Franken + T. Boone Pickens = Fireworks

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: senseamp
I guess Franken should have thanked T-Boone for winning him a Senate seat. If T-Boone didn't help defeat Kerry, Bush would not have been president, and many freshman Democrats would not have been voted in on the anti-Bush waves of 2006 and 2008.
Thanks TBP for making GOP a minority party

See, this is what the subject is about. The 2004 election and the swift boat ads. Yet when I mention the unrelenting vehement attacks, even after super majority victory, I get off topic claims of a man stealing water in Texas and deserving it. Yet water claims in Texas wasn't the subject or reason for the attacks.

All I get in response is a full line up of Democrats entirely supportive of the assault.

To which I find my response entirely valid of beware what you wish for. You may escalate the conflict beyond words considering super majority status isn?t enough to sate this conflict and endow you with civility.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Gee, once again Harvey derails a topic with his Bush macros. Can we get a moderator to clean this thread up like they do in other threads where people go blatently off-topic and disrupt the OP's topic?

I wonder if I would be allowed to post a 3 page Obama macro in every thread where Obama isn't even the topic.

OneBigAssMistakeAmerika

Awwwww did he interupt your Obama hate with facts?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: senseamp
I guess Franken should have thanked T-Boone for winning him a Senate seat. If T-Boone didn't help defeat Kerry, Bush would not have been president, and many freshman Democrats would not have been voted in on the anti-Bush waves of 2006 and 2008.
Thanks TBP for making GOP a minority party

See, this is what the subject is about. The 2004 election and the swift boat ads. Yet when I mention the unrelenting vehement attacks, even after super majority victory, I get off topic claims of a man stealing water in Texas and deserving it. Yet water claims in Texas wasn't the subject or reason for the attacks.

All I get in response is a full line up of Democrats entirely supportive of the assault.

To which I find my response entirely valid of beware what you wish for. You may escalate the conflict beyond words considering super majority status isn?t enough to sate this conflict and endow you with civility.

We're careful. I'll hold the same position for anyone who donates large sums to spread despicable lies about a candidate to get his terrible opponent elected.

Let me know when that happens on the other side.

You might raise the commercial aired one time in the 1964 campaign of a girl picking flowers while a nuclear bomb went off about Goldwater being too pro-war.

But ad was hardly the specific sort of lie that matches, and it did not have any specific big donor paying to spread it to spread a lie, besides the point it was pulled after one showing.

The left has some donors who have donated to spread the truth about Republicans - but not enough.

 

[Lemon law]

Franken has only been seated as a Senator for a few weeks and already people with a clear political bias are lining up to call him worthless.

Maybe we should let Franken establish a clear Senate voting pattern before going off 1/4 cocked.

In MHO, Norm Coleman proved he was an idiot, and like it or not, the people of Minnesota gave Coleman the old heave ho. And in 2014, Franken will gain have to go before the people of Minnesota if he wants to be re-elected senator.

And I realize that I, as a single voter can't simply object to sitting Senator and have them poof go away and resign.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Gee, once again Harvey derails a topic with his Bush macros. Can we get a moderator to clean this thread up like they do in other threads where people go blatently off-topic and disrupt the OP's topic?

Aww... Pity you didn't bother to read the thread and follow the dialog. It may be beyond your intellectual capacity, but go all the way back to the second post in the thread with alchemize's casual attempt to dismiss "partisans stuck in the past." I replied citing the crimes committed by Hitler and the nazis, as well as the Bushwhackos, as examples of why we cannot dismiss or forget the lessons of history and quoted George Santayana's admonition in "Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1"

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

I didn't post a long string of documentation (aka "macro") until JohnnyGage attempted to rewrite history in challenging the validity of the comparison between the crimes committed by Hitler and the nazis and those commited by the Bushwhackos.

He asked if I had "relatives hauled off to special camps." It probabaly shocked the shit out of him to learn that I'm 67, from a Jewish family from Hungary on my mom's side and from Lithuania on my dad's, and I grew up with adults who had numbers tattooed on their arms.
I don't know a lot about members of my family who didn't escape eastern Europe during the 20's - 30's. I DO know that, like the rest of that Jewish population, their chances of survival were not very good.

He asked (presumably under Bush) if there were firing squads and secret police units coming to my house in the middle of the night and rough up you and loved ones. I pointed out that, this time, the camps were Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and various "dark" sites run by the CIA and other sites run by foreign governments helping them do their dirty work and that, this time, they used waterboarding and other means of torture, and yes, some of their captives died. I restated that the Bushwhackos are guilty of the murder of every American troop who has died in their war of LIES in Iraq, and I cited specific facts and specific statutes to support that statement.

Cliffs:

I posted and cited examples in direct response to posts by others who, like you, would rather deny, dismiss and forget the horrific crimes committed by your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal gang. If you have a problem with that, it's your problem.

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I wonder if I would be allowed to post a 3 page Obama macro in every thread where Obama isn't even the topic.

1. My replies were on topic and directly responsive to other posts.

2. I doubt that you're intellectually capable of writing any such "Obama macro," including names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise.

If you can, go for it, and we can discuss the points you raise. :light:

If you can't, you're full of shit... as usual... TROLL! :|

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Gee, once again Harvey derails a topic with his Bush macros. Can we get a moderator to clean this thread up like they do in other threads where people go blatently off-topic and disrupt the OP's topic?

Aww... Pity you didn't bother to read the thread and follow the dialog. It may be beyond your intellectual capacity, but go all the way back to the second post in the thread with alchemize's casual attempt to dismiss "partisans stuck in the past." I replied citing the crimes committed by Hitler and the nazis, as well as the Bushwhackos, as examples of why we cannot dismiss or forget the lessons of history and quoted George Santayana's admonition in "Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1"

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

I didn't post a long string of documentation (aka "macro") until JohnnyGage attempted to rewrite history in challenging the validity of the comparison between the crimes committed by Hitler and the nazis and those commited by the Bushwhackos.

He asked if I had "relatives hauled off to special camps." It probabaly shocked the shit out of him to learn that I'm 67, from a Jewish family from Hungary on my mom's side and from Lithuania on my dad's, and I grew up with adults who had numbers tattooed on their arms.
I don't know a lot about members of my family who didn't escape eastern Europe during the 20's - 30's. I DO know that, like the rest of that Jewish population, their chances of survival were not very good.

He asked (presumably under Bush) if there were firing squads and secret police units coming to my house in the middle of the night and rough up you and loved ones. I pointed out that, this time, the camps were Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and various "dark" sites run by the CIA and other sites run by foreign governments helping them do their dirty work and that, this time, they used waterboarding and other means of torture, and yes, some of their captives died. I restated that the Bushwhackos are guilty of the murder of every American troop who has died in their war of LIES in Iraq, and I cited specific facts and specific statutes to support that statement.

Cliffs:

I posted and cited examples in direct response to posts by others who, like you, would rather deny, dismiss and forget the horrific crimes committed by your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal gang. If you have a problem with that, it's your problem.

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I wonder if I would be allowed to post a 3 page Obama macro in every thread where Obama isn't even the topic.

1. My replies were on topic and directly responsive to other posts.

2. I doubt that you're intellectually capable of writing any such "Obama macro," including names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise.

If you can, go for it, and we can discuss the points you raise. :light:

If you can't, you're full of shit... as usual... TROLL! :|

Go ahead and try to justify your derailment any way you want, it still doesn't make it anything other than what it was. Besides, how does it make you feel that not ONE person in this country is willing to prosecute Bush for the crimes you say he committed? And Obama is CONTINUING many of the supposid crimes you say Bush has committed but yet you do not see him for the MURDERER and TRAITOR that he is... The fact that you don't tells me that you are nothing but a hypocrite and a partisan hack who puts politics before the interests of this country. Anyone who would do that, is nothing but a sub-human POS! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Hurray for partisans stuck in the past!

That's a pretty hilarious line of defense for a guy who used a Vietnam War veteran's service against him.

 

[txrandom]

I just wish Pickens would have stayed at Texas A&M. Our campus would be so much nicer.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Besides, how does it make you feel that not ONE person in this country is willing to prosecute Bush for the crimes you say he committed?

And Obama is CONTINUING many of the supposid crimes you say Bush has committed but yet you do not see him for the MURDERER and TRAITOR that he is...

The fact that you don't tells me that you are nothing but a hypocrite and a partisan hack who puts politics before the interests of this country.

Anyone who would do that, is nothing but a sub-human POS! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

That's all you Republcians can do now is call us real Americans "sub-human POS".

Wow just wow.

I have called many times over for Bush, his buddies as well as their supporters including you to be sent to the Hague and publicly hung like they did to Saddam.

So you're full of shit that no one has called for prosecution of Bush.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Go ahead and try to justify your derailment any way you want, it still doesn't make it anything other than what it was.

Exactly, and regardless of your lame attempt to paint it any other way, I posted direct quotes proving that "what it was" was directly responsive to posts by others. The only derailment is your personal attacks on me.

Besides, how does it make you feel that not ONE person in this country is willing to prosecute Bush for the crimes you say he committed?

You forgot the key word... YET, because, unfortunately, it will take time to assemble all of the elements required to prosecute the Bushwhackos for their crimes. Even Faux News says you're full of shit:

Pelosi Open to Prosecution of Bush Administration Officials

The House speaker suggests to "FOX News Sunday" that the law might compel Democrats to press forth on some prosecutions of Bush administration officials, saying they may not "have a right to ignore" them.

By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Sunday, January 18, 2009

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is receptive to the idea of prosecuting some Bush administration officials, while letting others who are accused of misdeeds leave office without prosecution, she told Chris Wallace in an interview on "FOX News Sunday."

"I think you look at each item and see what is a violation of the law and do we even have a right to ignore it," the California Democrat said. "And other things that are maybe time that is spent better looking to the future rather than to the past."

Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, announced Friday he wants to set up a commission to look into whether the Bush administration broke the law by taking the nation to war against Iraq and instituting aggressive anti-terror initiatives. The Michigan Democrat called for an "independent criminal probe into whether any laws were broken in connection with these activities."

President-elect Barack Obama has not closed off the possibility of prosecutions, but hinted he does not favor them.

"I don't believe that anybody is above the law," he told ABC News a week ago. "On the other hand, I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards."

Pelosi, during the interview in her ceremonial office, said there is merit in both arguments.

"I don't think that Mr. Obama and Mr. Conyers are that far apart," she said. "There are different subjects and you treat them differently."

She hinted that the law might compel Democrats to press forth on some prosecutions, even if they are politically unpopular, adding: "That's not up to us to say that doesn't matter anymore."

"We cannot let the politicizing of, for example, the Justice Department to go unreviewed," she added. "I want to see the truth come forth."

How does it make you feel to know that you're full of shit? But you already knew that. :laugh:

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

And Obama is CONTINUING many of the supposid crimes you say Bush has committed...

There's nothing "supposed" about it, and I'm not the only one saying it. If you weren't reading and mouse challenged, you'd know that by simply reading any of my "macros" and following the links to the corroborating evidence.

... but yet you do not see him for the MURDERER and TRAITOR that he is...

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise. :light:

If you can't, you're full of shit... as usual... TROLL! :|

The fact that you don't tells me that you are nothing but a hypocrite and a partisan hack who puts politics before the interests of this country. Anyone who would do that, is nothing but a sub-human POS! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

The fact that you CAN'T tells me that all you can do is spew FUD and project your own intellectual shortcomings on others. :roll:

 

[Genx87]

2009 to Franken, 2009 to franken. It isnt 2004 anymore douchebag and that failure called Air America isnt your employer.

 

[seemingly random]

Good. It's about time pickens and his ilk are held accountable.

I heard he's losing money in his attempt to corner the water market in texas. Not many tears for him.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Genx87

2009 to Franken, 2009 to franken. It isnt 2004 anymore douchebag and that failure called Air America isnt your employer.

2009 to Genx87. 2009 to Genx87. The citizens of Minnesota and the United States of America are his employer, and that douche bag, Pickens, who financed the lying fucktard swiftboaters is still a turd and deserves what he got and more.

Props to Franken for speaking truth to the power of wealthy turds. :thumbsup:

 

[Fear No Evil]

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

When did you stop beating your wife?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

When did you stop beating your wife?

So you saw what I did there? Its unlikely Harvey will be as shrewd as you..

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

In other words: BAWWWWW?

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

What has the Obama administration done that's anywhere near what Bush's did? Spell it out for us. Tell us exactly what is so corrupt and traitorous about Obama. I know you're just going call names, because you don't have a leg to stand on, but it's your chance not to look like the brainwashed, moronic sheep you are.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

When did you stop beating your wife?

So you saw what I did there? Its unlikely Harvey will be as shrewd as you..

Gosh, you make me blush.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JKing106

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

What has the Obama administration done that's anywhere near what Bush's did? Spell it out for us. Tell us exactly what is so corrupt and traitorous about Obama. I know you're just going call names, because you don't have a leg to stand on, but it's your chance not to look like the brainwashed, moronic sheep you are.

He hasn't closed Gitmo yet, and even if he does, he has said he plans to continue to hold some people indefinitely without trial. He has also continued most of Bush's policies in Iraq and Afghanistan which continue to kill innocent people. He has used his executive power to cover up photos of Americans abusing prisoners. And he does all this while taking Bush's spending and tripling it. I guess it costs a lot more than he originally thought to be a murderer and a traitor.

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JKing106

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

What has the Obama administration done that's anywhere near what Bush's did? Spell it out for us. Tell us exactly what is so corrupt and traitorous about Obama. I know you're just going call names, because you don't have a leg to stand on, but it's your chance not to look like the brainwashed, moronic sheep you are.

So, when are we executing Bush and Co., since you agree with sane people he's a murderer and a traitor?

He hasn't closed Gitmo yet, and even if he does, he has said he plans to continue to hold some people indefinitely without trial. He has also continued most of Bush's policies in Iraq and Afghanistan which continue to kill innocent people. He has used his executive power to cover up photos of Americans abusing prisoners. And he does all this while taking Bush's spending and tripling it. I guess it costs a lot more than he originally thought to be a murderer and a traitor.

So, when are we executing Bush and Co., since you agree with sane people he's a murderer and a traitor?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush.. I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

When did you stop beating your wife?

So you saw what I did there? Its unlikely Harvey will be as shrewd as you..

I think Harvey already poijnted out you are a (low-quality) troll. What you don't seem to get is that after pointing out your errors 50 times, it's a bit pointless to do it the 51st.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Repeating my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

Since your links prove absolutely NOTHING and not one person in a position to do anything about it in this country has done ANYTHING to persue Bush..

I can only conclude your 'proof' is a bunch of partisan inspired bullshit and lies, or Obama and his Administration are even more corrupt and traitorous than the Bush Administation. Which one is it? Is your proof bullshit or is Obama a traitor?

Says you, but as usual, you're just lying and denying without disproving any of the charges against your thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal gang. My links go to facts, which I didn't create, statutes, which I didn't write, and quotes on the record, on the air, by Bushwhackos spewing their lies... You know... just as YOU are lying, now... just as YOU lie every time you post.

And you still don't have a shred of evidence to support your claims that Obama has committed the crimes of murder and treason so I'll again repeat my previous request -- Go ahead and post a specific list of facts that support charging Obama with murder and treason. You're talking serious felonies so be sure to include names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise. If you can, we can discuss the points you raise.

If you can't, you're still full of shit... as usual... JACKASS TROLL! :|

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Traitors and murderers should be tried and sentenced. These are heinous crimes...why isn't the current administration seeking justice?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Franken = headcase.

Says the birther ...