fresh home build coming soon

[skyking]

I burned the candles late last night, working off the roof with the lift below to mask off windows so we could paint today.
I got a coat on every stick we had nailed on.

We'll side our way up here and finish the north tomorrow, and get the rest of the doors installed.


Nice sky tonight, lots of neat features to it.

 

[skyking]

trim color


The stack of doors is shrinking

 

[skyking]

readying for paint tomorrow.

 

[snoopy7548]

Paint it neon pink!

 

[BoomerD]

Paint it neon pink!

Or Seahawks Go-Go Green!

 

[skyking]

yeah? no

 

[deadlyapp]

yeah? no
*snip*

I've heard mixed opinions, but are you supposed to caulk the butted ends of the siding? Seems like it isn't actually required for warranty?

 

[Greenman]

I've heard mixed opinions, but are you supposed to caulk the butted ends of the siding? Seems like it isn't actually required for warranty?

It doesn't work very well. You have to be really neat or the paint will flash where you got caulking on the siding, and when the siding expands it sticks out like bird crap on the house. The only thing that I ever used was Bearskin flashing at the seams to protect the wrap.

 

[skyking]

I've heard mixed opinions, but are you supposed to caulk the butted ends of the siding? Seems like it isn't actually required for warranty?

Seems like you did not RTFM like I did.
I do not care for the bearskin product and each seam has a metal flashing behind it.

 

[Micrornd]

I've never seen rubberized roofing designed for traffic, occasional use only. Is yours different or will you be using sleepers under decking?

 

[skyking]

I've never seen rubberized roofing designed for traffic, occasional use only. Is yours different or will you be using sleepers under decking?

Check out this link. It is a comparison of several of the manufacturers. Most are in BC.
https://citywidebuildingenvelope.ca...dekmaster-weatherdek-decking-dectec-deksmart/

It is a pretty informative article.

 

[skyking]

It's been a bit crazy. Bill and I cut in most of the trim yesterday, and then the gutter guys text me and say they will be there tomorrow.
YIKES!
I finished trim painting the corners that the downspouts are on, by cellphone light. I had to abandon finishing the windows.
The drip edge on the roof was too long and at 24 Ga, really difficult to work with. I had offered the lift, but I ended up operating it most of the day as we snipped and bent up the drip edge and got the gutters installed.
It happened so fast, I did not take a picture of completed paint before the gutters LOL.
Downspouts are Custom Built metals "storm gray"
Hello, meet Cascade Metals "Slate Gray" as paint matched by Rodda.




I stayed with a close-ish match to the roof color for the gutter itself, rather than a contrast.

 

[skyking]

Paint is done and the lift is off rent. I put snow bars all around.

 

[iRONic]

What is this ‘snow bar’ of which you speak?

 

[skyking]

What is this ‘snow bar’ of which you speak?

Google search for snow bars on metal roofs.
you want to keep the snow on and have it melt harmlessly.
It acts like an avalanche otherwise. It gets to that perfect slip face temperature and it comes off en masse, causing all sorts of damage and potential injuries.
It does not snow much there, but for this rare phenomenon where the continental cold Fraser River outflow from the mountains of British Columbia meets one of those pineapple express events *just right*, and it dumps 1~3'.
I spent about $250 on S5! clamps and solar rails. This is preferable to destroyed beds below the roof, broken basement windows, injuries. Ripped off gutters.
This little snow last year is typical.

But when it slid off the north roof onto the walkway, it re-froze and hung around for a week out there. No bueno.

the gutter moves that line out 5". Still a mess I want to minimize.

 

[iRONic]

I’ve seen them before but didn’t know what they were called. Thanks

 

[skyking]

there is an inch and a half where snow could slip by if it was a small accumulation. My hope is that little bit would snag on the gutter. if not I will screw on some extensions down closer to the roof.
Here is what they look like. In this instance we were using it as safety rail while siding, masking and painting the upper cupola.

 

[deadlyapp]

Seems like you did not RTFM like I did.
I do not care for the bearskin product and each seam has a metal flashing behind it.

Absolutely did not read the manual and haven't done siding yet (god help I never have to). It's done quite significantly here in Texas but I think it is more for appearance reason. Houses are wrapped and foamed and perhaps newer siding is flashed at the joints also.

Looked at a 2002 built house this week that had mostly all cracked butt joints and of course an inspector would note it but doubtful it affects integrity of water proofing in any way.

 

[Greenman]

Absolutely did not read the manual and haven't done siding yet (god help I never have to). It's done quite significantly here in Texas but I think it is more for appearance reason. Houses are wrapped and foamed and perhaps newer siding is flashed at the joints also.

Looked at a 2002 built house this week that had mostly all cracked butt joints and of course an inspector would note it but doubtful it affects integrity of water proofing in any way.

Moisture going through the seams in the siding is almost inconsequential. Sunlight going through them is the problem as it will break down the moisture barrier behind the siding. Then that bit of moisture coming through will do damage. That's the entire point of a second layer at the seams.

 

[skyking]

I use the 5x8 metal flashing shingle and get a nail in it. That is bomb proof.
@deadlyapp
The siding grows. it is LP smartside and they specify a huge 3/16" gap for that, and partially because they also have 16' sticks. Long sticks = more potential for growth.
As @Greenman says, the caulking poops out of there and really looks bad if you fill it out on the field.
I will take photos as time goes on and monitor the gaps.
The proper installation is to prime all cut ends, and then I hosed paint in there too.

 

[Greenman]

I never had the opportunity to use Smartside. Pretty much everything I built was stucco or Hardiplank.

 

[Sukhoi]

I never had the opportunity to use Smartside. Pretty much everything I built was stucco or Hardiplank.

You have an opinion between the two? Need to decide what to put on the front of my house to replace the plywood siding. The back is stucco so the default would be stucco to match that. However, there's a foundation crack (which barely moves) along the main front wall, and I'm a bit worried stucco will eventually crack up the entire wall there.

 

[Greenman]

You have an opinion between the two? Need to decide what to put on the front of my house to replace the plywood siding. The back is stucco so the default would be stucco to match that. However, there's a foundation crack (which barely moves) along the main front wall, and I'm a bit worried stucco will eventually crack up the entire wall there.

I don't have an opinion because I never used Smartside, and never seen a ten year old installation. I have heard it's a good product from other contractors.

I've seen limited Hardiplank failures, because the material is somewhat fragile and subject to wind damage. I never had an issue because I always used roofing nails to apply it, used pre primed material, and coated it with top quality acrylic paint. I recently looked at a place I sided with HP around 20 years back, it looks as good as the day I put the stuff on. It's been repainted once in that time frame.

 

[skyking]

Smartside is stout. We made some fancy cut window tops and bottoms a full 16' long and one guy could take them up on the lift.
That's a full stick between the lines with not much meat left in it. Hardy does not do that.

 

[skyking]

The last few days on the job have cured me. I told them they need to find my replacement, STAT!!
I had thoughts of sticking it out through the end of this particular job, working 1~2 days a week was getting it done OK.
Not anymore. The honeymoon is over, the rain is here with a vengeance.
The soils are bad and it makes for miserable slow going.

One of several puss pockets I had to excise and replace with crushed rock so the plumbers had something to work on.