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The point I want to make is that the hypocrisy is strong here. Banning travel from China was racist and xenophobic. But it should have been done sooner. You wouldn't have wanted strong containment measures (like lockingdown) but he didn't do enough.

Politics is awfully blinding....

You’re inventing hypocrisy out of thin air in order to excuse massive incompetence and dereliction of duty that will contribute to the deaths of thousands or tens of thousands.

He was told repeatedly and he did nothing. He did worse than nothing, he actively lied about it.
 
The point I want to make is that the hypocrisy is strong here. Banning travel from China was racist and xenophobic. But it should have been done sooner. You wouldn't have wanted strong containment measures (like lockingdown) but he didn't do enough.

Politics is awfully blinding....
The hypocrisy is yours. Anyone who saw this coming and said something was attacked by the President and his media machine for spreading a hoax. And now the President and his media machine are blaming anyone who said anything for not doing anything, even though that is obviously the President's job. And all you're doing here is carrying the President's water, apologizing for the incompetence of his leadership with straw men and lies. Sad!
 
You’re inventing hypocrisy out of thin air in order to excuse massive incompetence and dereliction of duty that will contribute to the deaths of thousands or tens of thousands.

He was told repeatedly and he did nothing. He did worse than nothing, he actively lied about it.
I believe the new White House Press Secretary was the one saying back in February that Dems were spreading the virus "hoax" because "they want millions of Americans to die."
This is the level of lying divisive doucebaggery that runs this country now. But it's everyone else's fault somehow...
 
Here is good example, assuming it's valid.


There were definitely some problems with people misunderstanding the importance of a China travel ban (in fact, people have criticized Trump in hindsight for not going far enough with it), but at the same time, it's demonstrably true that Trump messed up the response and didn't take it seriously enough. It's definitely worth reading David Frum's extensive catalog of what Trump did wrong, if you haven't already.
 
Here is good example, assuming it's valid.


The WHO stance on travel


WHO continues to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks.
 
There were definitely some problems with people misunderstanding the importance of a China travel ban (in fact, people have criticized Trump in hindsight for not going far enough with it), but at the same time, it's demonstrably true that Trump messed up the response and didn't take it seriously enough. It's definitely worth reading David Frum's extensive catalog of what Trump did wrong, if you haven't already.
That's a valid criticism. But on the other hand, if covid19 hadn't been as serious as it is, Trump would have been called a racist for imposing the travel ban from China.
It's pretty easy to be right when your looking back, not so simple when looking forward.
 
The point I want to make is that the hypocrisy is strong here. Banning travel from China was racist and xenophobic. But it should have been done sooner. You wouldn't have wanted strong containment measures (like lockingdown) but he didn't do enough.

Politics is awfully blinding....

So what? Trump tried to gaslight us all about a deadly global pandemic. He still is. The buck stops somewhere else. He takes responsibility for nothing.
 
That's a valid criticism. But on the other hand, if covid19 hadn't been as serious as it is, Trump would have been called a racist for imposing the travel ban from China.
It's pretty easy to be right when your looking back, not so simple when looking forward.
Sure, but long after he was repeatedly told how serious it was he still did nothing and continued actively lying to the public about it.

I agree that people need to be given a lot of latitude because it’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback but even under the most charitable terms Trump fucked up to an absolutely incredible extent. He was like GWB sitting there reading My Pet Goat during 9/11 but he did it for two and a half months.
 
The WHO stance on travel


WHO continues to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks.
Tens of thousands of people packed into planes for hours at a time from countries suffering from an epidemic isn't an issue at all. This is a logical and well reasoned response from the top experts in the field, we should listen to them. Close social contact is harmless.
 
Sure, but long after he was repeatedly told how serious it was he still did nothing and continued actively lying to the public about it.

I agree that people need to be given a lot of latitude because it’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback but even under the most charitable terms Trump fucked up to an absolutely incredible extent. He was like GWB sitting there reading My Pet Goat during 9/11 but he did it for two and a half months.
No doubt he screwed the pooch, though I understand his thinking. Personally, I assumed the thing would burn out very rapidly when it came up against first world medicine. Turns out I'm not infallible.
 
No doubt he screwed the pooch, though I understand his thinking. Personally, I assumed the thing would burn out very rapidly when it came up against first world medicine. Turns out I'm not infallible.

Funny that. China's public health system stands head & shoulders above our own. Don't need any of that ebil soshulism in Libertopia.
 
Sure, but long after he was repeatedly told how serious it was he still did nothing and continued actively lying to the public about it.

I agree that people need to be given a lot of latitude because it’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback but even under the most charitable terms Trump fucked up to an absolutely incredible extent. He was like GWB sitting there reading My Pet Goat during 9/11 but he did it for two and a half months.

Comparing a terrorists attack with a virus pandemic. Awesome!
 
Funny that. China's public health system stands head & shoulders above our own. Don't need any of that ebil soshulism in Libertopia.
Lol.
Maybe you should look at moving to the workers paradise? I'll stay here and help support the fascist shit hole we call the US, while you live in the refined splendor that is China.
 
You must believe in American exceptionalism.
The weirdest thing about the believers in American exceptionalism is that they keep trying to make America like every shithole in the world, with a tinpot dictator who does nothing but steal the public's money and tell lies but can't be held accountable, protectionist trade and immigration policies that harm the economy, all backed by racist/bigoted sentiment that foolishly believes that patriotism means hating and oppressing their own countrymen for being different than them.
Somehow, conservatives all believe that they're making America great by making it just like Iran.
 
Lol.
Maybe you should look at moving to the workers paradise? I'll stay here and help support the fascist shit hole we call the US, while you live in the refined splendor that is China.

At times, those sort of statements almost force you in a position of defend trump when you're merely trying to allow for human nature and human failures.
 
That's a valid criticism. But on the other hand, if covid19 hadn't been as serious as it is, Trump would have been called a racist for imposing the travel ban from China.
It's pretty easy to be right when your looking back, not so simple when looking forward.

Mind you, that's a pretty big "if" -- it was pretty clear it was serious to people paying attention. Of course, the number of people paying attention was also a problem...
 
Comparing a terrorists attack with a virus pandemic. Awesome!
I’m unclear why you think that’s a problem, can you elaborate? If anything the comparison is unfair to GWB as he had to react in the moment. Trump on the other hand had months to do something and instead did nothing - sorry, not nothing, he actively lied and misinformed the nation. It was worse than nothing.
 
Lol.
Maybe you should look at moving to the workers paradise? I'll stay here and help support the fascist shit hole we call the US, while you live in the refined splendor that is China.

Denial is so comfy, huh? Our system is woefully inadequate to the task at hand, something that will become increasingly obvious over the next months. It's not just that the Chinese are better at it but also places like Taiwan & S Korea. How dare those fucking soshulists show us up, huh?
 
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