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Fvcking French: Concorde crash blamed on U.S. jet

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Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Perhaps I did take your insult at my idea personally ?

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said:
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Because I dont take everything that is said on ATOT to heart ? Because I dont live by or take everything that is on the internet seriously ?

Feel free to defend your idea then. Explain, and cite your sources, how implementing your idea of examining and sweeping EVERY runway at EVERY airport after EVERY takeoff is a good one.

I'll be here.



 
I dont, but if you want to take "Die in a fire" as a PERSONAL real life attack, then I can take what you said as a personal attack too... see what I mean ? It was meant as a friendly stab at you for saying my idea was "totally stupid" and you went and took it to the highest level you could...

-- The reason I said that they should have cleaned the runway is because with todays technology and security measures (or even back in 2000) you would think the other plane would hear something, feel something, see something such as a problem light or something telling that a chunk of their plane broke off... As well as people watching the runway for this exact occurance or even for birds that might get hit, etc... You would think someone would have noticed something and they would have got the airport clean.

Not once did I mention that they should clean the runway after EVERY flight, but you sure read it that way...
 
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I dont, but if you want to take "Die in a fire" as a PERSONAL real life attack, then I can take what you said as a personal attack too... see what I mean ? It was meant as a friendly stab at you for saying my idea was "totally stupid" and you went and took it to the highest level you could...

You could see, from the responses to your post, that I was not the only one who took it as an attack. And I did not once call YOU stupid, I called your IDEA stupid. Because it is.

And, for some odd reason, I do not find your wish that I die in a fire to be "friendly", but whatever...

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
-- The reason I said that they should have cleaned the runway is because with todays technology and security measures (or even back in 2000) you would think the other plane would hear something, feel something, see something such as a problem light or something telling that a chunk of their plane broke off... As well as people watching the runway for this exact occurance or even for birds that might get hit, etc... You would think someone would have noticed something and they would have got the airport clean.

Ah, but you see, modern airplanes do not have sensors monitoring every piece of the airplane, much less non-spec parts installed in violation of the USAA rules. And airports do not have people watching the runways who are not in the tower any more. And I challenge you to spot a 2 foot long, few inch wide piece of metal falling off a plane from several hundred yards away without binoculars while simultaneously monitoring several runways where planes are taking off/landing, on average, every 25 seconds. You can do that, right?

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Not once did I mention that they should clean the runway after EVERY flight, but you sure read it that way...

True, you did not specifically mention every flight, so let's clarify your position.

So, in your mind, what would be the acceptable number of cycles on a runway before all flight traffic is halted while someone gets out a broom? Every other? Every five? Every ten? Every 100? Figuring 100 takeoffs per sweep, and 25 seconds per takeoff, that's a 30 minute downtime every 42 minutes. Figuring one takeoff per 25 seconds, the 30 minutes spent cleaning a runway (and this is a vast underestimate, since runways are huge) is 72 flights that can't take off. Again, multiplied out by every runway at every airport, this is a significant drop in efficiency (my math shows... about a 42% drop).

A drop that could be avoided if an American airline had not tried to be cheap and circumvent the rules. So this is France's fault how again?

 
Some heavy neffing in this thread. When did "get over it" become the new comeback? How unoriginal. Let's try a bit harder fellas.
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
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CERGY-PONTOISE, France (Reuters) -- A metal strip that fell off a Continental Airlines jet and a design fault in Concorde led to the supersonic jet's crash outside Paris in 2000, which killed 113 people, an official report on Tuesday.

So you can't take the truth? Just get over it. They actually matched the missing piece to that plane.
Move on, nothing to see here. Oh and without the French London would still be the capital.

😉
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
They'll do anythign to take blame off themselves...

Regardless if it came off an American plane or not, they should have cleaned the runway...

runways aren't swept after every takeoff.

Excuse me, but if debris is found, aircraft on approach are told to abort their landing and all takeoffs are halted until such debris is removed.

This happened to me in August as I was coming back from San Francisco.

The problem here is that there that the debris fell off the plane taking off just before the Concorde.
Once again, just get over it.
 
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

heh. don't apologize. I gave this thread the title I did because I wanted to stir up a $hit storm.

VIVA LA FRANC!
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

heh. don't apologize. I gave this thread the title I did because I wanted to stir up a $hit storm.

VIVA LA FRANC!
Dammit, I made a perfectly good cookie plane and it won't post right. :frown:


 
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

I, for one, am not "neffing".

I am waiting for you to either explain how to implement your idea about sweeping the runways without bankrupting every airline or admit that what you said was an insipid idea and you posted it only to increase your e-penis/postcount. That's part of debating. Arguing a point providing evidence to backup your stance. Your claim is that the French are at fault for not providing due diligence in sweeping the runways. My claim is that the French are not at fault because of negligence on the part of Continental airlines. I have provided numbers, statistics, and cited my sources as to why your idea is impossible to implement. You have provided personal attacks and "What's up man?" responses and avoided discussing the issue at hand.

If anyone needs to apologize, it's you. The rest of us "all" are at least on topic.
 
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

heh. don't apologize. I gave this thread the title I did because I wanted to stir up a $hit storm.

VIVA LA FRANC!
Dammit, I made a perfectly good cookie plane and it won't post right. :frown:

LOL

Is THAT what that was? 😛
 
Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

heh. don't apologize. I gave this thread the title I did because I wanted to stir up a $hit storm.

VIVA LA FRANC!
Dammit, I made a perfectly good cookie plane and it won't post right. :frown:

LOL

Is THAT what that was? 😛
It looked pretty good in 'preview' but wouldn't post right. 🙁

 
So you expected Continental to say "Yup that was ours. Whoops! Our bad."? Especially after both the US and French reports concluded that the titanium strip fell off the Continental DC-10. And the US report went on to say that the strip was in non-compliance with USCA standards and was installed in violation of the rules. You expected anything other than full denial of liability in the deaths of 113 people?

Riiiiiiight.

Most likely Continental's legal team advised them that fighting the sure-to-come lawsuits was cheaper/better/easier than accepting responsibility before this even gets to court.

Bah. It's not worth arguing any more since no one seems interested in arguing the merits of the findings. Continue with your France bashing. I'm done with this thread.
 
Originally posted by: BrianA
So you expected Continental to say "Yup that was ours. Whoops! Our bad."? Especially after both the US and French reports concluded that the titanium strip fell off the Continental DC-10. And the US report went on to say that the strip was in non-compliance with USCA standards and was installed in violation of the rules. You expected anything other than full denial of liability in the deaths of 113 people?

Riiiiiiight.

Most likely Continental's legal team advised them that fighting the sure-to-come lawsuits was cheaper/better/easier than accepting responsibility before this even gets to court.

Bah. It's not worth arguing any more since no one seems interested in arguing the merits of the findings. Continue with your France bashing. I'm done with this thread.

France sucks.
 
Originally posted by: BrianA
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

I, for one, am not "neffing".

I am waiting for you to either explain how to implement your idea about sweeping the runways without bankrupting every airline or admit that what you said was an insipid idea and you posted it only to increase your e-penis/postcount. That's part of debating. Arguing a point providing evidence to backup your stance. Your claim is that the French are at fault for not providing due diligence in sweeping the runways. My claim is that the French are not at fault because of negligence on the part of Continental airlines. I have provided numbers, statistics, and cited my sources as to why your idea is impossible to implement. You have provided personal attacks and "What's up man?" responses and avoided discussing the issue at hand.

If anyone needs to apologize, it's you. The rest of us "all" are at least on topic.

One thing is for sure, if they had swept the runway prior to takeoff, there would be some more french in the world today.
 
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: BrianA
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
I think we should all apologize to GTaudiophile for ruining his thread with our neffing...

Sorry GTaudiophile!

I, for one, am not "neffing".

I am waiting for you to either explain how to implement your idea about sweeping the runways without bankrupting every airline or admit that what you said was an insipid idea and you posted it only to increase your e-penis/postcount. That's part of debating. Arguing a point providing evidence to backup your stance. Your claim is that the French are at fault for not providing due diligence in sweeping the runways. My claim is that the French are not at fault because of negligence on the part of Continental airlines. I have provided numbers, statistics, and cited my sources as to why your idea is impossible to implement. You have provided personal attacks and "What's up man?" responses and avoided discussing the issue at hand.

If anyone needs to apologize, it's you. The rest of us "all" are at least on topic.

One thing is for sure, if they had swept the runway prior to takeoff, there would be some more french in the world today.

Couple more French but most were German.

 
Originally posted by: brigden
It's a major shame they pulled the Concorde out of service. A major shame.

Didn't they pull it out of service because of the cost associated with keeping it flight ready and the horrible safety issues associated with it?
 
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