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Red Dawn

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Ok, so what exactly do you want done to Fox News and Hannity because of this? Should they be fined? Taken off the air? (Oh wait, they're on cable).. Perhaps prison time?

Lets assume for the sake of argument you are right.. Fox News LIED about this.. they did it purposely.. What should happen?
They should be exposed and ridiculed.
 

boomerang

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Pretty amazing discourse here on some levels. Nobody disputes that a rally was held. Nobody has anything to say about the nature of that rally. The reasons for it, who attended, what was said, what if anything was accomplished - nothing said. No discussion of who organized it, how much time and effort it took, it's intended purpose etc.

But what is of the utmost importance is that the only network that even covered it, made an error in it's reporting on a commentary show. I've seen no reports of errors on the news portion of their broadcasting, only on their evening commentary broadcasting. The state run media did not cover the event and that is all well and good. No problem there.

What's most disturbing is the fervor and the outrage in this thread. It's blatantly obvious that the outrage is not directed towards the mistake, the outrage is because one lone television broadcaster dares to not be in lockstep with the rest.

Before this is all over, you may get your wish. The media in its entirety may very well be reporting only what the government wants you to hear. But please, go crack a history book first. Not the ones you read in school, find an older one. One that has not been sanitized and censored. But be ready, because it will present a view of history you at first will not believe. Try to have an open mind. Do some research and if you still want the media reporting only what the government wants you to hear, stay right where you are and nirvana will soon be yours.

Pay no attention to your neighbors that are packing up and leaving in the dead of night. Leaving while they are still able to do so.

Edit: Oh, and read the first link in my sig. It would be a great first step. But only if you can keep an open mind.
 
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CallMeJoe

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...The state run media did not cover the event and that is all well and good. No problem there...
"State Run Media". Is that the new Rushism for the major networks?

FWIW, I saw coverage of the rally on CNN and NBC, so you may want to contact Fox News for an update on your talking point.
 

shadow9d9

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Pretty amazing discourse here on some levels. Nobody disputes that a rally was held. Nobody has anything to say about the nature of that rally. The reasons for it, who attended, what was said, what if anything was accomplished - nothing said. No discussion of who organized it, how much time and effort it took, it's intended purpose etc.

But what is of the utmost importance is that the only network that even covered it, made an error in it's reporting on a commentary show. I've seen no reports of errors on the news portion of their broadcasting, only on their evening commentary broadcasting. The state run media did not cover the event and that is all well and good. No problem there.

What's most disturbing is the fervor and the outrage in this thread. It's blatantly obvious that the outrage is not directed towards the mistake, the outrage is because one lone television broadcaster dares to not be in lockstep with the rest.

Before this is all over, you may get your wish. The media in its entirety may very well be reporting only what the government wants you to hear. But please, go crack a history book first. Not the ones you read in school, find an older one. One that has not been sanitized and censored. But be ready, because it will present a view of history you at first will not believe. Try to have an open mind. Do some research and if you still want the media reporting only what the government wants you to hear, stay right where you are and nirvana will soon be yours.

Pay no attention to your neighbors that are packing up and leaving in the dead of night. Leaving while they are still able to do so.

Edit: Oh, and read the first link in my sig. It would be a great first step. But only if you can keep an open mind.

Umm, the outrage is that they purposely used a rally from 2 months ago that was 8x the size to show that a ton of people came out on "a thursday" when that wasn't even close to the case.
 

shadow9d9

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Yet Obama has taken Afghanistan and managed to make it even WORSE than the Neocons did... MORE soldiers died in 2009 under Obama's command in Afghanistan than ANY previous year. By FAR. By the end of 2009 its likely almost twice as many soldiers will have died than any year of Bush's administration.

If the current troop death rates in Afghanistan continue, Obama will surpass the number of troops who died in 8 years of the Bush Administration in just 3 years. So YES, I DO care. I also DO care that he refuses to act on the recommendation of his HAND PICKED commander in Afghanistan for more troops. While he wastes time attacking Fox News, our troops are DYING.. and DYING in record numbers.

But yes, lets worry about Fox News.. :rolleyes:

So make your own thread about it.

Don't try to change the subject here because you support outright lieing.
 

fskimospy

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Pretty amazing discourse here on some levels. Nobody disputes that a rally was held. Nobody has anything to say about the nature of that rally. The reasons for it, who attended, what was said, what if anything was accomplished - nothing said. No discussion of who organized it, how much time and effort it took, it's intended purpose etc.

But what is of the utmost importance is that the only network that even covered it, made an error in it's reporting on a commentary show. I've seen no reports of errors on the news portion of their broadcasting, only on their evening commentary broadcasting. The state run media did not cover the event and that is all well and good. No problem there.

What's most disturbing is the fervor and the outrage in this thread. It's blatantly obvious that the outrage is not directed towards the mistake, the outrage is because one lone television broadcaster dares to not be in lockstep with the rest.

Before this is all over, you may get your wish. The media in its entirety may very well be reporting only what the government wants you to hear. But please, go crack a history book first. Not the ones you read in school, find an older one. One that has not been sanitized and censored. But be ready, because it will present a view of history you at first will not believe. Try to have an open mind. Do some research and if you still want the media reporting only what the government wants you to hear, stay right where you are and nirvana will soon be yours.

Pay no attention to your neighbors that are packing up and leaving in the dead of night. Leaving while they are still able to do so.

Edit: Oh, and read the first link in my sig. It would be a great first step. But only if you can keep an open mind.

Wow, you live in a fantasy land. Your post here reminds me of the 9/11 truther guy in that other thread talking about how everyone else has their heads buried in the sand.

You think that older textbooks are better than the ones today? Are you nuts? Have you READ an old textbook? Textbooks in the past were WAAAAY more sanitized than the ones we read today.

It really speaks to your level of delusion that you think people are calling out Sean Hannity because he 'refuses to march in lockstep' instead of the fact that he lied on air. Also, what the hell are you talking about 'lone broadcaster'? The most watched news network in America not only covers these sort of events but promotes them, and Sean Hannity is alone only if you discount Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Medved, Michael Savage, Lou Dobbs, Michelle Malkin, and god knows how many others.

If what you wrote isn't a joke, seek help or actually crack open a book as you have recommended to others. Once you learn a few things about how media works in reality you'll understand how your 'state run media' label is laughably false.
 

halik

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As much as I dislike Huffington Post, lies on Hannity is nothing new.

Couple years ago I was listening to Hannity on the radio bitching about how democrats use some political maneuver to block Bush's appointments or something of that sort and how this has never happened before and it's absolutely despicable blah blah. Of course it was completely wrong, republicans blocked several of Clinton's appointments in the same manner.
 
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Just pointing out lies.

Truth in media is a beautiful thing, you should try a station that practices it.
Like CBS? But that's not really a fair comparision now is it...one being a political talking head and the other a major news anchor waving around falsified National Guard documents.

Or maybe CNN...that SNL Obama skit fact check news coverage is exceptional.

I listened to NPR for a little bit the other day...an interview with a Muslim military chaplain who personally knew Hasan and basically gave him a good character reference, an interview with of a woman about a healthcare problem (an anecdotal story used to support current healthcare legislation), and a puff piece on Kerry. That's where I go to get my truth in news! ;)
 
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spidey07

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The left sure is scared of Fox News. Especially since it's the number one watched news network. We're taking the country back and it scares the crap out of their warped little minds.
 

shira

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so let me get this straight, they were talking about an event and used stock footage of a similar event while talking about it. wow, I can't believe any TV network would ever do that. shocking. this demands a congressional investigation immediately.

Except Fox didn't display the words "Stock footage" (as any responsible broadcaster would do) or provide ANY clarification that when the footage changed from the actual rally (at the very beginning of the clip) to the September 12 rally (the vast majority of the clip) what was being shown was a different rally from two months earlier.

The political landscape on health care reform has changed RADICALLY between September and now, yet Fox news is trying to fool viewers into thinking that the opposition is just as strong.
 

shira

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So wouldn't the proper way of dealing with this be other news agencies could report it and show the proper pictures and let people decide? What exactly do you want? The government to shut down Fox News over a wrong video? Hannity thrown in prison?
No, the proper way of dealing with this is for other news agencies to report Fox News' deception in this matter, and then have reporters ask Hannity why Fox didn't make clear that the footage of the large rally was not the rally being talked about on the air.
 

shira

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Ok, so what exactly do you want done to Fox News and Hannity because of this? Should they be fined? Taken off the air? (Oh wait, they're on cable).. Perhaps prison time?

Lets assume for the sake of argument you are right.. Fox News LIED about this.. they did it purposely.. What should happen?

The incident should be widely reported by the other news stations, and Fox should be asked to explain the broadcast.
 

soundforbjt

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The left sure is scared of Fox News. Especially since it's the number one watched news network. We're taking the country back and it scares the crap out of their warped little minds.

Yes, I am scared... and you are the perfect example of why I'm scared of Faux News...because you believe it and defend it.
 

spidey07

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Yes, I am scared... and you are the perfect example of why I'm scared of Faux News...because you believe it and defend it.

You should be scared of liberty and freedom. Because it will win over the tyranny of this administration. People are waking up.
 

fskimospy

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You should be scared of liberty and freedom. Because it will win over the tyranny of this administration. People are waking up.

As John Stewart so perfectly put it, your problem is that you mistake tyranny with losing.
 

HomerJS

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The left sure is scared of Fox News. Especially since it's the number one watched news network. We're taking the country back and it scares the crap out of their warped little minds.

Just curious, who, what or whom took the country and exactly when was it taken??
 

HomerJS

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I've seen the question what should happen to Fox News?

This is not an isolated incident but a pattern at FNC. Things like changing Rs to Ds in the caption during a scandal, calling Obama a defacto terrorist.

The FCC should step in and force the Fox News Channel to change its name to the Fox Entertainment Channel. Then they can continue to lie (oops make mistakes detrimental to Dems).
 
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I've seen the question what should happen to Fox News?

This is not an isolated incident but a pattern at FNC. Things like changing Rs to Ds in the caption during a scandal, calling Obama a defacto terrorist.

The FCC should step in and force the Fox News Channel to change its name to the Fox Entertainment Channel. Then they can continue to lie (oops make mistakes detrimental to Dems).
And what should happen to MSNBC?
 
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And what should happen to MSNBC?

Well, seeing as how MSNBC is an amalgam of "Microsoft" and "National Broadcasting Company," and does not have the word "News" anywhere in it, my guess would be nothing? I'm not in favor of forcing Fox News to change their name, mind you, but your rebuttal was simply stupid.

-EDIT- Oops, company, not corporation. Point still stands.