Forget speed limits, enforce "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

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Bateluer

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Driving the speed limit makes him an idiot? What an idiotic thing to say.

KT

No, he said he drives below the speed limit. Most highways have speed limits of 65? Driving 55 on a major interstate will cause a traffic problem because everyone else is going 65 or faster.

Speed limits should be raised to 75-85, or removed entirely.
 

Nintendesert

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You can listen to podcasts, audiobooks, language learning tapes, or something else to keep your time efficient. Better yet if you took public transportation you could read, sleep, work, and be even more efficient!

If you time your BMs right before you take a shower you can get away without wiping and be even more efficient! :awe:

The bill is in the mail.




Or you can just talk on the cell phone or text people while driving to really drive up that efficiency!
 

JackBurton

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I haven't read the 5 pages in this thread, but it REALLY shouldn't even go past 1 page. It's simple, if you are not passing KEEP THE FUCK IN THE RIGHT LANE! It's called a PASSING lane, not a "FAST" lane. So again, if you are not passing, fucking keep right!

Things that left lane cruiser deserve:

1. To be tailgated
2. Getting passed, then slowing down to force them in the right lane where they should have been in the first place.
3. High beams turned on where it reflects off the rear view mirror and shines in their eyes. <Best done if you are driving a truck where headlights can shoot right through rear window and right into the rear view mirror> Lights up the inside of the car like a Christmas tree too.
4. Forced off the road.
5. Punched in the face.
6. Whatever else anyone wants to do to them. I don't give a shit.

My dream? That I turn on the news and see a story of an 18 wheeler driving down the highway in the left lane at about 85-90MPH and clearing out the left lane cruisers (not on a busy time where you can't get over). That would be fucking AWESOME!


What do I do? If I'm in the left lane and see someone approaching, I turn on my right turn signal and move to the right. Pretty simple. But apparently there are a shit load of morons that can't understand this simple rule.
 
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No, he said he drives below the speed limit. Most highways have speed limits of 65? Driving 55 on a major interstate will cause a traffic problem because everyone else is going 65 or faster.

Speed limits should be raised to 75-85, or removed entirely.

I never said anything about going below the limit. I go the limit, which is 55 here in Oregon.

Who's the idiot?
 

Zorkorist

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Driving the speed limit makes him an idiot? What an idiotic thing to say.

KT
It absolutely makes him an idiot.

A good driver is a defensive driver, and one that drives to the conditions.

If the conditions merit that he should drive 65, then he should drive 65.

Driving the speed limit absolutely does make him an idiot, and you for trying to justify it.

-John
 

sactoking

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I haven't read the 5 pages in this thread, but it REALLY shouldn't even go past 1 page. It's simple, if you are not passing KEEP THE FUCK IN THE RIGHT LANE! It's called a PASSING lane, not a "FAST" lane. So again, if you are not passing, fucking keep right!

It's not a "passing" lane where I live. There is no law here that says you can't go 65 in the leftmost lane.

Arguing about this topic is just as stupid as ranting/arguing about the validity of turning right on red or changing lanes in an intersection. Here's a tip: these are STATE laws, there are 50 different sets of them.
 

ShawnD1

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Oh, there's a free lane? Novel thought - GO AROUND.
This. I pass in the right lane all the time.

Left lane driving is interesting. In the left lane, I go as fast as the person in front of me. This is so I'm "with the flow" and not the one person going 90mph or whatever. If that person gets out of the way and suddenly I'm in the lead, I get out of the left lane and go whatever speed the right lane is going. I have no problems driving way over the speed limit, but there's no way I'm going to be the guy in front who gets nailed by police. Police can be anywhere, but when the LIDAR is pointed at a nose end of a line of cars, it seems most likely they are reading the speed of the car leading the pack.


It's not a "passing" lane where I live. There is no law here that says you can't go 65 in the leftmost lane.
The unwritten use for the left lane depends where you are. At certain high traffic merge areas, the left lane is the going straight lane and the right lane is cleared for stupid retards trying to merge going half the speed limit. Either you get in the left lane, or you stay in the right lane and slow down to 30mph. It's your choice.

I should post some pictures of what on-off ramps look like in Edmonton, Canada. You guys living in California with clover leafed 4 lane roads will not believe how ridiculously dangerous the design of these is. Instead of having a nice clover leaf, it's almost like a reversed clover leaf. Normally the ramp off the freeway comes before the ramp onto the freeway, so cars getting off and cars getting on do not intersect at all; it is literally impossible for them to collide. In Edmonton, it's the other way around, so the on ramp is before the off ramp. People getting on the freeway and people getting off the freeway have intersecting paths. It just blows my mind how dangerous this design is. Who authorized this?!?!
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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if people are driving slow in a lane and i have room to go around, then I'll do that.

if they're driving slow as hell and blocking traffic then i'll drive next to them about the same speed if i'm bored.

sometimes i'll just start driving in their lane and they usually move.

the worst is when it's an off ramp that has a suggested speed of 60 mph. usually the suggested speed is about half of what you can actually go and people are traveling ~5mph less than that speed while I'm doing ~100. That's when they get cut off without turn signals.
 

ShawnD1

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the worst is when it's an off ramp that has a suggested speed of 60 mph. usually the suggested speed is about half of what you can actually go and people are traveling ~5mph less than that speed while I'm doing ~100. That's when they get cut off without turn signals.

You're driving 100mph on the ramp? lol
 

zsdersw

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Do me a favor, do 90mph, get pulled over, and tell the officer that exact same thing. Then, in court, tell the judge that exact same thing. Let us know how that works out for you.

Chances are I'll do 90mph for brief periods on the way to work today, but the likelihood that I'll be pulled over is no greater than normal because I don't go that fast where cops are found.. and I know where all of those areas are on my daily commute.
 
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zsdersw

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There should be only one law with regards to how fast you can drive: only as fast as conditions permit.

Traffic, weather, road quality, vehicle type and condition are all better judges of what speed is safe than an arbitrarily decided limit.. and all of those factors have and do determine how fast I drive.

Many of the same drivers I blaze past on dry roads are the same ones blazing past me when the roads are snowy/icy, because I regularly go only the speed limit (or slower) in those conditions. Who's being smarter in each situation?

Being inattentive is the largest contributor to car accidents, too.. and that's something I never am.
 
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zsdersw

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Your a freaking rookie! Sheese on long trips I set the cruise control at 95....hell when my Father had his heart attack several months ago, the hospital was 118 miles from where I live. I jumped on I-5 at 10 PM and was at the hospital in 1 hour and 15 minutes.

I live in WI. There is no road, interstate or otherwise, on which it is safe or reasonable to set the cruise at 95. I regularly go 95mph for brief periods, but never set the cruise at 95.

The closest we come to that are some exceptionally straight stretches of highway (hwy 57, for example, a divided highway that bisects Sheboygan county) that come close, but because there are houses and farms along it and a lot of cross-traffic it is not safe to go 95mph. Traffic is very light on this highway, but it is rural; deer like to run across it too. I don't go faster than 63-64mph (posted speed limit is 55) on it.
 

ShawnD1

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well, you kinda have to.

Uh no? There's a turn like that on my way home from work and nobody has ever cut in front of me because I always keep the car in first gear so I can accelerate and immediately slow down without using the brakes. The gap between me and the next car is no more than 5 feet at any time.
 

TecHNooB

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Uh no? There's a turn like that on my way home from work and nobody has ever cut in front of me because I always keep the car in first gear so I can accelerate and immediately slow down without using the brakes. The gap between me and the next car is no more than 5 feet at any time.

5 feet is a lot of space lol. drive on route 10 on NJ during rush hour traffic. theyll find their way in if there's even a foot of space.

No, you don't.

so you're in favor of potentially causing a small (and stupid) accident over a 5 second hassle? and yes, you have to let trucks in if they 'insist'
 
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Ninjahedge

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After driving manual for 15 years the thing that would annoy me would be teh pedal jockeys that woud seem to need to squeeze into any spot they could fit their car in to get that 1 or 2 car length advantage.

So, when coming up to a light and trying to time it so I don't need to come to a full stop (highway) some joker would cut me off and force me to stop (and put it back in gear).

It makes such a difference when you time it right and are still going 15mph at the line when the light changes green!

But aside from that, it is again the ones that do not look more than 2 cars ahead that are the turbulent-flow efficiency ruiners. Changing lanes 16 times to try to do a traffic slalom slows everyone down.


The only left lane slowpoke that annoys me are the ones that pace their neighbor in the right. Coming down route 80 (65 limit) at 60 because someone is pacing the ones they should be passing is frustrating. It is especially so when they do it for MILES.....


But the OP? That is deliberate dickish driving. If you get by the guy you were tailgating, just go. You are not the cops or their parents. You have watsted more time, gas, brake pads and patience by being a dick about it than just by passing on the right and moving on.
 

zsdersw

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But the OP? That is deliberate dickish driving. If you get by the guy you were tailgating, just go. You are not the cops or their parents. You have watsted more time, gas, brake pads and patience by being a dick about it than just by passing on the right and moving on.

Better they get forced to put their phone down and pay attention by me than get into an accident they were too inattentive to avoid.
 

BarkingGhostar

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I doubt there is a cop in the known universe that is going to sit aside their coffee and donuts to chase a slow-poke, unless they are in a hurry and upset prior to the encounter.