Former Russian Terrorist Tragedy Thread

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Isla

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Isla
I've been devastated by this all day.

The reality is that this could very well happen HERE next. I wonder how many people realize this?

ha! you buddy are living in the past! it could never happen, the students would pull their guns out and shoot the attackers!

Heh, I only wish that were true. I'm a public school teacher and I see very well how it could happen.

then i suggest you constrain your comments to teacher subjects.

LOL! Well, you know what you can do with your suggestions, however weak and pathetic they may be! I mean, COME ON! Surely you can come up with a better use of your posting time than taking potshots at me. :disgust:
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Isla
I've been devastated by this all day.

The reality is that this could very well happen HERE next. I wonder how many people realize this?

ha! you buddy are living in the past! it could never happen, the students would pull their guns out and shoot the attackers!

Heh, I only wish that were true. I'm a public school teacher and I see very well how it could happen.

then i suggest you constrain your comments to teacher subjects.

Trolling down the river, trolling, trolling, trolling down the riiiiiver.

I suggest you constrain your comments PERIOD.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
oy, the uncensored pics on sites like ogrish etc.. ugly stuff.

and pretending that some ideologies are not more dangerous then others. thats just being blind to reason

You're looking at too small a slice of history. And what do you qualify as more dangerous? Number of dead?


Don't get me wrong. THESE Muslims are scum. I'm opposed to Iraq and branding all Muslims evil but I've long supported the Russians on their war on the Chechen rebels.

But this ideological holier than thou stuff is bogus.

Then we are on opposing sides because i am FOR the chechenyan freedom.

It is a problem that Russia isn't handling very well, you know why i am sure.
 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: csf
Originally posted by: rchiu

Have you ever thought about why those people are so fanatic about the religion? Could it be that they have nothing to live for in the current world, and their only hope is in the after life?

I read about an article the other day on the role of women Chechnian rebels, which is highly unusual in the Muslim world where women's role is at home. The reason that there are many women terrorist during the Moscow theater hostage crisis 2 years ago, and it was women terrorist who blew up the two planes recently was that there aren't many Chechnian men left. Most of the men died fight against Russian. Those women lost their husband, children, really have nothing much to live for. It is easy for the Chechnian politician/terrorist to use religion and lure them into this struggle.

Think about it, if you have a happy life with family around you, why would you wanna die so that maybe you can get into heaven in the after life. The places where you see religious fanatics are those places where hope is lost and people don't have much to live for. Maybe that's a clue for you?

If you can't think with reason and try to dismiss an entire religion without understanding the political and social condition in those troubled places, the only thing you will achieve is self destruction of human race.

Thats great and all, but the primary reason for the Chechnya crisis is that the rebels are a minority of extremists who want to subjugate their nation and the surrounding areas to an Islamic theocracy. Take a look at their past attempts to invade Dagestan and drive out residents who did not subscribe to their brand of Islam (Here, for example). The matter in which the Russians handled these insurrections and the question of whether Islam can ever coexist peacefully with other beliefs is up in the air, but if anyone started the whole terroristic mess, it's Chechnya. I think we can all agree that given the current global struggle over radical Islamic allowing another fundamentalist Islamic theocracy for the sake of appeasement would be a horrible move. I don't see how anyone can sympathize with the beliefs of the Chechan seperatists when their main plight is "we're not being allowed to violently force people around us who don't believe in Islam to conform to our way of life."

And like it or not, your touchy feely apologism doesn't come close to even partially justifying the horrible atrocities in recent days. "Oh, so a woman murdered 50 innocent civilians by bombing them in a plane? Oh, but, but we can't call that wrong because we don't understand their feelings!"

Oh great, another person pretending to know all about the conflicts around the world just because he/she can google. Geezz, I don't want to sound like a Muslim apologist. All I am asking is for people to try and read history, understand how and why the conflicts started and find the real solution to the problem instead of blindly blame everything on Islamic beliefs.

Chechens were not minority Muslim extermist. They are recognized as distinct people since the 17th century. There were CONQUERED by Russian in the 1850's. It has its own capital and a population of approx. 1 mil, mostly Muslim. The conflict between Chechenian and Russia goes way back and it is not because of modern Muslim fundamentalist movement.

I do not condone the atrocities happened in recent days, and I am just as anxious as the next person hoping terrorible things like those acts of terrorism won't happen again. I just do not agree with people ignorantly following the lead of Bush Admin who just blindly blames everything on Islamic fundamentalism, and that the only reason Muslims acting that way is they hate everyone esle, while hiding the facts that many of those conflicts started because of corporate greed, national interest and western imperialism. I believe that ignorance won't solve anything, but instead escalate the confrontation, and that is sad for everyone living on this planet.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Gaard
cr*p?

Good thing you used that asterisk...you might've gone to hell. ;)

Punks like hime go ass first onto the poles of the poled heaven.
 

Isla

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dudeguy, I never crapped in your thread. I posted most sincerely and respectfully... but for some reason (I'm guessing you are a kid?) you decided to make childish and antagonistic comments in response to me. I don't take it personally (it just makes you look bad) yet I will point it out because it is terrible form.

Keep in mind that this is a public message board that we are all free to post on. Even if you think this is 'your' thread, you can't just use it to try to pick fights with people. And if you do, please at least try to do it in a witty, interesting way. :p
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Isla
dudeguy, I never crapped in your thread. I posted most sincerely and respectfully... but for some reason (I'm guessing you are a kid?) you decided to make childish and antagonistic comments in response to me. I don't take it personally (it just makes you look bad) yet I will point it out because it is terrible form.

Keep in mind that this is a public message board that we are all free to post on. Even if you think this is 'your' thread, you can't just use it to try to pick fights with people. And if you do, please at least try to do it in a witty, interesting way. :p

Hahaaa, so very lost in his own thread.

He probably didn't expect the response he got.
 

dudeguy

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Originally posted by: Isla
dudeguy, I never crapped in your thread. I posted most sincerely and respectfully... but for some reason (I'm guessing you are a kid?) you decided to make childish and antagonistic comments in response to me. I don't take it personally (it just makes you look bad) yet I will point it out because it is terrible form.

Keep in mind that this is a public message board that we are all free to post on. Even if you think this is 'your' thread, you can't just use it to try to pick fights with people. And if you do, please at least try to do it in a witty, interesting way. :p

look teach, you arent paid to have an opinion at work, so don't presume you are worthy of having one online!

Klixxer, nevermind.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Isla
dudeguy, I never crapped in your thread. I posted most sincerely and respectfully... but for some reason (I'm guessing you are a kid?) you decided to make childish and antagonistic comments in response to me. I don't take it personally (it just makes you look bad) yet I will point it out because it is terrible form.

Keep in mind that this is a public message board that we are all free to post on. Even if you think this is 'your' thread, you can't just use it to try to pick fights with people. And if you do, please at least try to do it in a witty, interesting way. :p

look teach, you arent paid to have an opinion at work, so don't presume you are worthy of having one online!

Klixxer, nevermind.

Man you are denser than i thought.

SHUT IT!
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.
 

dudeguy

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer

I am starting to change my mind about spanking.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Isla
dudeguy, I never crapped in your thread. I posted most sincerely and respectfully... but for some reason (I'm guessing you are a kid?) you decided to make childish and antagonistic comments in response to me. I don't take it personally (it just makes you look bad) yet I will point it out because it is terrible form.

Keep in mind that this is a public message board that we are all free to post on. Even if you think this is 'your' thread, you can't just use it to try to pick fights with people. And if you do, please at least try to do it in a witty, interesting way. :p

look teach, you arent paid to have an opinion at work, so don't presume you are worthy of having one online!

Klixxer, nevermind.


What an asshole.
 

dudeguy

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer

I am starting to change my mind about spanking.

you mean you are making a personal discovery?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer

I am starting to change my mind about spanking.

you mean you are making a personal discovery?

No i mean that some kids of today are rude little pricks who don't know their head from their asses.

Yeah, that would be you.
 

dudeguy

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer

I am starting to change my mind about spanking.

you mean you are making a personal discovery?

No i mean that some kids of today are rude little pricks who don't know their head from their asses.

Yeah, that would be you.

but i am not a kid, and i probably have a better job than you.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer

I am starting to change my mind about spanking.

you mean you are making a personal discovery?

No i mean that some kids of today are rude little pricks who don't know their head from their asses.

Yeah, that would be you.

but i am not a kid, and i probably have a better job than you.

No, you are in school lusting after Asian women you CAN'T HAVE.

If you had a job it would probably be better than mine, i am a military officer.
 

Kibbo

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I would just like to say that in the wake of September 11, as well as the Bali bombings, I've seen on TV and read in the newspaper several Islamic scholars and religious leaders who decry the violence of their fellow muslims. My newspaper regularly publishes opinon peices by muslims that condemn them. If you haven't seen any of this, maybe you should be questioning your media outlets.

Regarding those who fear that the West will lose, because we feel we must play by different rules. The terrorists lack the military power to destroy our society. They will never be able to bring down our governments, even in the nightmare scenario of a WMD attack.

The risk we run in this war is that our emotional need for security will one day outweigh our emotional desire for our freedoms. If the terrorists are successful, what could happen is that our governments will decend into police states. This is the only way we can lose. Although a strong response to these attacks is of course neccessary, to lose sight of our basic values is the first step on the path to our eventual self-defeat in this conflict.

Note that Russia and Israel both have strategies that are less in line with our "enlightened" values, and yet they seem to have greater troubles with terrorism than us. Resources and Geography of course play a part in that, but I don't think they tell the whole story.

On a side note:
Dudeguy, at what point did one's career limit the validity of one's opinions to that single field? What do you do for a living?
 

dudeguy

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: dudeguy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Dudeguy, change your title, 322 dead 155 of them were children.

Klixxer, the title says breaking news, not update.

Ok, so this is BREAKING NEWS NOW?

No you fvcked up POS it isn't it is OLD NEWS and NOT TRUE.

You don't have to change your title, just sit there and look like a moron, it suits you much better.

thats your role around here old timer

I am starting to change my mind about spanking.

you mean you are making a personal discovery?

No i mean that some kids of today are rude little pricks who don't know their head from their asses.

Yeah, that would be you.

but i am not a kid, and i probably have a better job than you.

No, you are in school lusting after Asian women you CAN'T HAVE.

If you had a job it would probably be better than mine, i am a military officer.

you are an ageing tool, and actually i was nearly engaged to one. but it didnt work out, and my degree was in arabic.