france has been no friend to muslims

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Because he's expecting the refugees to work to create a society, not go on social benefits. If they were willing to work hard for a society, they wouldn't have abandoned their own.

Shame on them. Stay home!!!!

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You would have stayed, right?
 

TheSlamma

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If you guys really want a dose of Muslim hate you should read Japans stance on them
 

brycejones

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Shame on them. Stay home!!!!

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You would have stayed, right?

Look at that! A bunch of liburls waiting for the government to clean up the mess. They trash their own homes and now want to go jack up another country. If they had only done what the dictatorship had told them to do they would still be living in paradise.

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tbh I think it debunks the idea that Sweden truly has the second highest rate of rape in the world; there are obviously going to be many African countries that have it worse, but just don't have it reported. In terms of an increase of rape in Sweden in general, that seems very far-fetched per the explanation given...

But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.

For one, "rape awareness" is something that I believe has been going on for quite a while. For example, marital rape was pretty much legal in the United States until starting in the 70s. In spite of that, rape has dropped fairly consistently since the 70s, even though broadening the definition of rape should have had the opposite effect on those numbers. Additionally, I'm pretty sure that immigrants in Sweden are vastly over-represented when it comes to rape. So yeah, Sweden is more open about it than India where rape is unfortunately a part of life for many people, but immigrants from pro-rape/anti-woman cultures are still the primary culprit of Sweden's rape problem.

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Findings from a previous study published by the Swedish government in 1996 determined that between 1985 and 1989 individuals born in Iraq, North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia), and Africa (excluding Uganda and the North African countries) were convicted of rape at rates 20, 23, and 17 greater than individuals born in Sweden respectively.[12]

This is the source for that claim; unfortunately I don't know Swedish but there it is.
 
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master_shake_

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wtf is that link debunking?? did you even read it?

Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, author Naomi Wolf said on the BBC's Newsnight programme recently. She was commenting on the case of Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder who is fighting extradition from the UK to Sweden over rape and sexual assault allegations that he denies.

Is it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, in 2010. The second-highest in the world.


This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same year in Sweden's next-door neighbour, Norway, and twice the rate in the United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in India, which recorded about two offences per 100,000 people.


On the face of it, it would seem Sweden is a much more dangerous place than these other countries.


But that is a misconception, according to Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm. She says you cannot compare countries' records, because police procedures and legal definitions vary widely.
it's false because different things are different.

she said so.
 
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So with your great understanding of the matter, explain why Sweden is the only country undergoing this sudden rape-awareness boom.

The main reason, which was apparently not in the article I linked (and I can't find the one I thought I was linking), it because Sweden vastly expanded the legal definitions of what constitutes rape.

As Wiki explains:

The Swedish Crime Survey (SCS) is a recurrent survey by Brå of the attitudes and experiences of the general population regarding victimization, fear of crime and public confidence in the justice system, with an annual sample size of around 15,000 respondents.[47]

The rate of exposure to sexual offences has remained relatively unchanged, according to the SCS, since the first survey was conducted in 2006, despite an increase in the number of reported sex crimes.[48] This discrepancy can largely be explained by reforms in sex crime legislation, widening of the definition of rape,[49] and an effort by the Government to decrease the number of unreported cases.[42]

In SCS 2013, 0.8 per cent of respondents state that they were the victims of sexual offences, including rape; or an estimated 62,000 people of the general population (aged 16–79). Of these, 16 per cent described the sexual offence as "rape"—which would mean approximately 36,000 incidents of rape in 2012. It should be noted that it may be difficult for a layperson to determine whether an incident should be assessed as rape or sexual coercion, which is a similar but lesser offence in the Swedish Penal Code, meaning this number may be exaggerated. On the other hand, relationship rape may also be under-represented, because of how sensitive the issue is. Most of the sexual offences are committed in a public place (50%), and the perpetrator(s) are most often unknown to the victim (63%).[48]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#The_Swedish_Crime_Survey

What is *not* the cause, as the propagandists would have it, is a horde of rapacious Muslims raping the white wimmins.
 

blastingcap

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How many times does this shit have to be debunked?

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

Does not debunk. You take issue with the absolute numbers. That's not the point, the relative numbers are the point. Muslims went, crime rates went up, and when the rate of Muslim men raping Swedish women is more than 20x higher that of others, that says something.

You apparently didn't want to quote it, so I will:

"The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.So something's going on.
But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.
The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010.
"There might also be some increase in actual crime because of societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this period.
"But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before."


The entire BBC explanation relies on "Klara Selin" and her opinion that the rape stats have increased mostly due to better reporting. However, if you think about it, you can't know exactly how much underreporting was done because, well, it wasn't reported.


Moreoever, Klara Selin admitted that there could be other factors as well, but it being Sweden, she would not blame it on any non-P.C. causes. That does not prove or disprove anything, only that she wasn't willing to pin it on Muslim immigration.

Sweden's immigration rate is almost off the chart (see the article linked to below for how ridiculous their immigration rate is). Given a few more decades of this and what is "Swedish" today won't be very Swedish at all. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...in-the-world-was-overwhelmed-by-migrants.html

Apparently even idiotic Swedish government isn't quite idiotic enough to keep the doors open for much longer, though: http://news.yahoo.com/sweden-tighte...trols-asylum-numbers-142938511--business.html

But it's too late, they will keep coming even if it takes falsified papers or whatever. It's only a matter of time before they reduce the subsidies for their welfare state, which keeps drawing Third World throngs.
 
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