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Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4
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jacktesterson
Diamond Member
Yes
Text is so much clearer, especially while web browsing. It's probably the biggest thing you would notice with the screen side by side.
Your comparing one of the best screens out there on any Tablet vs a lower resolution but higher quality screen.
I'd recommend going and looking in store to decide yourself.
FWIW, looks like LG is going to start selling the LTE version of the GPad 8.3 through Verizon for $300 off contract starting Thursday. Pretty good price. You can knock an extra $100 off of that by signing a contract and adding it to your share everything plan for $10/mo.
But $300 for just the tablet seems like a good deal. Wonder how many bands it covers.
But $300 for just the tablet seems like a good deal. Wonder how many bands it covers.
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
The screen on this thing is amazing
Brian Stirling
Diamond Member
Yeah, stopped by Best Buy after work today and played with the demo for a bit and yes indeed the screen is gorgeous.
It doesn't look like BB will carry the 32GB version and I'm not sure what the price difference would be if it were available. I can't see a hundred dollar premium for 16GB more and even fifty more is pushing it so it looks like 16GB will be all we get.
Any pointers to decent covers for this?
Brian
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
There is very little available for it. Future Shop/ Best Buy had nothing for it.
I ordered this for a temp solution for a while
My only real complaint about the Device so far its its a tad slippery to hold on to. The Dell Venue and Nexus 7/10 were much easier to grip.
Problem is that the stores in my hometown don't have any LG tablets, it seems to be a distribution issue, because they have the odd Toshiba tablet and the like.
1. This sounds like you think that the LG has a better quality screen but lower resolution, at least the way it is phrased. Is that your view?
2. Is it really? The LG G pad has a ppi over 270, which at the length of a tablet should cross the threshold of where you can't see pixels(which is at 264 ppi or so, at least according to Apple).
3. Have you tried reading extensively on both, whether on the web or on a pdf? You know, like something really long? If so, have you noticed differences in eye strain, if at all?
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
I thought you were wanting me to compare it to the Dell Venue 8 Pro I just had. I have not used a LG G Pad in person.
MadScientist
Platinum Member
Don't doubt that this is a great tablet, but at $400. a bit pricey. Everyone selling at MSRP or more. http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro/4505-3126_7-35833903.html
I've been looking to move up in size from my Nexus 7. The number on my cheapo reading glasses is up to 2.75.
Best Buy has the Lenovo Miix 2 8 32gb on sale this week for $200. Not a fan of Windows 8, but tempting at this price. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-m...&skuId=2341001
I've been looking to move up in size from my Nexus 7. The number on my cheapo reading glasses is up to 2.75.
Best Buy has the Lenovo Miix 2 8 32gb on sale this week for $200. Not a fan of Windows 8, but tempting at this price. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-m...&skuId=2341001
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
Only negative thing I will say - Its slippery. I find it hard to keep a good grip of sometimes.
The Dell Venue Pro 8 and Nexus 7/10 I had previously used were all better in this regard.
The Dell Venue Pro 8 and Nexus 7/10 I had previously used were all better in this regard.
It is pricey but all of the 1600p tablets are around this price. The HDX 8.9", Nexus 10, etc.
TigerDirect sells them and they always have credit card promos so you can get a slight discount using those. Discover for 5% off. Bank of America had a 10% promo recently.
Maximus96
Diamond Member
don't forget to claim your galaxy perks!
http://www.samsung.com/us/register-for-your-galaxy-perks/
$25 credit for Google Play store plus other subscriptions and stuff...you also get $50 in Samsung Hub credits but there's nothing good there sadly...
http://www.samsung.com/us/register-for-your-galaxy-perks/
$25 credit for Google Play store plus other subscriptions and stuff...you also get $50 in Samsung Hub credits but there's nothing good there sadly...
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
Tried out the stock launcher / jumbo flipboard widget. Not for me. Back to Nova. Much better
Commodus
Diamond Member
I happen to be trying a Tab Pro 8.4 and also have an iPad Air (not an iPad mini, although I have used it), so I can compare the platforms side-by-side. My experiences:
- The display is about on par with that of an iPad... no, really. Samsung does have the DPI edge, but the differences in sharpness at typical viewing distances are slight. The colors and brightness are reasonably close on both, although I believe the Note Pro 8.4 might be more accurate than the mini (but not the Air).
- It's fast, but it hitches at times -- when you're swiping over to the Magazine UX, for example. Current-gen iPads are more consistently smooth.
- The interface scaling is generally fine, but you can tell that 2560x1600 isn't quite ideal. You'll occasionally run into menu items that are just a bit too small. And yes, the stereotypes of Android apps on tablets are generally true -- there's a noticeably larger volume of apps that aren't properly optimized. Android has its widgets, of course, although those aren't quite as useful on a tablet as on a phone. You don't need quick-glance info that much when you're sitting on the living room couch.
- Multi-window support is useful, but not quite as good as some would make it out to be. To me, it's a glass house: everything is great... until you have to do something that doesn't fit within those walls. It's a little too easy to run into a situation where Samsung's approach either isn't enough or falls apart (certain links may kick you out of multi-window mode). It suggests that Apple and Microsoft have better approaches: either have apps that were built from the ground-up for windowed use (Microsoft) or stay focused on a good single-app experience (Apple).
- Battery drain is definitely more noticeable. It's not hard to burn down the Tab Pro's charge than the iPad's. And yes, that involves heavy media use on both.
Both the iPad and the Tab Pro seem like worthwhile purchases to me, and the Tab Pro is definitely the most powerful small Android tablet on the market. It just isn't the home run that you'd think it would be at first blush.
- The display is about on par with that of an iPad... no, really. Samsung does have the DPI edge, but the differences in sharpness at typical viewing distances are slight. The colors and brightness are reasonably close on both, although I believe the Note Pro 8.4 might be more accurate than the mini (but not the Air).
- It's fast, but it hitches at times -- when you're swiping over to the Magazine UX, for example. Current-gen iPads are more consistently smooth.
- The interface scaling is generally fine, but you can tell that 2560x1600 isn't quite ideal. You'll occasionally run into menu items that are just a bit too small. And yes, the stereotypes of Android apps on tablets are generally true -- there's a noticeably larger volume of apps that aren't properly optimized. Android has its widgets, of course, although those aren't quite as useful on a tablet as on a phone. You don't need quick-glance info that much when you're sitting on the living room couch.
- Multi-window support is useful, but not quite as good as some would make it out to be. To me, it's a glass house: everything is great... until you have to do something that doesn't fit within those walls. It's a little too easy to run into a situation where Samsung's approach either isn't enough or falls apart (certain links may kick you out of multi-window mode). It suggests that Apple and Microsoft have better approaches: either have apps that were built from the ground-up for windowed use (Microsoft) or stay focused on a good single-app experience (Apple).
- Battery drain is definitely more noticeable. It's not hard to burn down the Tab Pro's charge than the iPad's. And yes, that involves heavy media use on both.
Both the iPad and the Tab Pro seem like worthwhile purchases to me, and the Tab Pro is definitely the most powerful small Android tablet on the market. It just isn't the home run that you'd think it would be at first blush.
Brian Stirling
Diamond Member
I picked up the 8.4 (16GB White WiFi) a couple nights ago and really like the display. The size is just about perfect and is right about the size I'd imagined would be my sweet-spot a couple years ago.
I think the UI is, as others have indicated, a bit glitchy at times and does produce some lag, but I suspect this can be fixed or at least improved with a software update. If not, I'll be looking to root when that becomes available and is stable.
I am still looking for a decent cover but there doesn't appear to be much out there just now. I'd prefer something minimum so as not to increase the bulk very much.
The other thing I'd like to have is a decent car dock for navigation. This tab is about the perfect size for in car navigation given my 57 year old eyes but I suspect Sammy will not be selling a purpose built car dock with this tab. So, if a purpose built dock isn't likely what are the best docks out there that will work nicely with the 8.4?
Lastly, if you're going to be using it for navigation for hours it would be helpful to have external power from the car to power it. Also, since the data would be coming from my phone I'd need to power that from the car as well so that being the case, what car powered USB power adapters would be able to power and charge both the 8.4 tab and my HTC One phone? I'd suspect the tab would want 2A whereas the phone should be good with 1A or so.
Brian
I think the UI is, as others have indicated, a bit glitchy at times and does produce some lag, but I suspect this can be fixed or at least improved with a software update. If not, I'll be looking to root when that becomes available and is stable.
I am still looking for a decent cover but there doesn't appear to be much out there just now. I'd prefer something minimum so as not to increase the bulk very much.
The other thing I'd like to have is a decent car dock for navigation. This tab is about the perfect size for in car navigation given my 57 year old eyes but I suspect Sammy will not be selling a purpose built car dock with this tab. So, if a purpose built dock isn't likely what are the best docks out there that will work nicely with the 8.4?
Lastly, if you're going to be using it for navigation for hours it would be helpful to have external power from the car to power it. Also, since the data would be coming from my phone I'd need to power that from the car as well so that being the case, what car powered USB power adapters would be able to power and charge both the 8.4 tab and my HTC One phone? I'd suspect the tab would want 2A whereas the phone should be good with 1A or so.
Brian
Brian Stirling
Diamond Member
I'm having a weird problem with my week old 8.4 WiFi tab. I noticed that even though I was connected to a WiFi network it wasn't updating gmail. I then noticed that it couldn't connect to YouTube and when I tried to do a search in Google now by voice it bitched that it couldn't connect to Google, but I could still do a Google search from chrome.
The thing of it is that since I could search Google from chrome proved a viable connection but every other Google service, including Google play, was not available and reported either a network or connection problem.
Anyone else see anything like this?
Brian
The thing of it is that since I could search Google from chrome proved a viable connection but every other Google service, including Google play, was not available and reported either a network or connection problem.
Anyone else see anything like this?
Brian
Ravynmagi
Diamond Member
I don't have the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4, so I can't make any direct comparisons, but wanted to make some comments about the LG G Pad 8.3...
1. The LG G Pad 8.3 has one of the crappiest displays I've seen on a tablet since the original Nexus 7. While the colors appear fine, the black and white saturation are horrible and the brightness is mediocre at best. It's fine for everyday stuff like web browsing, reading, but games or movies with dark scenery would be hard.
2. 1920x1200 (270ppi) is good on a 8.3 inch screen. But I can see a difference between this and my 326ppi iPad Mini 2. So there is still room for improvement. However I'm not disappointed with the clarity of the 270ppi on the LG G Pad 8.3.
I've seen the G Pad 8.3 selling as low as $250 on sale, at that price I think it's still a good deal. But at $300 or more, I think it sounds better to spend a little more and go for the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. Main reason I got my G Pad 8.3 is because Verizon has the LTE model for $99 on a 2 year contract.
Whenever I've had this issue (normally when changing pw) nothing solves it except deleting the Google account fully and readding it again.
Ravynmagi
Diamond Member
Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro. That's pretty much it.
There is the LG G Pad 8.3, but I don't think it's nearly as good and don't see much point considering it unless you find it on sale and want to go the cheap route.
Only other thing I can think of is the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, but it's not quite the same form factor. For reasons I don't understand, Amazon still uses huge bezels in both landscape and portrait mode. For a company that should be designing tablets for ebook reading, they don't seem to be making good design decisions. And there is no Google Play either.
Bateluer
Lifer
The display on the TabPro 8.4 is definitely better than the display on the G-Pad, I can personally verify that. But to say the LG model has one of the crappiest displays out there is just flat wrong. I read on mine every night, and the only complaint I can really levy against it is that it doesn't get as bright as the Samsung models. Which, given that I'm reading indoors, isn't even an issue. You will experience no problems playing games with darker scenes, as the display still gets plenty bright enough. We're talking about a lower ability to use the tablet on a bright sunny day outdoors, not anything that will effect day to day use in doors.
To be fair though, my unit does not suffer from the yellow tint that many others reported. Whether that is because I have the GPe version and not the LG version, I don't know.
The LG model also uses a much, much higher quality of build compared to the Samsung. The Samsung, despite the faux leather, still gives off a 'cheap' vibe, while the LG model screams premium with its brushed aluminum chassis.
For being LG's first entry into the tablet market, the G-Pad is an excellent first attempt, if unfortunately named.
Um, Amazon designing the Kindle HDX for e-reading is exactly why is has the larger bezels; so you can comfortably hold the thing. Very few people want to lay their reading device against the palm of their hand because the bezels are too slim to hold. Still, unless your willing to root the Kindle or are already heavily invested in Amazon's ecosystem, get the TabPro or G-Pad. You'll still have access to your Kindle books, just not Amazon video streaming.
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Ravynmagi
Diamond Member
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
You should be able to distinguish all the squares. My Nexus 7 2013 passes this with flying colors. The G Pad 8.3 fails pretty badly, everything before 11 is pretty much indistinguishable, so it's missing out on a lot of levels of black. The white saturation test is similar, lots of levels of white blend together.
And from the XDA forums, I see others struggle with the black levels as well. Some folks are using Screen Adjuster to try to even out the blacks, but that causes a performance hit.
The display is probably fine, but I think LG neglected to calibrate it properly. This feels like the same mistake Google/ASUS did with the first Nexus 7.
I haven't noticed any yellow tinting on my Verizon model (hadn't known that was an issue).
The big bezels allow you to thumb grip it better. And I think larger landscape bezels are needed for this since you can't really palm a tablet in landscape. But it's no coincidence Apple, Samsung, Google, LG, HTC, ASUS, all the biggest tablet manufactures have gone to very slim portrait bezels. And the Kindle e-ink has always had narrow bezels, hopefully Amazon sees the light with it's next generation.
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
The Blacks on the Tab Pro 8.4 are great.
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