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Fox News sued for spreading misinformation to the public

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pcgeek11 said:
I'm laughing at this response.

So are you saying that the other news outlets Never Broadcast known false information?

Have you been under a rock for the last 10 years?

Those links back up the fact that they are all dishonest to various degrees as I stated.
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Yes I am saying that because if they did they would be out of business real quick. When they make mistakes, they issue retractions. If they printed false information on purpose and got caught, nobody would ever trust them again. We aren't talking about conservatives here who love being lied to. We are talking about everyone else seeking for quality, accurate information. There is no real market for misinformation on the left or for independents. That's why Fox News dominates cable news ratings.
 
dank69 said:
Yes I am saying that because if they did they would be out of business real quick. When they make mistakes, they issue retractions. If they printed false information on purpose and got caught, nobody would ever trust them again. We aren't talking about conservatives here who love being lied to. We are talking about everyone else seeking for quality, accurate information. There is no real market for misinformation on the left or for independents. That's why Fox News dominates cable news ratings.
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Other news outlets Never Broadcast known false information.

OK then I'm glad you believe that. 😉


😛
 
Printed Circuit Bro said:
You presented evidence?

I thought someone was going to post some links to peer-reviewed studies showing no conservative or liberal bias in the media.

I'm still waiting to read that. Did you post them and I missed them? If you did and I missed them, sorry! Where are they?
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I posted them and they are in this thread.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Other news outlets Never Broadcast known false information.

OK then I'm glad you believe that. 😉


😛
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Still waiting for you to provide one example. If it is so prevalent that it is crazy to even dispute that it happens, then it shouldn't be hard for you to find at least one example.
 
Printed Circuit Bro said:
fskimospy said:
Are you actually trying to argue that mainstream media and conservative media like Fox News are the same or substantially similar? I hope not, as that is comical nonsense.
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This is one of those "So you're saying" fallacies. What I typed is exactly what I mean. If Fox is subjected to some kind of disclaimer than everyone else in the mainstream media should also be subjected to the same disclaimer.

This is not rocket surgery.
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How the feck can it be a fallacy if you go on to agree with the substance half a sentence later? Nothing of meaning can be deduced from that!
Its your negatives again man... I dont think you can do them.
Its no fault of others, the gibberish you post.
 
Considering the majority of what comes out of Trumps mouth is partisan bullshit, lies, innuendo and culture war nonsense. Then taking into account that Trump spends most of his presidential time, morning to night watching Fox to get his talking points and marching orders, such as - partisan bullshit, lies, innuendo and culture war nonsense from the multitude of useless corporate, fawning talking heads. Meh...zero fucks given to what happens to his Pravda like mouthpiece.
 
cytg111 said:
How the feck can it be a fallacy if you go on to agree with the substance half a sentence later? Nothing of meaning can be deduced from that!
Its your negatives again man... I dont think you can do them.
Its no fault of others, the gibberish you post.
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The part of the statement I referred to as a fallacy wasn't what you think it was. Hope this helps.
 
fskimospy said:
I've written otherwise in this thread, did you not read it?

The difference is that the TV channel Fox News makes programming decisions for the express purpose of pushing conservative viewpoints while other organizations (including the actual news component of Fox News for the most part!) does not.
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Who does Jim Acousta work for? I'm genuinely curious.
 
fskimospy said:
I've written otherwise in this thread, did you not read it?

The difference is that the TV channel Fox News makes programming decisions for the express purpose of pushing conservative viewpoints while other organizations (including the actual news component of Fox News for the most part!) does not.
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I asked, not because I'm some "Trump supporter" or some "righty" but his silly, stupid, "what if" Monday morning quarterbacking questions about Covid-19 are nauseating and unhelpful...

And he works for CNN. No surprise there.
 
HomerJS said:
Has Jim Acosta ever promoted a known false narrative/story that could cause public harm? I'm genuinely curious
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I feel you. I'm just making a point. Media hardly cares about facts. Acsota's narrative is about retroactively assigning blame to the President (and he was subsequently shut down by both Fauci and Birx).

He frankly didn't care that the only way you can prove early inaction caused this is to get the data from the ground about how pervasive it was before it was detected.

So to me, he's pushing a false narrative that the White House is the blame. No one is the blame.

Now how they handle it form then onward, that's more interesting and more fact based.
 
Retro Rob said:
I feel you. I'm just making a point. Media hardly cares about facts. Acsota's narrative is about retroactively assigning blame to the President (and he was subsequently shut down by both Fauci and Birx).

He frankly didn't care that the only way you can prove early inaction caused this is to get the data from the ground about how pervasive it was before it was detected.

So to me, he's pushing a false narrative that the White House is the blame. No one is the blame.

Now how they handle it form then onward, that's more interesting and more fact based.
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Are you seriously attempting to argue that Trump’s months of inaction in the face of dire warnings had no effect on our current situation? Seriously?

Retroactive blame my ass. Current and ongoing blame from day one to today. It’s crazy that people are already trying to retcon away Trump’s incompetence.
 
Retro Rob said:
I feel you. I'm just making a point. Media hardly cares about facts. Acsota's narrative is about retroactively assigning blame to the President (and he was subsequently shut down by both Fauci and Birx).

He frankly didn't care that the only way you can prove early inaction caused this is to get the data from the ground about how pervasive it was before it was detected.

So to me, he's pushing a false narrative that the White House is the blame. No one is the blame.

Now how they handle it form then onward, that's more interesting and more fact based.
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As someone who has been following this NOBODY has blamed Trump for the virus. In fact they have stated such. What they blame him for is the response once the United States became aware. We became aware Dec 31. After that the response is Trump's responsibility.

BTW - What is retroactive blame? Isn't that blaming for something occurring before becoming responsible? Obama was blamed by many for a horrible economy during his term, is one I can think of.
 
fskimospy said:
Are you seriously attempting to argue that Trump’s months of inaction in the face of dire warnings had no effect on our current situation? Seriously?

Retroactive blame my ass. Current and ongoing blame from day one to today. It’s crazy that people are already trying to retcon away Trump’s incompetence.
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Got no idea, actually. Just saying Fauci actually shot the suggestion down UNTIL he knows what the data on the ground said back in Jan/Feb.
 
HomerJS said:
As someone who has been following this NOBODY has blamed Trump for the virus. In fact they have stated such. What they blame him for is the response once the United States became aware. We became aware Dec 31. After that the response is Trump's responsibility.

BTW - What is retroactive blame? Isn't that blaming for something occurring before becoming responsible? Obama was blamed by many for a horrible economy during his term, is one I can think of.
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So on December 31, you would have been OK with a nationwide shutdown, stay at home mandates that day, no questions asked?
 
HomerJS said:
As someone who has been following this NOBODY has blamed Trump for the virus. In fact they have stated such. What they blame him for is the response once the United States became aware. We became aware Dec 31. After that the response is Trump's responsibility.

BTW - What is retroactive blame? Isn't that blaming for something occurring before becoming responsible? Obama was blamed by many for a horrible economy during his term, is one I can think of.
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And, can you please point me to any posts you made December 31, warning members here that the coronavirus was dangerous, contagious, and that we needed to shut down the country and limit travel?

If you have any posts of that nature, I will gladly agree with you. But until then, you look like the average MMQB and facebook Public Health Official.
 
fskimospy said:
Are you seriously attempting to argue that Trump’s months of inaction in the face of dire warnings had no effect on our current situation? Seriously?

Retroactive blame my ass. Current and ongoing blame from day one to today. It’s crazy that people are already trying to retcon away Trump’s incompetence.
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Oh, and I wanted to add. I'm not tying to make this about Trump. Testing and infection patterns indicate massive community spread before it was detected.

And since they are not doing autopsies on dead bodies looking for Covid-19 specifically, we could have possibly had it here since even November and didn't know it was the cause of death.

You cannot find what you aren't looking for.
 
Retro Rob said:
So on December 31, you would have been OK with a nationwide shutdown, stay at home mandates that day, no questions asked?
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I would have rather had trump call it a democrat hoax instead..

So all this would have been behind us.

Jesus f@!ing christ..


I would have wanted him to start to preparing and letting people know this could be bad.. Instead he just sat on his hands and did not do shit.

FYI.. He did call it hoax a couple of months later..

His lack of actions is making it worse.
 
Retro Rob said:
So on December 31, you would have been OK with a nationwide shutdown, stay at home mandates that day, no questions asked?
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Stop with the strawman.

Early Jan the federal government should have been deep in the planning stages. Trump didn't start taking this seriously until 2nd week in March when the stock market tanked. That got his attention. Example a total travel ban to/from China should have happened in Jan. We had enough information then to justify. In Jan we should have begun producing testing kits. South Korea in Jan planned to ramp up productions of tests.

By Feb 26 South Korea had tested over 46,000 people. The United States, 426. I consider that fact an abject failure.
 
outriding said:
I would have rather had trump call it a democrat hoax instead..

So all this would have been behind us.

Jesus f@!ing christ..


I would have wanted him to start to preparing and letting people know this could be bad.. Instead he just sat on his hands and did not do shit.

FYI.. He did call it hoax a couple of months later..

His lack of actions is making it worse.
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You can address the question. No one would have accepted the idea of a shutdown on New Year's Eve, because they would have said that the evidence doesn't warrant going after a fly with a bazooka.

Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.
 
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