[GameGPU] ac unity Benchmarks

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CakeMonster

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The 1600p gap between the 780* and 9*0 series are enormous, I'm wondering what's going on there.
 

Keysplayr

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So when nvidia says you need an gtx680 to play on low its suddenly ok?
how can you people accept this? you need an 680 to play this game on LOW? wth it looks like crap on low. why do only 600$ cards matter here?

Btw. dragon age is not out yet there are no game ready drivers afaik and we only have 1 benchmarkset. not only does dragon age have already tess. build in it looks also at least as good as ac:u.

what will happen when ubi includes tess. and physx? trisli 980 max oc to play this game at 60fps?

You're acting very "extremist" here. As per usual, lesser cards will have to play with lesser settings. This has been true since T-Rex roamed the earth. ;)

I'm playing this (right now) at 1920x1200, all settings ULTRA and ON. 4X MSAA, HBAO+ and Bloom ON. I use on average 3.5GB of GPU memory according to MSI afterburner. Also condsider that memory management algorithms play a part here as well and can differ from one memory size to another without much penalty in Texture quality. ACU may not Need the 3.5GB it is utilizing on my 980, but since it's there, the driver may take liberties. A 3GB 780 may utilize 2.7 or whatever. Need more data. Maybe some 7970/280/780/290 users can chime in as well as 680/770 users.
Just try not to be so extreme. There are tradeoffs and middle of the road options for any game out there.
 
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Enigmoid

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Well, it uses a lot of CPU and scales well, that I can say. Looks pretty poor though.
 

Rakehellion

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This game doesn't even manage 30fps on the consoles. Tests are showing 20-25fps. The Xbone performs better than the PS4 even though the PS4 has about 50% more GPU grunt and they both have the same CPU. Who knows why that is the case.

Ubi reported that the game was CPU limited on consoles.

I get console-like performance on a 660ti and an i5.
 

Freddy1765

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Been playing for a couple of hours on system in sig, 1440p. In many areas of the game the FPS doesn't change regardless of the graphics settings.
In the populated areas around Paris I don't often go above 40-45 with Detail and Textures on High, FXAA, Shadows on Low. Here's hoping patch 1.2 fixes a lot of these issues.

As things stand the game is not an enjoyable experience for me so I'm just going to let it sit and cross my fingers for a patch.
 

SPBHM

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I was watching the pcper.com stream yesterday, he was playing with a gtx 980 and 1080p the game went lower than 30FPS during cutscenes (but was mostly over 30), and running around was going under 40FPS relatively easy, but it looked great... I thought the game would be more demanding on the CPU side but is definitely a GPU killer... I guess there is no point in playing it with less than a 7950 or so.

on the consoles the game looks to be extremely limited by CPU on the PS4, and GPU during the cutscenes for the Xone, the PS4 can go under 20fps,

anyway, the last AC I've finished was AC1 (it was a demanding game at the time, but nothing like this one), and my hardware is to poor for this game, so I'm not going to touch it.
 

f1sherman

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So when nvidia says you need an gtx680 to play on low its suddenly ok?
how can you people accept this?


when referring to lack of outrage over the new Assassins Creed...

are you by any chance reading AT&VCG on a small screen mobile device :colbert:
 

RussianSensation

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LOL! 17 FPS minimum / 20 fps average on a 2.5 year old 680, barely 40 fps on a $1000 Titan, 43 fps on a 780Ti (!!!!) at 1080p with 2010 graphics.

Taken from the Steam customer reviews:
Assassin: Ubisoft
Target: Your Wallet
Method: Over Hyping
Assassination Successful.

This makes Watch Dogs looks like an optimized game. NV's tessellation patch isn't even in. I get it now:

GameWorks = Making your last gen NV flagship GPU obsolete, 1 Ubisoft game at a time. If you have AMD, please proceed to add the latest generation flagship NV card to your cart to play.

This game is now universally ripped as being an unoptimized pile. I am going to laugh so hard when Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 wipe the floor with the PC version on underpowered consoles. This is like when Crysis 1 came out, minus any advancements in physics and graphics. Well played NV and Ubisoft crippling Kepler while at it. Must be nice having spent $1300 on dual 780s at launch and now seeing GW games take them close to life support. I get it, JHH and Ubisoft CEOs need the new LaFerrari upgrade.

Well it's time to send Ubisoft a lesson: $5 bargain basement for all their future games, while the $45 left over will go towards indie games/Humble Bundles.

This just may be the worst GPU optimized game of 2014. I guess Ubisoft really wants the title of worst company in the world this year ;).
 
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Keysplayr

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I was watching the pcper.com stream yesterday, he was playing with a gtx 980 and 1080p the game went lower than 30FPS during cutscenes (but was mostly over 30), and running around was going under 40FPS relatively easy, but it looked great... I thought the game would be more demanding on the CPU side but is definitely a GPU killer... I guess there is no point in playing it with less than a 7950 or so.

on the consoles the game looks to be extremely limited by CPU on the PS4, and GPU during the cutscenes for the Xone, the PS4 can go under 20fps,

anyway, the last AC I've finished was AC1 (it was a demanding game at the time, but nothing like this one), and my hardware is to poor for this game, so I'm not going to touch it.

Yes, cut scenes appear to run at 29fps or thereabouts.
 

Keysplayr

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LOL! 17 FPS minimum / 20 fps average on a 2.5 year old 680, barely 40 fps on a $1000 Titan, 43 fps on a 780Ti (!!!!) at 1080p with 2010 graphics.

Taken from the Steam customer reviews:
Assassin: Ubisoft
Target: Your Wallet
Method: Over Hyping
Assassination Successful.

This makes Watch Dogs looks like an optimized game. NV's tessellation patch isn't even in. I get it now:

GameWorks = Making your last gen NV flagship GPU obsolete, 1 Ubisoft game at a time. If you have AMD, please proceed to add the latest generation flagship NV card to your cart to play.

This game is now universally ripped as being an unoptimized pile. I am going to laugh so hard when Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 wipe the floor with the PC version on underpowered consoles. This is like when Crysis 1 came out, minus any advancements in physics and graphics. Well played NV and Ubisoft crippling Kepler while at it. Must be nice having spent $1300 on dual 780s at launch and now seeing GW games take them close to life support. I get it, JHH and Ubisoft CEOs need the new LaFerrari upgrade.

Well it's time to send Ubisoft a lesson: $5 bargain basement for all their future games, while the $45 left over will go towards indie games/Humble Bundles.

This just may be the worst GPU optimized game of 2014. I guess Ubisoft really wants the title of worst company in the world this year ;).


So you haven't played it then.
 
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Well, it uses a lot of CPU and scales well, that I can say. Looks pretty poor though.

Seems to like both cores and high IPC. Continues to amaze me how well the 5960x performs in spite of its low clockspeed.

AMD cpus sure take a beating though, despite having a lot of cores.
 

raghu78

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LOL! 17 FPS minimum / 20 fps average on a 2.5 year old 680, barely 40 fps on a $1000 Titan, 43 fps on a 780Ti (!!!!) at 1080p with 2010 graphics.

Taken from the Steam customer reviews:
Assassin: Ubisoft
Target: Your Wallet
Method: Over Hyping
Assassination Successful.

This makes Watch Dogs looks like an optimized game. NV's tessellation patch isn't even in. I get it now:

GameWorks = Making your last gen NV flagship GPU obsolete, 1 Ubisoft game at a time. If you have AMD, please proceed to add the latest generation flagship NV card to your cart to play.

This game is now universally ripped as being an unoptimized pile. I am going to laugh so hard when Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 wipe the floor with the PC version on underpowered consoles. This is like when Crysis 1 came out, minus any advancements in physics and graphics. Well played NV and Ubisoft crippling Kepler while at it. Must be nice having spent $1300 on dual 780s at launch and now seeing GW games take them close to life support. I get it, JHH and Ubisoft CEOs need the new LaFerrari upgrade.

Well it's time to send Ubisoft a lesson: $5 bargain basement for all their future games, while the $45 left over will go towards indie games/Humble Bundles.

This just may be the worst GPU optimized game of 2014. I guess Ubisoft really wants the title of worst company in the world this year ;).

Assassins Creed Unity could also get a new title. Most glitchy game of the year. :biggrin:

https://finance.yahoo.com/tumblr/bl...-after-abysmal-assassins-creed-165926902.html
 

Keysplayr

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Well, it uses a lot of CPU and scales well, that I can say. Looks pretty poor though.
Seems to like both cores and high IPC. Continues to amaze me how well the 5960x performs in spite of its low clockspeed.

AMD cpus sure take a beating though, despite having a lot of cores.

Heh, the Intel Core i34330 has a red bar and the AMD FX9590 has blue.
Excuse me while I go feign some outrage about this. ;)

:: Looks in mirror with war face and gets self worked up ::
 

f1sherman

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WTF is with FX 8350 frequently beating the hell out of FX 8150, despite having only ~10% higher clock
 

RussianSensation

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So you haven't played it then.

Why would I? I will not buy $50 games from companies that stand against everything PC gaming stands for. Ubisoft is a sell out. They rush a broken game just to make $. This game needed 1-1.5 years of optimizations from today. If you know that your unoptimized game with 500 NPCs that add no value over 100 NPCs will run like a dog, why not take steps to change your game? If you know your pre-baked lighting looks like garbage and yet makes the game crazy CPU limited, why not switch to dynamic global illumination via DirectCompute in the PS4 GPU (as an example). If your PCSS shadows look like washed out shadows, but not any better than washed out soft shadows from 2008, what's the point? Are you telling me you can't make the 95% washed out shadows like in this game using proven soft shadow techniques like in Alien Isolation, Metro LL?

James Cameron delayed the making of Avatar because technology wasn't ready for 10 years. If Ubisoft wanted a detailed world in Paris with hundreds of NPCs, they should have delayed this title 5-10 years. At the pace they are going, the next AC after Rogue will probably have GM200 for minimum specs.

MetaCritic: 5.2 for PS4, 3.6 for XB1, 2.4 for PC.

http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/Assassin's Creed Unity/results

You are telling me there will not be any 3rd person games until PS5/XB2 launch from companies other than Ubisoft that will blow this game out of the water technically/graphically?

The comments on NeoGAF, GameGPU, VGChartz, etc. are hilarious. If this game was affiliated with Naughty Dog, SEGA, Nintendo, Santa Monica, it would be a catastrophic scar on the reputation of these firms.

This game gives Rockstar's GTA IV on the PC a run for the money for one of the worst optimized PC games of all time. Go ahead and play this game on LOW just to see what this looks like on a 680. Now, go ahead and play Witcher 2, Tomb Raider, Metro LL, Crysis 3 on a 680 and tell me what do you conclude?

Oh, and since you played this game, why didn't you mention that all of its AA modes wash out crispness/details? Hmm...

I would gladly support 1st party console games on XB/Sony/Nintendo than support Ubisoft. Ubisoft's idea of next gen gaming is the complete opposite of mine. Total Biscuit needed an overclocked 5960X and dual 980s just to hit 60 fps, and yet this game has no chance to even come close to being in the top 10 best looking PC games. There is nothing wrong with demanding games like Crysis 1/Metro LL/Crysis 3 requiring flagship hardware because they actually look awesome. With Watch Dogs and Unity Ubisoft proves they can't optimize/code a game. If FC4 is another stinking pile, that would be 3/3 in 2014.
 
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escrow4

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Look at the gap between SNB and Haswell - still think CPU upgrades don't matter? Same thing with Lord of the Fallen and Evil Within (which was a dog but still). 3rd one up that shows a difference . . .. . .
 

Gloomy

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Seeing the usual suspects defend this garbage pile of a game just because it has Nvidia's name on it is disheartening. I'm not even going to engage in this discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkzIGSyjLQ

Moving on to another subject, the game seems to use some derivative of TressFX for hair, simplified and toned down a lot for performance. I like it, even though it looks really bad close up, it's still a step up overall.
 

Grooveriding

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The game is a total trainwreck. Looks like a console game and runs like it's Crysis 3. I think Ubisoft believes next-gen just means your game sucks hardware like a pig, they don't realize you need to actually produce visuals beyond the year 2010 as well. The pop in is atrocious as well

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This is the second failure of gameworks, first we had Watch Dogs. If Far Cry 4 completes the hat trick of fail for ubisoft using gameworks then the whole gameworks package has really shaped up to be a gambit to artificially inflate performance requirements. What a joke, it's even punitive to nvidia users and destroys the experience on AMD cards.
 

Gloomy

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I don't think it's Nvidia's fault. Ubisoft does this with or without their help.