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Jhhnn

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Easy, rather than assuming her motivations are racist think about the point behind them.

A large part of the US immigration policy now is based on a diversity lottery where immigrants are granted access based on their country of origin rather than assessing their ability to contribute or be successful in America. As someone who lives in the second highest density of Somali in the world, I can attest to how it changes demographics and how too many immigrants flooding an area too fast hinders social and cultural adjustment, perhaps pushing it back by several generations, not to mention the difficulties these people have with attaining employment as they have little to no skills or ability to speak English. For many, government financial aid is required to get by.

Now, I will say that much of this is to be expected when people move to a foreign land. But, to play Devil's Advocate, I think what she's saying is given all these conditions there reaches a point of critical mass when too rapid of an influx of people with the inability to support themselves and adapt to American culture causes the immigration to become not only highly inconvenient for existing citizens, but ultimately detrimental to the immigrants themselves as the easy path is to get government benefits and not assimilate, which ultimately leads to the local populace growing more resentful and the immigrants becoming more and more culturally isolated, which benefits no one.

Immigration is crucial to America remaining a prosperous and robust melting pot of people and ideas, but it can be a double edged sword if not done thoughtfully and carefully. The United States was built on immigrants and we should continue to welcome people who want to come here for a better life for themselves and loved ones.

*Cue the "you disagree therefore you're a Nazi racist" responses.

The Somalis in this country were not chosen by lottery. They mostly came by way of asylum from civil war & chain immigration thereafter. Your representation of the lottery system is bullshit. I turned wrenches with a guy from Morocco who came here via lottery. He had to apply through the State Dept & was very carefully screened from many more applicants. He already had a college degree that was useless to him in Morocco because of nepotism & corruption in his homeland.

The notion that immigrants don't assimilate well because there are too many is pure bullshit. It's a circle the wagons headset. If western settlers had done that as much as white conservatives now do they wouldn't have made it very far out of St Louis.
 

Stokely

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Old white people are generally scared and angry over anything that threatens their leave-it-to-Beaver tinted view of the past.

They lament God being "taken out of schools" and fret about Christians coming under attack, when nobody anywhere is making it harder for them to practice their religion. People have made it harder for them to foist their religion and "morals" on others is all.

Speaking only for my older relatives and their friends, they'd be a lot better off if they turned off local and cable news (Fox, but I'd say the same to some degree for any of them). It's a constant drumbeat of propaganda that feeds all their fear and anger pretty much every hour of the day. Actual news stories, great, but step away from the crack and go out and actually talk to people, including brown people, and maybe you'll just see them as people with the same problems as you have, and not some rapist gangster antifa member.
 

Jhhnn

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Old white people are generally scared and angry over anything that threatens their leave-it-to-Beaver tinted view of the past.

They lament God being "taken out of schools" and fret about Christians coming under attack, when nobody anywhere is making it harder for them to practice their religion. People have made it harder for them to foist their religion and "morals" on others is all.

Speaking only for my older relatives and their friends, they'd be a lot better off if they turned off local and cable news (Fox, but I'd say the same to some degree for any of them). It's a constant drumbeat of propaganda that feeds all their fear and anger pretty much every hour of the day. Actual news stories, great, but step away from the crack and go out and actually talk to people, including brown people, and maybe you'll just see them as people with the same problems as you have, and not some rapist gangster antifa member.

That's too broad a brush. Many early boomers who came of age in the 60's don't think that way at all & never did.
 
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Moonbeam

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Racism is a form of irrational entitlement. The belief that one is somehow better than other people, not because of any merit of their own, but because of the merits of people the racist imagines that they're related to, but really aren't.
For me the way we define racism is less important than understanding why it has such wide and varied appeal. My opinion is that it arises out of self hate that is suppressed and leaks out only unconsciously. We live in a world full of competition with a tremendous price to pay for failure and thus an astounding need for acceptance and praise from other people. This fear causes us to brutalize our children to make them successful and the way we do that is to make them feel how bad it is to fail. We put them down and teach them to feel disgusted with themselves. It is this that causes us to project that contempt on the other, the deviant. That is how we tell ourselves we are superior. Ego is unconscious inferiority projected on others. We are good and the other is bad and we need that belief to hide from how we really feel.
 

woolfe9998

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I looked at the clip, and she said, "In some cases legal immigration". It seems primarily about low-skilled peoples coming over here. Everyone knows that immigrant groups don't necessarily meet the white benchmark on crime, education, etc generations down the line. Do you think Canada is being racist? They're taking in waaaay more of the cream of the crop as a proportion of their population than the US does.

Nonsense. You should look at her entire 10 minute clip. There is no discussion there about job skills or any economic issue at all. It consists of her lamenting demographic changes which are a product of illegal immigration and some legal immigration (newsflash: some legal immigration comes from predominantly white countries.)

She then goes on to discuss two examples of illegal Mexican immigrants committing serious crimes, and one Iraqi shooting someone. Standard GOP playbook in the Trump era - use individual cases of crime to paint entire non-white immigrant populations as criminals. Ignore actual FBI crime statistics showing illegal immigrants commit violent crime at a slightly lower rate than citizens.

She knows her audience. It's an audience of people who are very ready and willing to paint entire populations of non-white people as dangerous because of the actions of a tiny handful of individuals. And its a national emergency! Trump urgently needs to give a speech to address this emergency!

Can you imagine saying on FoxNews that since two white people committed murder just yesterday that we have a national emergency on our hands about what to do about the rampant criminality of white people, an emergency of such magnitude and immediacy that the POTUS must make a speech from the oval office about it right now.

I'm afraid your comprehension skills are sorely lacking.
 

BoomerD

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This lady should fit right in...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-news-lauren-cutshaw-pleads-cops-20180809-story.html

Real estate agent accused of drunken driving pleads with cops that she is a 'very clean, thoroughbred, white girl'

A woman seen speeding through a stop sign at 60 mph told officers they shouldn't arrest her because she's a "very clean, thoroughbred, white girl," police said.

Her eyes glassy and bloodshot, Lauren Elizabeth Cutshaw was slurring her words and a Breathalyzer showed her blood-alcohol level at 0.18 percent, according to police in Bluffton, South Carolina.

Cutshaw, 32, told the arresting officer she shouldn't be jailed because she was a cheerleader, a dancer and a sorority girl who graduated from a "high accredited university."

Taken to the police station in handcuffs, she described herself as a white "thoroughbred" and "went on to say 'I'm a white, clean girl,'" the officer wrote in his report.


"I asked what that had to do with anything?" wrote the officer, who also is white.

She replied, "You're a cop, you should know what that means," and, "You're a cop, you should know based on the people that come in this room."

Also, "she repeatedly stated, 'my partner is a cop,'" and said she'd been trying to get to her boyfriend's house when she was pulled over early Saturday.

Cutshaw, a real estate agent, told the officer that she'd had two glasses of wine at an upscale restaurant.

How full were the wine glasses? "I mean I was celebrating my birthday," she replied.

After another officer found marijuana and rolling papers in her Ford Fusion, she said she "may have" smoked pot earlier that evening as well, the report said.

Cutshaw was jailed on charges including drunken driving, speeding and marijuana possession, based in part on her own statements.

"Making statements such as these as a means to justify not being arrested are unusual in my experience as a law enforcement officer and I believe further demonstrate the suspect's level of intoxication," the officer wrote.

Messages left at the real estate firm she lists as her employer were not immediately returned.

Bluffton is a town of about 21,000 residents about 20 miles northeast of Savannah, Georgia, and near South Carolina's Hilton Head Island.

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2018/08/lauren-elizabeth-cutshaw-bluffton-dui-woman-arrested/
 

Jhhnn

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Like a lot of conservative commentators, Ingraham just reads from the script for the big money. She adopted her daughter from Guatemala. Go figure.
 

Maxima1

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Nonsense. You should look at her entire 10 minute clip. There is no discussion there about job skills or any economic issue at all. It consists of her lamenting demographic changes which are a product of illegal immigration and some legal immigration (newsflash: some legal immigration comes from predominantly white countries.)

It literally has footage of people picking crops. I don't get your "newsflash" point as much of legal immigration is colored people, while she laments only about "some legal immigration"

She then goes on to discuss two examples of illegal Mexican immigrants committing serious crimes, and one Iraqi shooting someone. Standard GOP playbook in the Trump era - use individual cases of crime to paint entire non-white immigrant populations as criminals. Ignore actual FBI crime statistics showing illegal immigrants commit violent crime at a slightly lower rate than citizens.

Go look at US international academic scores and the crime rate of succeeding generations of Latinos or certain subgroups. Is Canada racist? They clearly think a demographic shift would be bad otherwise they would be fine with just randomly selecting them.

Can you imagine saying on FoxNews that since two white people committed murder just yesterday that we have a national emergency on our hands about what to do about the rampant criminality of white people, and emergency of such magnitude and immediacy that the POTUS must make a speech from the oval office about it right now.

I'm afraid your comprehension skills are sorely lacking.

It's not about just anecdotes. Are they oppressed or not? The liberal perspective is that they have shortcomings as a group, and that it's due to the systemic racism from white people.
 

Viper1j

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We've gone from about 1 in 20 people in the U.S. being immigrants when she was (presumably) in school to about 1 in 7 now. That's a fairly profound change and one that I'm not surprised that some folks are having trouble adjusting to. People are having trouble adjusting to all kinds of changes in the U.S. and greater world, such as people having issues about "income inequality" as I pointed out earlier - we don't accuse folks concerned about that of hatred.

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If having an opinion about the proper rate of legal immigration is racist then the entire American electorate is racist.


Actually, those charts are 100% wrong, because the United States is 100% immigrant, and you can't go higher than 100%.

Additionally...
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Jaskalas

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Yeah i have never understood the idea of people who think population growth is a good necessary thing.

1: Power. Large nations are powerful nations. (We're large enough)
2: Pyramid schemes. Our retirement models are based on growth and shaking down future generations.
(Grandchildren can pay for Grandparents when they outnumber them 3 to 1.)
 

Stokely

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yep, not so much about the number of people, but about how they are distributed age-wise. Ask Japan if there is any problem with having a quickly-growing retired population (relative to the working one).

Also, I don't consider overpopulation much of a problem in America, Europe etc., at least not compared to the truly-fast-growing ones.
 

HomerJS

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Easy, rather than assuming her motivations are racist think about the point behind them.

A large part of the US immigration policy now is based on a diversity lottery where immigrants are granted access based on their country of origin rather than assessing their ability to contribute or be successful in America. As someone who lives in the second highest density of Somali in the world, I can attest to how it changes demographics and how too many immigrants flooding an area too fast hinders social and cultural adjustment, perhaps pushing it back by several generations, not to mention the difficulties these people have with attaining employment as they have little to no skills or ability to speak English. For many, government financial aid is required to get by.

Now, I will say that much of this is to be expected when people move to a foreign land. But, to play Devil's Advocate, I think what she's saying is given all these conditions there reaches a point of critical mass when too rapid of an influx of people with the inability to support themselves and adapt to American culture causes the immigration to become not only highly inconvenient for existing citizens, but ultimately detrimental to the immigrants themselves as the easy path is to get government benefits and not assimilate, which ultimately leads to the local populace growing more resentful and the immigrants becoming more and more culturally isolated, which benefits no one.

Immigration is crucial to America remaining a prosperous and robust melting pot of people and ideas, but it can be a double edged sword if not done thoughtfully and carefully. The United States was built on immigrants and we should continue to welcome people who want to come here for a better life for themselves and loved ones.

*Cue the "you disagree therefore you're a Nazi racist" responses.
Trump himself said he doesn't want immigrants from "shithole" countries, the ones with black people but prefers them from "Norway". That is the complexion of the country she refers to. The denigration of immigrants are always people of color.

Can't understand that??
 

Maxima1

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Nonsense. You should look at her entire 10 minute clip.

So I decided to do as you said, and I just don't see it. They show them climbing walls, picking crops, talking about sanctuary cities, etc. -- the topic is clearly focused on illegal immigrants coming in from the border, not legal immigrants. Sure, it doesn't outright say "low-skilled labor", but everyone knows that illegal immigration at the border isn't selective and that those immigrants take jobs the natives don't want for the wages they receive. There isn't going to be near the outrage generated at high-skill immigrants becoming scientists/engineers/entrepreneurs at a higher rate the the white baseline. Even for Republicans, decreasing legal immigration is a minority Republican view. Even then, a large amount of Republicans are still sympathetic to illegals.

I realize there are disingenuous arguments about a person raping/murdering someone and then using it to generate hate/outrage (really no different than the incessant anecdotes over "oppression" of blacks in the more "liberal" media), but there is a point to consider i.e. what is the crime rate as a group vs. white population? From my understanding, the rate is lower for illegal immigrants, but increases for their future generations, which is higher than the white population here.

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woolfe9998

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So I decided to do as you said, and I just don't see it. They show them climbing walls, picking crops, talking about sanctuary cities, etc. -- the topic is clearly focused on illegal immigrants coming in from the border, not legal immigrants. Sure, it doesn't outright say "low-skilled labor", but everyone knows that illegal immigration at the border isn't selective and that those immigrants take jobs the natives don't want for the wages they receive. There isn't going to be near the outrage generated at high-skill immigrants becoming scientists/engineers/entrepreneurs at a higher rate the the white baseline. Even for Republicans, decreasing legal immigration is a minority Republican view. Even then, a large amount of Republicans are still sympathetic to illegals.

Yes, it shows people picking crops, which immediately signals "Mexican" to the viewer, to be clear we aren't talking about any other kinds of immigrants. I'm fairly certain that if Ms. Ingraham meant to say, "these unskilled workers are taking our jobs by undercutting our pay" that is what she would have said. Yet she said not one thing about jobs or economics. Her "national emergency" is an immigrant related crime wave which doesn't exist. She said nothing about the economy. You don't get to say it for her now.

Her entire presentation is based on three pieces of "evidence," all of them crimes, two committed by individual Mexicans and one by an Arab. Crime signals "fear." We should be afraid of these people. They may shoot us. And, according to her, this is a "national emergency." She declares it an emergency without citing any actual data to support her case. Think about that.

I realize there are disingenuous arguments about a person raping/murdering someone and then using it to generate hate/outrage (really no different than the incessant anecdotes over "oppression" of blacks in the more "liberal" media), but there is a point to consider i.e. what is the crime rate as a group vs. white population? From my understanding, the rate is lower for illegal immigrants, but increases for their future generations, which is higher than the white population here.

If the relevant statistics are in fact mixed, then she should discuss them. All of them. Because they are all more relevant than a few anecdotes, which bear literally ZERO logical relevance. You can find 2 or even 2000 criminals in any group that large. Making arguments by anecdote is the classic strategy of the bigot, and/or the demagogue who seeks support from bigots. Generalizing from two cases to a population of 10's of millions is exactly what racists DO. I can't think of anything that more squarely defines racism than the practice of over-generalizing from individual behavior.

So far as the stats go, we have one statistic which shows illegals committing slightly less violent crime than citizens (but slightly more property crime). However, we don't know the overall crime rates for Hispanics because the FBI data classifies Hispanics as "white." Prison population studies, however, show that while blacks are about 3.5x more likely to be incarcerated than whites (the reasons for this being controversial), Hispanics are only slightly more likely to be incarcerated than whites. This kind of data should be addressed rather than fear mongering with these individual crimes.
 

Moonbeam

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Stereotyping serve two purposes based on fear. It serves as a means to put people into different categories of value providing those who do not match the stereotype with a sense of superiority and or category insensitivity. It also serves as a means to put other categories down, via the fear of being in that category. The fear of being different is the fear of suffering the pain that is met out to those who are different, at least according to categories we create for that purpose, and this is where you get what Vic was talking about with entitlement. Nobody who has the privilege of not fitting into a demeaned category wants to fall into such a category. This is projection. A dominant category does not want to lose the privilege of being the dominant category because it knows full well how it treats the so called inferior. It fears itself and as a result creates exactly what it fears, hatred returned in kind.

The important factor that I see in this is fear at the root of all sorts of social division. Fear creates hatred of the thing feared which created hatred in return for fear of that hate. Hate fears hate creates hate and there is no way out of that but love. There is no such thing as the other. If you look into the stinking mess that hate has made of religion you will find somewhere in all of it, lip service that God loves us each and every one all equally. And we should know, all those who do not believe, because we created God in our true image. The religious just need to get the wax our of their ears.
 

hal2kilo

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That's what gets me about the MAGA types. They think the United States was far better at some unspecified point in the distant past, but when pressed on exactly what they thought was better at this point they get suspiciously vague. In terms of medicine, technology, safety etc nearly everyone is better off. Violent crime has been declining for decades. What's left? Primarily social issues. Which boils down to them likely wanting the social structure of the United States rolled back 50 or 60 years. Back when things were fantastic (for people who looked like them).
Que in the Leave It to Beaver theme.
 

Maxima1

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Yes, it shows people picking crops, which immediately signals "Mexican" to the viewer, to be clear we aren't talking about any other kinds of immigrants.

Why just fixate on that? As you just admitted, people see an association between illegal immigrants from the border and low-skilled labor. Seeing that in the background just screams to me that.

I'm fairly certain that if Ms. Ingraham meant to say, "these unskilled workers are taking our jobs by undercutting our pay" that is what she would have said. Yet she said not one thing about jobs or economics. Her "national emergency" is an immigrant related crime wave which doesn't exist. She said nothing about the economy. You don't get to say it for her now.

She starts off talking smack about the "socialist" Ocasio-Cortez and then weaves this into the illegal immigration discussion. I get the impression she thinks (or what she's putting on for show) the more progressive wing of the Democratic party believes illegal immigrants need to be coddled and pampered with public programs. Case in point, the "some legal immigration" statement that she says "the progressives love" seems to suggests that some legal immigrants come here and remain largely on public programs for an extended period of time.

Her entire presentation is based on three pieces of "evidence," all of them crimes, two committed by individual Mexicans and one by an Arab. Crime signals "fear." We should be afraid of these people. They may shoot us. And, according to her, this is a "national emergency." She declares it an emergency without citing any actual data to support her case. Think about that.

Yeah, this is how the news operates -- chasing the ratings and access journalism.

If the relevant statistics are in fact mixed, then she should discuss them. All of them. Because they are all more relevant than a few anecdotes, which bear literally ZERO logical relevance. You can find 2 or even 2000 criminals in any group that large. Making arguments by anecdote is the classic strategy of the bigot, and/or the demagogue who seeks support from bigots. Generalizing from two cases to a population of 10's of millions is exactly what racists DO. I can't think of anything that more squarely defines racism than the practice of over-generalizing from individual behavior.

So far as the stats go, we have one statistic which shows illegals committing slightly less violent crime than citizens (but slightly more property crime). However, we don't know the overall crime rates for Hispanics because the FBI data classifies Hispanics as "white." Prison population studies, however, show that while blacks are about 3.5x more likely to be incarcerated than whites (the reasons for this being controversial), Hispanics are only slightly more likely to be incarcerated than whites. This kind of data should be addressed rather than fear mongering with these individual crimes.

Yes, but each side is disingenuous about it or they don't understand. See below for two examples. For the first, the primary problem is that the "native" population should not include other groups; for example, just 6% of the population is responsible for almost half of the homicides here.

The second shows the ridiculous crap in the media about how US schools are "failing" us. We see a different story if you break it into racial groups. It never made any sense either that Canada was "ahead" of us.
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Science Literacy: Race and Ethnicity

https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2015/pisa2015highlights_3f.asp
 

Paratus

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So she said “we didn’t vote for this demographic change”.

She also said the problem is “illegal and even some legal immigration”.

So my question is since she’s a single mother who adopted 3 children including a girl from Guatemala and two boys from Russia is she saying we all should have had a vote on her adoption or that adoption of immigrants is a legal immigration problem?

I assume not.

If not, why is her daughters situation ok vs some other immigrant child?
 

fskimospy

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So she said “we didn’t vote for this demographic change”.

She also said the problem is “illegal and even some legal immigration”.

So my question is since she’s a single mother who adopted 3 children including a girl from Guatemala and two boys from Russia is she saying we all should have had a vote on her adoption or that adoption of immigrants is a legal immigration problem?

I assume not.

If not, why is her daughters situation ok vs some other immigrant child?

It’s almost as if she’s playing the standard right wing pundit game where they say something shitty, people get angry about it, and then they start in with the ‘who, me?’ nonsense.

This way you get better ratings and support from your conservative viewers who are affirmatively happy you’re saying shitty things and you don’t lose your advertisers. Every once in a while they miscalculate and that’s when you get a run on their advertisers.

Edit: It’s like with Ann Coulter. Next time you see her in the media for saying something awful check her website - I’ll bet you money she has a book coming out. It’s all just for attention.
 

Maxima1

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So she said “we didn’t vote for this demographic change”.

She also said the problem is “illegal and even some legal immigration”.

So my question is since she’s a single mother who adopted 3 children including a girl from Guatemala and two boys from Russia is she saying we all should have had a vote on her adoption or that adoption of immigrants is a legal immigration problem?

I assume not.

If not, why is her daughters situation ok vs some other immigrant child?

That "some legal immigration" tidbit probably refers to people who come here without real job prospects. It's not some stupid thing about "whites only". Canada has a high-skilled immigration policy for similar reasons, but they also realize how much you can get out of highly educated and smart immigrants.. Do you have a problem with them?
 

woolfe9998

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Why just fixate on that? As you just admitted, people see an association between illegal immigrants from the border and low-skilled labor. Seeing that in the background just screams to me that.

I'm pointing out that everything she said in her segment was related to crime. You're claiming that an economic argument is made by implication based on background images. Like I said, if she wanted to make an economic argument, she would have made one. She CHOSE crime as the focus of criticism of illegal immigration for a reason.

She starts off talking smack about the "socialist" Ocasio-Cortez and then weaves this into the illegal immigration discussion. I get the impression she thinks (or what she's putting on for show) the more progressive wing of the Democratic party believes illegal immigrants need to be coddled and pampered with public programs. Case in point, the "some legal immigration" statement that she says "the progressives love" seems to suggests that some legal immigrants come here and remain largely on public programs for an extended period of time.

She is trying to blame democrats for specific crimes committed by particular illegals. That aspect of her comments is just pure partisanship. It doesn't bear much one way or the other on whether we interpret her comments as racist. Rather, her selection of crime as the focal point, and especially her use of only cherry picked anecdotes to prove her point, is what identifies this as a racist rant.


Yes, but each side is disingenuous about it or they don't understand. See below for two examples. For the first, the primary problem is that the "native" population should not include other groups; for example, just 6% of the population is responsible for almost half of the homicides here.

The second shows the ridiculous crap in the media about how US schools are "failing" us. We see a different story if you break it into racial groups. It never made any sense either that Canada was "ahead" of us.
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Science Literacy: Race and Ethnicity

https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/pisa2015/pisa2015highlights_3f.asp

This is off topic if what we're discussing in this thread is whether Ingraham's comments were racist. Which last I checked is the subject matter here.

If you really think that finding an 8 year old crime, selected because of its heinousness and tendency to produce an emotional reaction in viewers, to argue against illegal immigrants in general, and calling it a national emergency based on literally nothing but that, isn't racist but is rather some comment on the economic impact of illegal immigration, I don't know what to tell you. Ask yourself this: do YOU think one can prove a national crime emergency is afoot using two examples, one of them almost a decade old? If not, why do you think Ingraham is doing it?

I should mention, BTW, that I am a frequent critic of political correctness on the left, and of the left's identity politics, especially the overuse of the charge of racism. But this rant was racist. As is Trump's similar rants on the topic. They are appealing to the lowest common denominator among us.