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Fox news admitting it wants a WHITE ethno-state

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fskimospy said:
She is clearly saying that these demographic changes are bad, meaning that America would be better off if it was more white. It would be hard to find a more textbook definition of racism.
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I looked at the clip, and she said, "In some cases legal immigration". It seems primarily about low-skilled peoples coming over here. Everyone knows that immigrant groups don't necessarily meet the white benchmark on crime, education, etc generations down the line. Do you think Canada is being racist? They're taking in waaaay more of the cream of the crop as a proportion of their population than the US does.
 
Maxima1 said:
I looked at the clip, and she said, "In some cases legal immigration". It seems primarily about low-skilled peoples coming over here. Everyone knows that immigrant groups don't necessarily meet the white benchmark on crime, education, etc generations down the line. Do you think Canada is being racist? They're taking in waaaay more of the cream of the crop as a proportion of their population than the US does.
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As opposed to making up things for her to say let’s just go with what she actually said.
 
White blond lady on Fox News telling old white people what they already believe to keep them tuned in. Used to be this kind of sentiment had to be a little more subtle but it would seem subtlety is no longer required.

All these attempts to construct some kind of alternate reality where she is really saying something more nuanced are hilarious. The message is crystal clear.
 
They probably don't realize this, but America will be significantly poorer once they've eliminated the non-white, non-Christian, non-right-wing population. Hell, you can't even argue with such people that an action is in their best financial interests when they're set on an opposing action that serves their fantasies of their financial interest.
 
Maxima1 said:
I looked at the clip, and she said, "In some cases legal immigration". It seems primarily about low-skilled peoples coming over here. Everyone knows that immigrant groups don't necessarily meet the white benchmark on crime, education, etc generations down the line. Do you think Canada is being racist? They're taking in waaaay more of the cream of the crop as a proportion of their population than the US does.
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In that case you should add the rest of her statement ""In some cases legal immigration which of course progressives love."

Might be easier for purposes of this thread to limit it to legal immigration so things don't go completely off the rails. I'm guessing Laura wouldn't be a fan of my preference to raise immigration quotas to roughly match demand as a means of basically eliminating the illegal immigration problem.
 
Jhhnn said:
Laura Ingraham dog whistles racist fear & Glenn1 makes excuses for it. Because they're all misty eyed over the Whiteness of our past which apparently isn't racist at all.

WTF does Ingraham propose we do about this supposed great injustice that's been foisted off on White America? Well, other than use it as a point of divisive resentment?
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She is playing to her base. I'm sure these phony talking head pundits realize that immigration is a long-term investment. The first generation usually struggles financially or is somewhat poor; it's the second generation and onward that pays dividends.
 
fskimospy said:
I literally already quoted her, you big dummy.
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No. The huffingtonpost article is being disingenuous. They obviously omitted the "in some cases legal immigration" to make it seem like she opposes any colored peoples coming here. I doubt that's what she believes.

Edit: Never mind, I got it mixed up.It was the twitter link where that happened, but it's still largely displayed in the Huff article.

In that case you should add the rest of her statement ""In some cases legal immigration which of course progressives love."
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I read from that statement she thinks they'll be on public programs (obviously referring to the "in some cases" statement) and therefore vote for Democrats.
 
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Maxima1 said:
No. The huffingtonpost article is being disingenuous. They obviously omitted the "in some cases legal immigration" to make it seem like she opposes any colored peoples coming here. I doubt that's what she believes.

“They’re changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don’t like,” she said. “Now much of this is related to both illegal and, in some cases, legal immigration that, of course, progressives love.”

I read from that statement she thinks they'll be on public programs and therefore vote for Democrats.
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I don’t doubt that’s what she believes at all as she came right out and said that demographic changes in the US were bad. Unlike you, I base my evaluation of her opinions on what she actually said as opposed to things you made up in your head for her to believe.

I have no doubt that you will continue to argue that the things you invented for her to think are the right ones so I won’t be responding to you anymore.
 
fskimospy said:
She is clearly saying that these demographic changes are bad, meaning that America would be better off if it was more white. It would be hard to find a more textbook definition of racism.



Seems like the logical conclusion would be that about 60% of Americans think current levels of immigration are either good or not enough. 'Most of us don't like' would be simply factually false as it's clear from that poll result that most of us like it. I for one would be one of those that thinks we need to ramp immigration way up.
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Me too. Most of us are happy living in mixed company. Trump racists seem to mostly be people with little or no actual experience living amongst other races and peoples in a culturally dynamic setting. TV and the internet is where their opinions are formed.

Sad.
 
fskimospy said:
I don’t doubt that’s what she believes at all as she came right out and said that demographic changes in the US were bad. Unlike you, I base my evaluation of her opinions on what she actually said as opposed to things you made up in your head for her to believe.

I have no doubt that you will continue to argue that the things you invented for her to think are the right ones so I won’t be responding to you anymore.
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I didn't invent anything. Good grief. If she says, "In some cases", then it's quite obvious that she's likely okay with colored people coming here.

Edit: Why are you afraid of me, btw? You'll argue with some of the most staunch conservatives here without saying you'll ignore them constantly.
 
Moonbeam said:
A racist looks at racism as the logical and rational extension of a bigoted notion his or her race is superior, whereas others see a racist as somebody who thinks other races than his or her own are inferior and take offense to that.
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Racism is a form of irrational entitlement. The belief that one is somehow better than other people, not because of any merit of their own, but because of the merits of people the racist imagines that they're related to, but really aren't.
 
1sikbITCH said:
Me too. Most of us are happy living in mixed company. Trump racists seem to mostly be people with little or no actual experience living amongst other races and peoples in a culturally dynamic setting. TV and the internet is where their opinions are formed.

Sad.
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I always find it funny that the areas with the most immigrants have the best opinions of immigration even if you only survey the native born. It’s the places with few immigrants that really hate immigration despite the fact that it basically doesn’t affect them.

It’s just like how the people in rural Kansas are petrified by the specter of terrorism while the people in actual terrorist targets aren’t nearly so concerned. Someone should let them know that ISIS isn’t coming to blow up their local Food Lion.
 
glenn1 said:
On a side note, wanting immigration reform or changes isn't itself racist as you well know. Plus existing or desired rules can have a disparate impact as you also well know (e.g. having a provision for asylum means that seekers of asylum may overrepresent certain racial or ethnic groups because that's where the war is that's creating the asylum seekers).
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The United States is fighting wars around the world and has destabilized countries in Central and South America, making itself responsible for far more refugees than it takes in. Talking about the asylum seekers "overrepresenting" certain racial or ethnic groups without mentioning the US's role in turning those people into refugees is racist as fucking hell.
 
Maxima1 said:
I didn't invent anything. Good grief. If she says, "In some cases", then it's quite obvious that she's likely okay with colored people coming here.

Edit: Why are you afraid of me, btw? You'll argue with some of the most staunch conservatives here without saying you'll ignore them constantly.
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I find you tiresome, not scary, and this thread is a good example of why.
 
glenn1 said:
We've gone from about 1 in 20 people in the U.S. being immigrants when she was (presumably) in school to about 1 in 7 now. That's a fairly profound change and one that I'm not surprised that some folks are having trouble adjusting to. People are having trouble adjusting to all kinds of changes in the U.S. and greater world, such as people having issues about "income inequality" as I pointed out earlier - we don't accuse folks concerned about that of hatred.

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If having an opinion about the proper rate of legal immigration is racist then the entire American electorate is racist.
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I honestly do not understand what these people are "having trouble adjusting to".
 
fskimospy said:
If that opinion is about changing demographics then of course it’s racist. You know as well as I do if those immigrants were whites Ingraham wouldn’t be so worried.
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Au contraire.. if those immigrants were whites, she'd be worried that they weren't white enough.
 
fskimospy said:
I find you tiresome, not scary, and this thread is a good example of why.
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Haha. And they aren't tiresome?

Btw, did you change your mind about Jeong or are you still fixating on whataboutism from conservatives in regards to "being PC"?
 
fskimospy said:
I always find it funny that the areas with the most immigrants have the best opinions of immigration even if you only survey the native born. It’s the places with few immigrants that really hate immigration despite the fact that it basically doesn’t affect them.

It’s just like how the people in rural Kansas are petrified by the specter of terrorism while the people in actual terrorist targets aren’t nearly so concerned. Someone should let them know that ISIS isn’t coming to blow up their local Food Lion.
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The MS-13 fear is out of this world.

https://www.axios.com/trump-voters-...oll-d08a8ba8-823e-4158-8e24-fa2b7cbc9616.html
 
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