I can't decide whether you are being jokingly sarcastic in a crude way or if you actually mean that.
I just snorted French Roast coffee outta my nose! LoL
I've stopped French products as well. Sorry, I know Yoplait isn't shipped here, but we've all gotta make choices.
well do you believe anything that it is written?
please be critical when you read an article
do you know how many american depends on french company for their jobs
look out and you wont tell such things anymore
nowadays we have a world economy
hurting a nation economy is hurting oneself
well do you believe anything that it is written?
please be critical when you read an article
do you know how many american depends on french company for their jobs
look out and you wont tell such things anymore
nowadays we have a world economy
hurting a nation economy is hurting oneself[/quote]
So you explain the article by saying that it is false?
The rest of your argument ignores the realities of regional economies. If things are as you state, then would not ALL industrial economies that are influenced by, or benefit from, globalization have the same growth rates?
They do not.
So you explain the article by saying that it is false?
The rest of your argument ignores the realities of regional economies. If things are as you state, then would not ALL industrial economies that are influenced by, or benefit from, globalization have the same growth rates?
They do not.[/quote]
i didnt say the article was false
i said u have to be critical when u read an article u mustnt be gullible
there are some things true and some things false
yes there are regional economies but dont tell me that if the us were a closed country without international trade they would be alive and kicking????
i didnt say the article was false
i said u have to be critical when u read an article u mustnt be gullible
there are some things true and some things false
yes there are regional economies but dont tell me that if the us were a closed country without international trade they would be alive and kicking????[/quote]
Hey, Jimbo, he's right to an extent. It is possible to harm the French economy without damaging the U.S. to any appreciable degree, but there is significant comingling that makes economic impact there felt here in some way. Look at wine. Sure, the majority of the money goes to the vintners in France, but there are still importers and wine store owners here (uh, in the States I mean, since I'm in Japan) who are affected by the boycott especially certain ones that might focus on French wine. Also, restaurants may see a decline in wine sales which will affect their bottomline.
That being said, the French don't understand the process either. They love to attack McDonald's and Coca-Cola, not realizing that those companies in particular almost exclusively employ French workers and somewhere in the neighborhood of 95% French products in their businesses. It's all about symbolism though.
Hey, Jimbo, he's right to an extent. It is possible to harm the French economy without damaging the U.S. to any appreciable degree, but there is significant comingling that makes economic impact there felt here in some way. Look at wine. Sure, the majority of the money goes to the vintners in France, but there are still importers and wine store owners here (uh, in the States I mean, since I'm in Japan) who are affected by the boycott especially certain ones that might focus on French wine. Also, restaurants may see a decline in wine sales which will affect their bottomline.
That being said, the French don't understand the process either. They love to attack McDonald's and Coca-Cola, not realizing that those companies in particular use almost exclusively French workers and somewhere in the neighborhood of 95% French products in their businesses. It's all about symbolism though.[/quote]
sorry to disagree but i never see anyone attack coca-cola
it is true about mac donalds by a small proportion of farmer
you just have to look at the financial result of mac do in france, they are very well
In france fast food appears not so long time ago
i can remember time when there was no fast food in france but many little restaurant where you could have lunch for the same price (a mac do here cost around 7-8 euros)
the fast food "destroyed" many of these little restaurants, that s why there is a little resntment against it
OOH La La! Wonder how ole chirpac feels about this backlash.
After giving this careful consideration and extreme in depth research, we can avoid anything french, except french maids.
Wonder how ole chirpac feels about this backlash. After giving this careful consideration and extreme in depth research, we can avoid anything french, except french maids.
Originally posted by: blade
OOH La La!
After giving this careful consideration and extreme in depth research, we can avoid anything french, except french maids.
lol do it
but i am sure you will buy something by french company even if you dont know it
and it is chirac not chirpac
when i speak of bush i say bush not blush
have a nice day
The gathering of jingoists... Don't forget to order some of those freedom fries when you go to McD next time
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guigui38 - The USA is still a major market for Fench wine. Especially the higher priced French wines.
I speak French well and can read it as well and have gone on business trips and vacations to France quite a few times (I was in Aix on 9/11, for example). I now that the wine industry is politically important in France and that they are hurting a little bit and are getting worried.
If you knew my history here, you would see that I'm used to be one of the few defenders of the French when the French-bashing would start.
I'm still not anti "French". I am upset with the political decision that France made over Iraq and feel that France's government should suffer severe consequences for their actions. I know the French press is getting worried that Chirac took such an extreme stance on something that has ended up being much, much easier for the coalition than was thought.
Michael
I speak French well and can read it as well and have gone on business trips and vacations to France quite a few times (I was in Aix on 9/11, for example). I now that the wine industry is politically important in France and that they are hurting a little bit and are getting worried.
If you knew my history here, you would see that I'm used to be one of the few defenders of the French when the French-bashing would start.
I'm still not anti "French". I am upset with the political decision that France made over Iraq and feel that France's government should suffer severe consequences for their actions. I know the French press is getting worried that Chirac took such an extreme stance on something that has ended up being much, much easier for the coalition than was thought.
Michael
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Recently dumped my Michelin's for Dunlop SP Sport A2's at Sears on sale now for $10 off, what kind of car?
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have also switched to California wine as well, catch myself looking at where a product was manufactured or even the type of name of the product...If it sounds French, i will look for something else.
yes the high priced wine are targetted to the us mainly but due to its highly price it is not available to most of ppl and i dont think rich ppl will boycott french wines because they are very good.
yes a really working boycott over french wine will be a serious pb but it is not the case
i was a little upset too with the political position of france as i am upset with the political position of the us
all this story is about money and power a little of security (on this point i wonder why the us attacked iraq and not north korea who has the nuclear bomb)
i dont think that the situation is ok in iraq
winning the war was not a pb if you consider the power you got there
organizing the after sadam will be a real pb because us will be seen as an occupying army
what will they do against demonstration????
Sadam dealt with them with harsh repression but the us army cannot do that
would you accept that a foreign army came to free you and then occupy your country and ruled it (trhough an ex general which is not the best decision)? i dont think so? I know i wont.
i found it normal the us should take the large part in the reconstruction part but not with occupying the country?
dont you think so?
Not everyone look at the american culture as the best one.
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Thanks for that! Goodyear or Cooper are brands that will also work just fine.
I'm serious. I'm not giving those fruity frogs another dime.
Head to Wal-Mart. They sell Good Year Viva 2 (all-season tires) with 60,000 mile warranties and Good Year Viva (Touring tires) with 80,000 mile warranties. The prices are actually quite good.
But we can call em Freedom Maids... Their usefullness is still realized... Hmmm, but those French outfits.... hmmmm.. tough one there.
The French are just squirming because 22% of their Exports (3.5 billion last year) may not have a home in IRAQ now.... I wonder why they were REALLY against a war... hmmmm. And Russia for that matter... They had 61Million in exports in the first quarter of last year to Iraq. These are known exports, wonder about anything under the table.
i will start by asking you one question... do WE REALLY give a damn about those people in Iraq? just think about it... we could careless - why else would we cheer on the massive bombing that took place - and everyone of us knew we would walk right thru as we have done many times before. not one bio-chemical weapon used yet but this was the BIG THREAT - THE REASON we were there. if Saddam had all these weapons of mass destruction why would he not use ANY of them - EVER - in TWO WARS w/ the bush's.
personally, i will be glad when we start thinking for ourselves... no one on these boards knows the real truth about our relations with France, Russia, Iraq, etc. I mean we ALL know why we were in Iraq - ¢¢¢. that and the fact that gwb sr created a dictator so we could do just what we did - well that is my opinion. the middle east have been a target for quit sometime. it's really sad that so many people that will try and justify a war that results from our own excessive lifestyles. don't for a minute think this had anything to do with "weapons of mass destruction" and so on. every country has a right to explore chemical and biological weapons - b/c we sure as hell do here in america. of course Iraq has these materials - b/c we sold them to them. we secretly created Saddam (although its not a big secret anymore) for one reason and one reason only. there are many baseless claims as to why but none of us are really that blind. gwb jr is simply carrying out the rest of the plan. dad created the big bad bath party for son to destroy. i mean it almost went did happen - but thanks to some old election tactics gwb has killed two birds with one stone. covered his dad's involvement (for the most part) w/ Saddam, as well as, securing us another 20-30 years in oil reserves. gwb had to do this immediately - trust me - he wouldn't have gone against the US created UN to get it done otherwise.
in our so called efforts to free Iraq, we killed more innocent people in the two wars than Saddam ever did or even could have for another 50 years.
in the next few years america will have our own personal oil pipeline running from the middle east right into one of our main arteries... a constant fix. remember what i said - our own personal life-line within 5 years it will be set in motion. this couldn't have been done without the wars in Afghanistan and/or Iraq. yes, before the Afghan war we were in talks with Alqueda officials to run this very pipeline and they said HELL NO! six months later, on Sept. 11th 2002, two American jets brought down the two towers in NYC. this is a very sensitive subject, but again i urge you all to search for facts - there is no way this happens and no CIA, FBI, or NO ONE in ALL of our Armed Forces knows on 9/11 - yet on 9/12 we make over 100 - 200 arrests around the world - in 5 or 6 countries! LOL - one day you are oblivious to any terror - but within 24hrs we are making arrests in Germany
?
i will stop here - but i leave you with this... German, Russian, and French officials have a much better barrel of facts than any of us. they knew this was wrong to do. some years ago this wouldn't have been such a big deal to these countries as they we doing similiar things. now that america has separated herself from Russia and maybe China (i doubt were that far ahead of them tho) they can now see this happening to them if they don't go along as america tells them to. in one respect i say to France - don't be wimps - either your in or out. on the other hand i think that this had to be a very big injustice for LONG time allies to speak against this war of mass destruction.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS BUT CALL IT LIKE IT IS!
personally, i will be glad when we start thinking for ourselves... no one on these boards knows the real truth about our relations with France, Russia, Iraq, etc. I mean we ALL know why we were in Iraq - ¢¢¢. that and the fact that gwb sr created a dictator so we could do just what we did - well that is my opinion. the middle east have been a target for quit sometime. it's really sad that so many people that will try and justify a war that results from our own excessive lifestyles. don't for a minute think this had anything to do with "weapons of mass destruction" and so on. every country has a right to explore chemical and biological weapons - b/c we sure as hell do here in america. of course Iraq has these materials - b/c we sold them to them. we secretly created Saddam (although its not a big secret anymore) for one reason and one reason only. there are many baseless claims as to why but none of us are really that blind. gwb jr is simply carrying out the rest of the plan. dad created the big bad bath party for son to destroy. i mean it almost went did happen - but thanks to some old election tactics gwb has killed two birds with one stone. covered his dad's involvement (for the most part) w/ Saddam, as well as, securing us another 20-30 years in oil reserves. gwb had to do this immediately - trust me - he wouldn't have gone against the US created UN to get it done otherwise.
in our so called efforts to free Iraq, we killed more innocent people in the two wars than Saddam ever did or even could have for another 50 years.
in the next few years america will have our own personal oil pipeline running from the middle east right into one of our main arteries... a constant fix. remember what i said - our own personal life-line within 5 years it will be set in motion. this couldn't have been done without the wars in Afghanistan and/or Iraq. yes, before the Afghan war we were in talks with Alqueda officials to run this very pipeline and they said HELL NO! six months later, on Sept. 11th 2002, two American jets brought down the two towers in NYC. this is a very sensitive subject, but again i urge you all to search for facts - there is no way this happens and no CIA, FBI, or NO ONE in ALL of our Armed Forces knows on 9/11 - yet on 9/12 we make over 100 - 200 arrests around the world - in 5 or 6 countries! LOL - one day you are oblivious to any terror - but within 24hrs we are making arrests in Germany
i will stop here - but i leave you with this... German, Russian, and French officials have a much better barrel of facts than any of us. they knew this was wrong to do. some years ago this wouldn't have been such a big deal to these countries as they we doing similiar things. now that america has separated herself from Russia and maybe China (i doubt were that far ahead of them tho) they can now see this happening to them if they don't go along as america tells them to. in one respect i say to France - don't be wimps - either your in or out. on the other hand i think that this had to be a very big injustice for LONG time allies to speak against this war of mass destruction.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS BUT CALL IT LIKE IT IS!
i didnt say the article was false
i said u have to be critical when u read an article u mustnt be gullible
there are some things true and some things false
yes there are regional economies but dont tell me that if the us were a closed country without international trade they would be alive and kicking????[/quote]
Trade between France and the United States benefits France far more than the United States. Even if the United States was not running a trade deficit with France, this would be the case simply because the U.S. has a much larger economy.
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