sactoking
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It's ok, he didn't use Fred's last name...woah, easy with the racial slurs.
It's ok, he didn't use Fred's last name...woah, easy with the racial slurs.
I'm pretty sure it was 1,000 not 100So I'm a bit confused, they said many times that Castle Black only had around 100 men and that all the other fortresses along the wall were abandoned.
I believe they also pulled everyone back to Castle Black a while ago and have purposely stayed put even as wildlings raided the surrounding villages in an attempt to draw them out.
So why are there only 100 Night's Watch? You'd think that in an area as big as the Seven Kingdoms, full of bad people, that there would be no shortage of criminals who would choose to join the Night's Watch when the alternative is execution. I could understand if they were still shorthanded; perhaps most convicts who chose service over death were conscripted into the armies to fight in the War of the Five Kings, making the Wall an oversight. But 100 just seems a little too low.
Aim for the face.Yeah I remember that line. Something like we already put 20 arrows in it
That's only an option if someone from the watch is there to escort you, or if you're sufficiently important to merit some other escort. If you're caught raping in, say, Highgarden, you're not going to get the option of going to the wall because the Tyrells won't waste the manpower ensuring you get there.You'd think that in an area as big as the Seven Kingdoms, full of bad people, that there would be no shortage of criminals who would choose to join the Night's Watch when the alternative is execution.
Not to mention, basically outside of the North, nobody gives two shits about the Wall. King's Landing has never seen a wildling raid. Occasionally, someone from the NW's will make it there and get access to their dungeons, but generally nobody cares.That's only an option if someone from the watch is there to escort you, or if you're sufficiently important to merit some other escort. If you're caught raping in, say, Highgarden, you're not going to get the option of going to the wall because the Tyrells won't waste the manpower ensuring you get there.
since it could be a spoiler either way, I'm not going to comment on what is different, but the show, while very faithful to the books, it is also very different in some regards. Basically, don't blame anything that happens or doesn't happen in the show solely on GRRM unless he also wrote the episode, the show has been cheesier in some regards, but also far more brutal and unforgiving in others.Uh, so? are you implying that Sam living or dying is somehow different from what GRRM wrote?
or just his comment "I promise to return! boohohoohoo!" That, I can concede.
I kind of disagree. The end game of all characters is how GRRM wrote it. The journey there might be slightly different. but the result is the same. I don't see GRRM letting the show kill off, or keep, any characters that suffered different fates in the books.since it could be a spoiler either way, I'm not going to comment on what is different, but the show, while very faithful to the books, it is also very different in some regards. Basically, don't blame anything that happens or doesn't happen in the show solely on GRRM unless he also wrote the episode, the show has been cheesier in some regards, but also far more brutal and unforgiving in others.
Yeah I didn't get that either... maybe they wanted to see the trajectory as they fired? Sort of like tracer rounds...i've never seen so many flaming arrows shot in a show before.
there's plenty of reasons against flaming arrows, and the only good reason for is to burn a ship. i didn't see any ships at castle black![]()
Yep. They were shooting arrows hundreds of yards into the darkness. Being able to see where they were hitting is pretty valuable. Plus, there is the off chance you catch something on fire, so that is a bonus. And, everyone knows fire adds +3 damage to an arrow attack.Yeah I didn't get that either... maybe they wanted to see the trajectory as they fired? Sort of like tracer rounds...![]()
I didn't see any arrows in him at any point??Yeah I remember that line. Something like we already put 20 arrows in it
They don't look to have longbows, at least, the wildlings don't. Their arrows didn't make it to the top of the wall. I don't have a huge problem with the NW's being able to "rain down arrows" though, but them actually hitting anything I have a problem with.English longbow max range was ~350 yards (per the always-correct Wikipedia). 700 feet is 233 yards. Seems like it wouldn't be that bad, at least for a downward shot. A shot straight out might be a different matter...
That is just what was said.I didn't see any arrows in him at any point??
i think the real problem is there is too much story to coherently cram into 10 1-hour chapters. if last night's show was 1/15-20 instead of 1/10 of an entire year's worth, it would be perceived better. like i said, blackwater was a much more well-rounded episode and holds up better on its own and in the larger context.Worst. Episode. Ever.
Seriously, WTF was that shit? No King's Landing, no Aerie, no Khaleesi, no Tyrion, no Sandor/Arya, no Sansa/Petyr, no Brienne/Podrick, no NOTHING. An entire episode wasted, 10% of the season shot and it didn't advance the storyline one iota. It was just a minor skirmish that didn't solve anything.
Gotta think that episode was put in just to appease some small minority that was whining that there was not enough fighting. They could have covered every important event that happened in that episode with a 10 minute arc and used 50 minutes for something else, anything else.
The promise to return was the work of the TV show writers.Uh, so? are you implying that Sam living or dying is somehow different from what GRRM wrote?
or just his comment "I promise to return! boohohoohoo!" That, I can concede.
There's a group of 100,000 wildlings to aim at. So you don't need pinpoint accuracy.I got mixed messages as to the height of the wall. Haven't they said it was 700 feet? At that height a standard bow would be about useless. The slightest wind would make the arrows go so far off course.
That's my point. There are a shitload of things happening all over the place, you've got the Wall and the war between the Ironmen and Bolton in the North, Sandor/Arya and Brienne/Podrick god knows where, Sansa and Petyr trying to pretty much steal control of the Aerie, Danny and her dragons, Messandrei bathing, Stannis doing something else and the fallout of the Mountain vs the Viper and they cover NONE of it to focus an entire episode on what exactly? A minor skirmish that was not even a decisive victory for either side. So much story to coherently cram into 10 1-hour chapters and now they have to cram the same story into only 9 1-hour chapters because they pissed away an entire chapter on nothing.i think the real problem is there is too much story to coherently cram into 10 1-hour chapters.
Also they originally had several hundred at Castle Black, the vast majority of those got killed off in season 3.Not to mention, basically outside of the North, nobody gives two shits about the Wall. King's Landing has never seen a wildling raid. Occasionally, someone from the NW's will make it there and get access to their dungeons, but generally nobody cares.
Right, because a wilding army 100,000 strong isn't any threat at all, and would have no effect on any other part of the story if it broke through!Worst. Episode. Ever.
Seriously, WTF was that shit? No King's Landing, no Aerie, no Khaleesi, no Tyrion, no Sandor/Arya, no Sansa/Petyr, no Brienne/Podrick, no NOTHING. An entire episode wasted, 10% of the season shot and it didn't advance the storyline one iota. It was just a minor skirmish that didn't solve anything.
Gotta think that episode was put in just to appease some small minority that was whining that there was not enough fighting. They could have covered every important event that happened in that episode with a 10 minute arc and used 50 minutes for something else, anything else.