Former NY Times editor rips Trump coverage as biased

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I did not lie (see my edit) but should have been more clear. It did not necessarily originate from Hillary herself, but those tied to her are the originators, or at best the propagators that made birtherism widespread. Any way you slice it, those tied to her are responsible.

I'll forgive you if you make a retraction on this one. It's just plain dumb. You can add to the discussion of politics here bringing in different viewpoints, but it's seriously undercut when you push narratives like this one. Hillary doesn't have anything to do with birtherism, and her campaign acted responsibly when a volunteer staffer stepped out of line. I have a hard time imagining she even knew about someone who simply forwarded an email much less could be held responsible for it.
 
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cytg111

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This "publisher" did not say or do anything other than put together a collage of video clips. The content of the link is 100% factual and created out of actual clips of major media sources. There is no voodoo here, no commentary.
Do you have children? Family with children? Cause I bet I could put something together from your family archives that narrated you a pedophile
 
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One person forwarded an email = propagators that made birtherism widespread. Your brain is fucking broken way beyond repair.


My brain is fine, but there lies the genesis of the birther movement. Someone attached to Hillary's campaign. Not her direction, but someone tied to her efforts to be president in 2008.
 

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My brain is fine, but there lies the genesis of the birther movement. Someone attached to Hillary's campaign. Not her direction, but someone tied to her efforts to be president in 2008.

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hows that stock market doing?
 

cytg111

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You have been corrected on this 1000x times .. each time the same BS bob and weave from you while catching every single jab being thrown at you. Damn son. Take notes on what boards you peddle what BS so you dont repeat yourself like this. Its embarrassing, not only to you but your master as well.

American Division of Russia Today, now featuring : Stupid Internet Trolls. Trying to fix the stupid but its hard! Back to you Vanka.
 
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I'll forgive you if you make a retraction on this one. It's just plain dumb. You can add to the discussion of politics here bringing in different viewpoints, but it's seriously undercut when you push narratives like this one. Hillary doesn't have anything to do with birtherism, and her campaign acted responsibly when a volunteer staffer stepped out of line. I have a hard time imagining she even knew about someone who simply forwarded an email much less could be held responsible for it.


I agree, it was not Hillary herself, I was wrong to say it was "her". It was not. But, it was someone tied to her campaign, and though they have distanced themselves from that person and let them go, that is where the fuse was lit.
 

SlowSpyder

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hows that stock market doing?


Man, I wish the piss tape was real. I'd respect out POTUS a lot more if I knew he liked to get peed on by Russian hookers. Wouldn't you?

Stock market is down, don't know what that has to do with anything in this thread. I'm buying low, not retiring for decades yet. Hope this helps me make wealth.
 

JSt0rm

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Man, I wish the piss tape was real. I'd respect out POTUS a lot more if I knew he liked to get peed on by Russian hookers. Wouldn't you?

Stock market is down, don't know what that has to do with anything in this thread. I'm buying low, not retiring for decades yet. Hope this helps me make wealth.

the piss tape is good because...
 

cytg111

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Let me hold the mirror for you...

Someone attached to Trumps campaign. Not his direction, but someone tied to his efforts to be president in 2016.

- And that is just what we know, whatever Mueller has sticks much deeper .. you know on stuff like Collusion. Conspiracy. Treason. Fraud. Etc.

You point to a bird turd on someone else's lawn and go "yew", while standing in a giant pit of feces in your own yard.

Good job? Again? Master proud?
 

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No where in the story is she quoted as saying anything the Times prints is "fake news" or fabricated in any way. Nor does she even imply it.

And yet that is in the title of this thread.

Why?
 

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No where in the story is she quoted as saying anything the Times prints is "fake news" or fabricated in any way. Nor does she even imply it.

And yet that is in the title of this thread.

Why?

Because Slow's mission in life is to spread alt-right disinformation.
 

woolfe9998

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I agree, it was not Hillary herself, I was wrong to say it was "her". It was not. But, it was someone tied to her campaign, and though they have distanced themselves from that person and let them go, that is where the fuse was lit.

No, no one tied to her campaign could possibly have lit the fuse, because it had been lit years earlier in Illinois by this republican:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin
 

UglyCasanova

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The NYT has been a real disappointment the last few months, not because of bias reporting (which I do think they’re guilty of but to a much less degree than CNN or HuffPo for instance) but hat the quality has gone down and the sensationalism has gone up. I’m a relatively long time subscriber and there’s been a noticible shift away from paper of record reporting to something...else....in the past several months. The marked shift imo came whenever their website was redesigned so I can’t help but think it’s the paper trying to push in a new direction etc. Unfortunately it’s not for the best. They are having to navigate the digital era like everyone else and I think had been doing a good job of it, I’m hoping they don’t succumb to that pressure to lessen their standards when their reputation is the most valuable asset they posses.
 

Jhhnn

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The NYT has been a real disappointment the last few months, not because of bias reporting (which I do think they’re guilty of but to a much less degree than CNN or HuffPo for instance) but hat the quality has gone down and the sensationalism has gone up. I’m a relatively long time subscriber and there’s been a noticible shift away from paper of record reporting to something...else....in the past several months. The marked shift imo came whenever their website was redesigned so I can’t help but think it’s the paper trying to push in a new direction etc. Unfortunately it’s not for the best. They are having to navigate the digital era like everyone else and I think had been doing a good job of it, I’m hoping they don’t succumb to that pressure to lessen their standards when their reputation is the most valuable asset they posses.

The media in general was more sane when we had a sane President, huh? Well, other than Fox & the usual suspects. The problem for the NYT & others is that Trump's lies must be addressed by somebody, somebody like the Free Press. If he quit lying & dissembling, they wouldn't have to call him on it. He dominates the News entirely by choice.
 

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I agree, it was not Hillary herself, I was wrong to say it was "her". It was not. But, it was someone tied to her campaign, and though they have distanced themselves from that person and let them go, that is where the fuse was lit.

I'm curious how you get "fuse was lit" from forwarding an email. Do you have any evidence that this act specifically had any consequence whatsoever? Certainly forwarding indicates outside origin.
 
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No, no one tied to her campaign could possibly have lit the fuse, because it had been lit years earlier in Illinois by this republican:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin
And there it is. I do find shortbusspidey trying to say one person forwarding an email of something already out there is starting it. Lighting the fuse.

Psssst forwarding means it was already out there. Someone else started it. The fuse was lit long before.
 

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Straight up news doesn't sell as well as spin, because people don't want facts, they want to be told that whatever they believe is correct.

It's funny, because that is the content of the text that OP posted. At least, that's how I read your comment. And he liked it--so I like to think that he's too stupid to understand.
 

HomerJS

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The news lied about his crowd sizes. He had thousands to tens of thousands, they downplayed it while Hillary spoke to a few hundred people at some of her events. Hillary's 08 campaign was the original birther movement, cover it the same as when she brought it up.
I see you still unable to answer question honestly.

Trump claimed his crowd size was the largest of all time yet we had pictures. We were able to see with our own eyes he was lying.

as for the birther issue read this and get back to us
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304