I guess I'm a bit confused. I had thought the link provided was to show that GTA was removed due to the feminist movement. I kind of discounted it as Australia has taken issue to games before all this so it's hard for me to believe it's more than just the normal stupidity there. Again, why I was looking for more examples.

I keep looking for data, that's not some idiot talking for over an hour on YouTube, as I am interested in this subject. I love playing games, so the idea of someone taking that away from me bothers me greatly. I just can't seem to find the data that supports that's what's happening. I also get confused by what "gamergate" is supposed to be about so I keep asking that. The definition seems to change depending on what people think will get them on 'their' side.

 

[0roo0roo]

Hatred had an uphill battle just due to it's content. Manhunt had tons of issues and bannings way before there was a gamergate or the like. Sometimes people just want to draw a line in what they consider decency. It really does seem that outside of this game, and Australia's random banning of titles here and there, that no other titles are really effected. It's really hard to be on board with a conspiracy when it's not really effecting anything. I keep asking for more and only these two games come up.

In the past, the context for the bans was that the "for the children" crowd raised a ruckus about video game violence. It becomes a lot worse when these people join forces with the games media, and a social movement of sjws and feminists, they now have the power to snuff out games even before they get started.

Because any law prohibiting date rape should be opposed? Don't take advantage of drunk chicks and you won't have to worry. Either way.. once again you portray gamergate as anything opposing any female ideas.

Don't worry about due process rights or just rational law making, instead just create laws based on moral panic because that always turns out well right? And really, all those false accused men at those colleges had nothing to fear, they only had professors protesting their fraternities based on a lie and a presumption of guilt.
You are once again confusing radical feminist thought with female ideas.

On Tuesday evening, Harvard's new policy was decried in an open letter signed by 28 current and former professors from Harvard Law School.

Among their contentions, the professors say the new policies "lack the most basic elements of fairness and due process, are overwhelmingly stacked against the accused, and are in no way required by Title IX law or regulation."

The group, which included Elizabeth Bartholet, Nancy Gertner, Charles Ogletree, and Alan Dershowitz, also accused the university of bowing the federal pressure in reshaping its policy in order to avoid losing funds.
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/10/did-harvard-go-too-far/381515/

And you've made it clear you didn't check out the link before you replied. The entire basis for this moral panic was started by a false rape claim..

I'm really starting to think your thing against this Sarkeesian (sounds like a Star Trek villain) has clouded your ability to see anything outside of her. I don't need to see any videos debunking her because I don't care what she's saying. She could be completely right or completely off her rocker, but it still doesn't impact my gaming habits. As long as people like me continue to pay way too much for a video game when it's released, there will ALWAYS be games like the ones out there. People continue to complain that games are just retreads of the same thing, but yet all these people making videos debunking Sarkeesian think she's single handedly going to cause a massive shift in games? You give her way too much power.

You don't need knowledge for your opinion do you.

And you aren't even curious enough to ask the simple question why the media is this consistently dishonest that even unrefutable video evidence of her dishonesty is never touched.

She isn't alone, it wasn't without a constant hammering of gamers with articles about her "harassment" for literally years now that this became an issue. She didn't convert the mainstream press, she fit their agenda. Her success is in exploiting the groups who were primed for her message and had agendas to push themselves. She doesn't need to talk to you, in fact she never does. She talks to people who know nothing about video games, and so just take her word for it, they don't catch her lies, because they lack the knowledge, and to be frank they don't care about the truth either way, she's useful to them, and they are useful to her. And while you were sleeping, she's been laying the groundwork against you. The people who know no better and just go along with moral panics do affect games, as I said, they got it removed off shelves in australia based on lies, and that was during gamergate. It is only because of the reaction that she has less influence than she could have had.
I mean seriously, the GDC gave the woman the "gaming ambassador" of the year...influence? Are you kidding me. Even if only through fear, that is nothing to scoff at.

 

[0roo0roo]

Law & Order GG Episode, DOA: LR Season Pass, Evolve Cheating, RE:
Revelations 2 Not Horror? + More!
EventStatus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jnW5hnsu2U


The 2015 #GamerGate MegaShow
zan denkl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOAjC9yjIvA


Girls of #Gamergate: @Grummz's petition to the media.
Queeny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVbLNg5eBFE
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...essives-as-the-new-architects-of-moral-panic/

Polygon debunking themselves in the same article...A TROPE!
veemonro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaowIUYKxTg


http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/18/b...-against-helping-abused-porn-star-and-family/

Dead Gamers Talking 09/02 Vidya/GamerGate/Other things
NEET LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iniFYkoAs5o


Toxic Gamers Podcast - EP2
10Phoenix01 Gamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFeKyA72LLA

Moviebob fired at the escapist, looks like pro GG Liz is going to produce some content for them now, the anti GG tears are delicious

And Bob should be happy...progressive stack after all.





GamerGate 25.0
TheAndredal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jfsec84S-s


http://theralphretort.com/media-stu...acking-out-of-pax-east-is-laughable-02018015/

And a bit more svu fun

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S A GAME
Zedong Did Nothing Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man1oy4Xh_0
http://www.reaxxion.com/5290/law-and-order-shows-the-extensive-damage-done-by-the-gaming-media

This ones quite funny
Law & Order SVU on Gamers -- h3h3 reaction video
h3h3Productions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEg7qjFcGXw


Total Biscuit rips into Ben Kuchera at this point in the co-optional podcast
http://youtu.be/JjPrgIhT6to?t=2h41m39s


And related in that this is the source of the problem in academia...
Marxism, Feminism and Housework
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GmbWyQgq3k
Don'ts for Husbands and Wives (1913)
Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih-7F6czeds

 

[nickqt]

Horses fight mustard because they are not yet there.

Is that a good summary of whatever is going on in this thread?

 

[brycejones]

regular link dump

You must have a lot of fiber in your diet.

 

[Blue_Max]

You must have a lot of fiber in your diet.

You're one to talk. He may dump a ton of interesting links on a subject showing that he's researching and sharing his results.

All YOU do is shit on them.

 

[brycejones]

You're one to talk. He may dump a ton of interesting links on a subject showing that he's researching and sharing his results.

All YOU do is shit on them.

Interesting is certainly in the eye of the beholder.

BTW are you still scared women?

 

[Blue_Max]

Interesting is certainly in the eye of the beholder.

BTW are you still scared women?

 

[0roo0roo]

https://************/LibertarianBlue/who-should-really-feel-unsafe-at-paxeast

storify dot com is censored on anandtech..go figure.
https://twitter.com/JennOfHardwire/status/569205104953335809
https://twitter.com/LibertarianBlue/status/569226682134999040
Brianna Wu just proved just how far she is willing to go with this threat narrative..
These women are just trolls.

 

[brycejones]

deflection

So the short answer is still afraid of women. Some day you'll get over it.

 

[brycejones]

https://************/LibertarianBlue/who-should-really-feel-unsafe-at-paxeast

storify dot com is censored on anandtech..go figure.
https://twitter.com/JennOfHardwire/status/569205104953335809
https://twitter.com/LibertarianBlue/status/569226682134999040
Brianna Wu just proved just how far she is willing to go with this threat narrative..
These women are just trolls.

I guess anandtech is run by a bunch of evil feminists since they ban that site.

BTW don't you ever get tired of giving this woman more attention?

 

[Victorian Gray]

I guess anandtech is run by a bunch of evil feminists since they ban that site.

BTW don't you ever get tired of giving this woman more attention?

He's got a crush?

 

[Blue_Max]

So the short answer is still afraid of women. Some day you'll get over it.

Since you're enjoying placing words and emotions onto others with no regard to reality, you may as well grab yourself a pet rock. You can place all those emotions onto it and pretend it loves you as much as you love it.

That would be about as real as your thought process of pretending I'm "afraid of women". I'm not sure if you're just fighting feminist-style and trying to make this personal and get me to reply in similar fashion (where you "win" for imagining me all angry! Yay!) ...or if you genuinely ignore the words and thoughts of everyone around you and attach your own personalities to them.

"Hi, I'm Jake and I'm a comedian..."
"No - I say you're George and you're a bum in your mother's basement who does nothing but play video games."
"....but that's not even remotely accurate?!"
"I'm not interested in anything you have to say, basement-dweller!"

 

[UglyCasanova]

Dedgum I wonder how long post #751 took to research/write...?

 

[brycejones]

blah blah blah

meh

 

[CitizenKain]

You're one to talk. He may dump a ton of interesting links on a subject showing that he's researching and sharing his results.

All YOU do is shit on them.

I'm sure the person who used to post a lot of Infowars and other conspiracy garbage posts here thought they were posting a ton of interesting links too. Also the word interesting loses a lot of meaning when its a neckbeard ranting on youtube about how mean girls are.

 

[DrDoug]

Since this is the place for GG crap, I mean interesting things... here's a link to an opinion piece in the WaPo.

You guys can start high-fiving each other now!

 

[brycejones]

Since this is the place for GG crap, I mean interesting things... here's a link to an opinion piece in the WaPo.

You guys can start high-fiving each other now!

Those are just a few bad apples they don't represent the real ideals of Gamergate since its really about ethics in games journalism.