Skel
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Gregory Alan Elliott. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Gregory+Alan+Elliott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUChUrKsEJU (This one explains the situation particularly quickly and clearly.)
Had the verdict gone the other way, we might never be allowed to disagree or criticize a feminist again without severe punishment. Still think this is all just 'nothing'? Or 'exaggerated'?
The push to call critiques "abuse" and have it punished... the push to have all men put on a curfew to keep women safe from their uncontrolled rampant rapey desires... these things are really happening. That's probably half the reason for making such a big stink over all issues great and small - so they can change legislation to favour themselves - either without anyone even noticing, or under the guise of "improving conditions for women and minorities (...but mostly just a handful of specific women.)"
The hypocrisy, cannibalization, and back-stabbing among their own ranks is just staggering... which is almost a good thing because it slows their progress and occasionally shows the world how totally misguided they are.
Thanks for the info. I hadn't seen it before, and it does look like it's a jacked up thing. I did also lookup the stuff on a different site as I honestly don't care for YouTube as a source for news stuff. For me it's never without bias, and I'm one of those people that would much rather read than listen to some idiot tell me what he thinks.
Either way.. to answer your question, no I still don't really see it as a massive deal. While really stupid and even worse things happen in some courts (look at that "Making a Murder show), the first amendment covers me being able to say someone's an idiot. It doesn't cover me going out of my way to the point of almost stalking them to make sure they know I still think they're an idiot, but it's more than enough for me to get my feelings across. You'll never see that amendment changed, so the idea that I'll get thrown in jail for criticizing one of these idiots has as much chance as porn never being produced again. R v Elliott happened in Canada, and honestly I'm not sure the laws there in regards to free speech. In America that wouldn't have ever gone to court in the first place, unless I was stalking them to tell them how much they sucked.
I'm glad it worked out for Elliott better than it could have. Thanks for providing the links, I'm still not sure I can see enough of a deal here, but I can see how you might. I would still like to see something in America that shows this punishment you're describing, but I not going to pretend you didn't provide anything. Odd way of saying I'm not discrediting what you've provided, and while you did answer the question, I'd like to see more.
Twitter is just one company, but its telling what has become the social norm in some tech circles, never mind the media. Jack Dorcey, a billionaire is responding to specific sjw's, Randi has no relevant qualifications to speak of, and yet, she like the others is entitled to personal attention.
Doesn't Dorcey have the right to run his company as he see fit? Doesn't that also mean that you and others that really disagree with they way they run it can go elsewhere? I don't go to places that I really disagree with they way they do things, but I also don't pretend I have any right to tell them how to do things. I'm a bit confused on why there's so much focus on Twitter in the first place. I keep seeing in your posts the arguments between the two "sides" on Twitter but can't really see anything going past that. I freely admit I'm not paying that much attention to this "story" but from what I've seen nothing is really changing. Even the attempt to prosecute someone went no where, and that's the only thing I've really seen close to attempting to change anything. I'm still seeing the same games with new paint jobs, and those new paint jobs still show boobs.
People like Sarkeesian don't change law's simply by going to the UN, they lend legitimacy to social pressure which creates a false impression of public consensus on an issue through a drum beat of media promoting the threat narratives, making it "safe" for politicians to enact legislation like the "Harmful Digital Communications" Act in New Zealand.
Not so much attempting to discount the people of New Zealand, but how does that matter to America where Sarkeesian gets the most attention? Is there a chart somewhere showing that she's big in NZ and the people who run that place hang on her words? It just seems really odd that these are supposed to be connected. There are places in the world where having DoA Beach Volleyball would get you beheaded, and I can't stop that.
One other point, a lot of people talk to the UN. They don't really matter to local politics, and the only time I hear about them in elections is getting us out of it because it's a waste.
The change happens beneath peoples feet while they sleep, the activists, the pressure groups lobby and build their cases through agenda studies fed to the media which change the common understanding, until craven politicians like Obama end up parroting their lines, like 1 in 4, 75 cents on the dollar. Do you think Obama really believes those figures? He's a smart man, he can do math, but he panders. And so you have things like the quiet changes the Obama administration has taken to enforce reinterpretation of the title ix education amendments on campus through mandates, which threatened funding for non compliance leading to the dogs being let off their leashes, creating regulations resulting in environments where false accusations thrived.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428910/campus-rape-courts-republicans-resisting
As John has outlined, there is now a normalization where such women can act with impunity, free from repercussions for the damage they cause.
"lived experiences" trump fact and reason...<<MAJOR SNIP>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZFOdc_V4bM
Obama hasn't really been able to do much to stop guns from being sold, something he's constantly talking about. Trying to think he'll sudden go to a stealth war on men is something I can't get behind.