Funny story - Porsche GT3 vs. Ricers

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: BoYRaCeR
I love the GT3... and the Supra... but given the fact that the GT3 is faster without the need for a turbo just blows me away. :Q That's actually my favorite 911... the 911 Turbo and the GT2 just looks like they could whoop ass... this one is much more understated.

The GT3 is non-turboed?? whats its hp, etc?? More info on it please?

3.6 liter flat 6

360 HP normally aspirated

 

[Pooteh]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Radiohead
Silly ricers, stickers are for kids

BUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH...FUNNIEST POST OF THE DAY!

hehe I would go race a bunch of ricers for $$$ if I had something like a GT3. What a beautiful machine. I still cant believe a civic would try to race a Porsche hahaha how stupid are they.

Spac3d

if you had the dollars you could also get a McLaren F1 then you could tear the gt3 a new one

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: Pooteh
it all depends on whether your bragging about beating cars that cost from less half or less then a quarter of your cars cost. kind of silly.

I've come across tons of Mustang/Camaro/Corvette drivers with their V-8s that pick on 4- and 6-cylinder cars. How silly is that?

Don't you have some clear taillights to install or something?

Edit-- How much is the McLaren?

 

[StageLeft]

Sweet BUDHA!

 

[Pooteh]

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: Pooteh
it all depends on whether your bragging about beating cars that cost from less half or less then a quarter of your cars cost. kind of silly.

I've come across tons of Mustang/Camaro/Corvette drivers with their V-8s that pick on 4- and 6-cylinder cars. How silly is that?

Don't you have some clear taillights to install or something?

Edit-- How much is the McLaren?

v8/v6 comparisons have nothing to do with what i was saying. i was talking about cost. if your car cost a lot more, yes it better win. um duh?

the Mclaren is 800k i believe. but for that you get a nice loaded road car that can hit 240MPH and 0-60 in the low 3sec range. after a certain cost point, its all the same

 

[ObiDon]

v8/v6 comparisons have nothing to do with what i was saying. i was talking about cost. if your car cost a lot more, yes it better win.

Different aspect of the same type of situation. All those gearheads with their big engines should always win but they don't.

 

[BigPotato]

isn't the mclaren a cool 1 million ?

 

[BigSmooth]

Mmmmm.... GT3... Here's a nice pic

 

[clarkmo]

pics

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: lizium
You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

Well if it had alot of stuff in it either
a.) the guy didn't know how to drive or
b.) no engine work was done

because I know for a fact a TT Supra with a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set on 17.5 lbs runs a 0-60 in 4.3, has 430 whp, and hits 165 mph rather quickly. And those are minor mods, a supra engine can safely handle 23 lbs of boost with no modification. Total price for this...well for me its 17 grand, but if you bought a $32,000 supra those mods would run you about 2 grand installed..total $34,000. Gotta stick up for my new love.

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Pooteh

Originally posted by: lizium You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

sure you can spend a lot on a supra, but you really don't know what that supra had at all. how fast is a 70k supra? how fast is a stock gt3 i'm too lazy to look it up. either way, its a huge price difference. the gt3 must win, or look really really really stupid.

For about $70,000 including the car you can get a 1200 hp Supra...that's plenty fast considering you'd be running in the low 10s on street tires.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: lizium
You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

Well if it had alot of stuff in it either
a.) the guy didn't know how to drive or
b.) no engine work was done

because I know for a fact a TT Supra with a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set on 17.5 lbs runs a 0-60 in 4.3, has 430 whp, and hits 165 mph rather quickly. And those are minor mods, a supra engine can safely handle 23 lbs of boost with no modification. Total price for this...well for me its 17 grand, but if you bought a $32,000 supra those mods would run you about 2 grand installed..total $34,000. Gotta stick up for my new love.

Gentlemen, it seems we have a ricer among us . Like it was said, souped up Supra is still a Supra. GT3 is a GT3 .

 

[lizium]

Now lets see.... A 2001 Supra twin turbo would run you about $55,000 + $34,000 worth of mods, and you get a $89,000 worth of ugliness and still 165mph?

Ok, i called this guy up, and he said that the car sold for $125,000 (only, hehe). It can hit 0-60 in 4.2 - 4.4 and top speed is 190mph.

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: lizium You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

Well if it had alot of stuff in it either a.) the guy didn't know how to drive or b.) no engine work was done because I know for a fact a TT Supra with a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set on 17.5 lbs runs a 0-60 in 4.3, has 430 whp, and hits 165 mph rather quickly. And those are minor mods, a supra engine can safely handle 23 lbs of boost with no modification. Total price for this...well for me its 17 grand, but if you bought a $32,000 supra those mods would run you about 2 grand installed..total $34,000. Gotta stick up for my new love.

Gentlemen, it seems we have a ricer among us . Like it was said, souped up Supra is still a Supra. GT3 is a GT3 .

I'd like to hear your definition of ricer. Sure I like the GT3...of course IMO it's for rich pricks who have way too much money. Of course, if I had a choice of a free car, I would choose the GT3 over the Supra, but you work with what you can afford, and the Supra is not a "ricermobile" unless one adds gawdy aluminum wings and stickers galore.

 

[lizium]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Pooteh

Originally posted by: lizium You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

sure you can spend a lot on a supra, but you really don't know what that supra had at all. how fast is a 70k supra? how fast is a stock gt3 i'm too lazy to look it up. either way, its a huge price difference. the gt3 must win, or look really really really stupid.

For about $70,000 including the car you can get a <a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.suprastore.com/stag8upkit12.html" target=blank>1200 hp Supra</A>...that's plenty fast considering you'd be running in the low 10s on street tires.

WTF is this? I dont see 1200HP, all i see is 150hp's worth of NOS.

What are we comparing here? The GT3 is a NORMALLY aspirated Porsche (no turbos, no supercharger, no NOS, no special intakes or exhausts) vs. a Supra with twin turbos, NOS and all this fudgeugly sh1t, and i think the GT3 will still own it on the track.

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: lizium
Now lets see.... A 2001 Supra twin turbo would run you about $55,000 + $34,000 worth of mods, and you get a $89,000 worth of ugliness and still 165mph? Ok, i called this guy up, and he said that the car sold for $125,000 (only, hehe). It can hit 0-60 in 4.2 - 4.4 and top speed is 190mph.

Supra production was stopped in 1999. And 165 isn't near the top speed, that's just when I felt unsafe going any faster. The Jun Supra 1200hp hits 249.9 mph. And I think the Supra happens to look very nice. Top Speed of 235 mph with a 1/4 trap speed of 150+; 1/4 time of 10.41

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: lizium You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

Well if it had alot of stuff in it either a.) the guy didn't know how to drive or b.) no engine work was done because I know for a fact a TT Supra with a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set on 17.5 lbs runs a 0-60 in 4.3, has 430 whp, and hits 165 mph rather quickly. And those are minor mods, a supra engine can safely handle 23 lbs of boost with no modification. Total price for this...well for me its 17 grand, but if you bought a $32,000 supra those mods would run you about 2 grand installed..total $34,000. Gotta stick up for my new love.

Gentlemen, it seems we have a ricer among us . Like it was said, souped up Supra is still a Supra. GT3 is a GT3 .

I'd like to hear your definition of ricer.

Someone who installs a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set . Of course, huge wings and stickers are just icing on the cake . I can't help it but that "Hi boost" reminds me of "Turbo Boost" from "Knight Rider"

Sure I like the GT3...of course IMO it's for rich pricks who have way too much money. Of course, if I had a choice of a free car, I would choose the GT3 over the Supra, but you work with what you can afford, and the Supra is not a "ricermobile" unless one adds gawdy aluminum wings and stickers galore.

Toyota = Rice. That includes the Supra

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: lizium You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

Well if it had alot of stuff in it either a.) the guy didn't know how to drive or b.) no engine work was done because I know for a fact a TT Supra with a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set on 17.5 lbs runs a 0-60 in 4.3, has 430 whp, and hits 165 mph rather quickly. And those are minor mods, a supra engine can safely handle 23 lbs of boost with no modification. Total price for this...well for me its 17 grand, but if you bought a $32,000 supra those mods would run you about 2 grand installed..total $34,000. Gotta stick up for my new love.

Gentlemen, it seems we have a ricer among us . Like it was said, souped up Supra is still a Supra. GT3 is a GT3 .

I'd like to hear your definition of ricer.

Someone who installs a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set . Of course, huge wings and stickers are just icing on the cake . I can't help it but that "Hi boost" reminds me of "Turbo Boost" from "Knight Rider"

Sure I like the GT3...of course IMO it's for rich pricks who have way too much money. Of course, if I had a choice of a free car, I would choose the GT3 over the Supra, but you work with what you can afford, and the Supra is not a "ricermobile" unless one adds gawdy aluminum wings and stickers galore.

Toyota = Rice. That includes the Supra

Hi boost refers to the two switches on the Greddy Profec B, low boost for daily driving or hi boost for track. Eh, you can call whatever you want rice, everyone has their opinions.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: lizium You missed the point. The ricers never learn, they dont know what a GT3 is, and think their 110HP civics can somehow run with the big boys. From what i heard, that supra had a lot of stuff in it, which can easily run to 70 or more grand total.

Well if it had alot of stuff in it either a.) the guy didn't know how to drive or b.) no engine work was done because I know for a fact a TT Supra with a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set on 17.5 lbs runs a 0-60 in 4.3, has 430 whp, and hits 165 mph rather quickly. And those are minor mods, a supra engine can safely handle 23 lbs of boost with no modification. Total price for this...well for me its 17 grand, but if you bought a $32,000 supra those mods would run you about 2 grand installed..total $34,000. Gotta stick up for my new love.

Gentlemen, it seems we have a ricer among us . Like it was said, souped up Supra is still a Supra. GT3 is a GT3 .

I'd like to hear your definition of ricer.

Someone who installs a downpipe, exhaust system, boost controller with hi boost set . Of course, huge wings and stickers are just icing on the cake . I can't help it but that "Hi boost" reminds me of "Turbo Boost" from "Knight Rider"

Sure I like the GT3...of course IMO it's for rich pricks who have way too much money. Of course, if I had a choice of a free car, I would choose the GT3 over the Supra, but you work with what you can afford, and the Supra is not a "ricermobile" unless one adds gawdy aluminum wings and stickers galore.

Toyota = Rice. That includes the Supra

Supra Mk IV's are not rice in any way, shape, or form.

Viper GTS

 

[BigPotato]

i like my toyota camry.

 

[Pooteh]

Gentlemen, it seems we have a ricer among us . Like it was said, souped up Supra is still a Supra. GT3 is a GT3 .

oh shutup. a fat ass 747 can beat any of those babies and it weighs a ton.

 

[lizium]

Dude, you can agrue all you want but we are comparing different things here. Sure your souped up Supra has its large numbers (in theory), but the car was not designed for such high speeds, and its a toyota after all. You said it yourself, you felt plain scared at 165mph, while a GT3 or a GT2 can hit 190+ MHP and still be VERY stable and drivable, and you can cruise at this speed for miles, while your 1200 HP supra can hit that only in a straight line with NOS, for a very short time.

I also think that all this crazy work will get your car used up fairly quickly... I doubt that you will have a good healthy engine in that Supra after doing a few NOS trips. I remember reading about the Lingerfilten (or whatever) Corvette which could hit 220MHP, but only in a straight line and the engine would overheat and missfire after doing that, so they had to rebuild it everytime

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: lizium
Dude, you can agrue all you want but we are comparing different things here. Sure your souped up Supra has its large numbers (in theory), but the car was not designed for such high speeds, and its a toyota after all. You said it yourself, you felt plain scared at 165mph, while a GT3 or a GT2 can hit 190+ MHP and still be VERY stable and drivable, and you can cruise at this speed for miles, while your 1200 HP supra can hit that only in a straight line with NOS, for a very short time. I also think that all this crazy work will get your car used up fairly quickly... I doubt that you will have a good healthy engine in that Supra after doing a few NOS trips. I remember reading about the Lingerfiller (or whatever) Corvette which could hit 220MHP, but only in a straight line and the engine would overheat and missfire after doing that, so they had to rebuild it everytime

First off, I'm not running Nitrous, nor would I ever. Second, I the ride was perfectly smooth @ 165, the fact is that I value my life, and going that fast is stupid (although the Supra was designed to be a fast car). I agree we're talking about two completely different cars. Your's costs more than three time's mine and thus should be better in all aspects. However, for the practical person who wants a daily driver and a track car without spending major major bucks, the Supra is, IMHO, the best car for the job.

 

[Pooteh]

you have to be kidding yourself if you think any car doing 170+ mph isn't doing some pretty good wear on its engine. these are internal combustion engines, not turbines


and as the guy said, top speed was 240, so its not all boost.


and it still comes down to this, you are in a pissing match with a car that at best costs half as much

 

[boyRacer]

I like both cars... honestly... but people who think Supras are ricemobiles haven't see what it could do. A BPU++ Supra will run with a 911 Turbo... I've seen it with my own eyes. A $70,000 Supra is something you'd have to think twice about messing with. That stupid gawd damn movie ruined it for that car and the RX-7... now people think that those cars have magical buttons that will make them go faster just like that. Sorry... those riceboys out there who don't know jack isht about driving and what the hell NOT to put on the car ruin it for car enthusiasts in general... and just to let you know... there are two kinds os Supras... one that is boosted and one that isn't. The normally aspirated ones are usually the ones ricers get since it's cheaper. The Turbo Supras are nothing to laugh at unless they were stock... especially on a roll-on... it will most likely be left for dead at stoplight races due to the lag and its weight... but once you modify it... that car will pull in almost anything short of $200,000 after 3rd gear when the 2nd Turbo spools.

The GT3 engine was based on the 911GT1 of 1998 that totally dominated the GT1 class at LeMans... its one hell of an engine... and that car was made for a racetrack... it held the track record momentarily at the full-length Nurburgring... I'm sure the GT2 should've eclipsed that by now.