Forget speed limits, enforce "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

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ShawnD1

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TecHNooB said:
If you have time to go through the hassle of causing a 5-10 mph collision (where your vehicle is technically 'behind' the vehicle you hit) during rush hour traffic and stop to bitch at the driver, then I'm all for it. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not going anywhere and watching you and the person you hit argue while everyone else is yelling at you for exacerbating the current traffic situation is extremely entertaining. But I wouldn't want to be the one to cause that situation. I'd rather be at home neffing on atot ():)
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There's no need to yell at the other driver. If I'm in a bigger truck and their car is completely ruined, then that's enough to satisfy me.

Also, it's remarkably easy to write a car off. Some piece of shit ran a stop sign and t-boned my Honda Civic. It didn't look that bad, but apparently it bent the frame and a few other key parts of the car, and the estimated cost to replace just the airbags was thousands of dollars. The insurance company gave me $15,000 because that was the blue book value of the car. Pretty much anything you do to a cheap car will be a write off. A heavy Ford F150 hitting something like a 1 year old Dodge Neon at a sharp angle (because he sharply cuts in front of you) is easily enough to bend the frame, destroy the door assembly, and write off the car. Damage to the F150 might be $15 - the cost of paint to cover the scratch on the bumper.

Seeing a car rear end a bus was pretty funny. Car was completely mangled and the guy in the car had to be taken away in an ambulance. I was on the bus at the time, and I didn't even realize we were hit by a car. There was a gentle thump and the bus driver tells everyone to get off the bus and catch the next one.
 
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CycloWizard

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KeithTalent said:
So you obviously did not read his post or my post as he drives 55 because THAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT IN HIS STATE.

I drive the speed limit 95% of the time, generally only going over it when merging on to the highway or passing (I rarely pass, unless someones turning, because it's not necessary most of the time). I drive in the right lane 99% of the time. I have never received a ticket (got a warning once when my ex pushed my leg down on the gas pedal and we happened to blast by a cop, but that's it), never been in an accident, and have never caused one by driving this way.

You may not have had any issues with your constant speeding, but I like my chances of staying clear of violations and accidents by following my driving habits over what yours appear to be.

KT
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You really are illiterate. You can't get past his first sentence, even though I quoted the part of his post I was directly referencing. He said to me, "You should never need to go faster than 55." "You" is the second person pronoun. Thus, he was referring to me, telling me never to drive over 55 mph. In the context of his post, and since "you" is also the plural form of the second person pronoun, he was stating this to everyone, not just me. But that's only if you can read and understand the English language. I drive as fast as it is safe to do so rather than strictly following speed limits designed to generate revenue rather than what is safe. I've never been in an accident when I was driving, at fault or otherwise, because I drive defensively (other than perhaps some of the gestures I give to idiots like Scholzpdx when they are driving like an idiot).
 
KeithTalent

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CycloWizard said:
You really are illiterate. You can't get past his first sentence, even though I quoted the part of his post I was directly referencing. He said to me, "You should never need to go faster than 55." "You" is the second person pronoun. Thus, he was referring to me, telling me never to drive over 55 mph. In the context of his post, and since "you" is also the plural form of the second person pronoun, he was stating this to everyone, not just me. But that's only if you can read and understand the English language. I drive as fast as it is safe to do so rather than strictly following speed limits designed to generate revenue rather than what is safe. I've never been in an accident when I was driving, at fault or otherwise, because I drive defensively (other than perhaps some of the gestures I give to idiots like Scholzpdx when they are driving like an idiot).
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You keep posting, but you only cling to one sentence from the very beginning of the thread when multiple post from that poster have followed outlining exactly what he means.

Yeah, I'm the illiterate one. :D

KT
 
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CycloWizard

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KeithTalent said:
You keep posting, but you only cling to one sentence from the very beginning of the thread when multiple post from that poster have followed outlining exactly what he means.

Yeah, I'm the illiterate one. :D

KT
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I already addressed his other posts, which in no way changed the meaning of the post we were discussing. You're a mouth breathing idiot. Good day sir.
 
KeithTalent

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CycloWizard said:
I already addressed his other posts, which in no way changed the meaning of the post we were discussing. You're a mouth breathing idiot. Good day sir.
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They most certainly did, I'm sorry you did not understand them.

Drive safely.

KT
 
ussfletcher

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Due to advances in automotive technology, there is no reason why the speed limit should not be upped to ~100 mph.
 
TecHNooB

TecHNooB

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ShawnD1 said:
There's no need to yell at the other driver. If I'm in a bigger truck and their car is completely ruined, then that's enough to satisfy me.

Also, it's remarkably easy to write a car off. Some piece of shit ran a stop sign and t-boned my Honda Civic. It didn't look that bad, but apparently it bent the frame and a few other key parts of the car, and the estimated cost to replace just the airbags was thousands of dollars. The insurance company gave me $15,000 because that was the blue book value of the car. Pretty much anything you do to a cheap car will be a write off. A heavy Ford F150 hitting something like a 1 year old Dodge Neon at a sharp angle (because he sharply cuts in front of you) is easily enough to bend the frame, destroy the door assembly, and write off the car. Damage to the F150 might be $15 - the cost of paint to cover the scratch on the bumper.

Seeing a car rear end a bus was pretty funny. Car was completely mangled and the guy in the car had to be taken away in an ambulance. I was on the bus at the time, and I didn't even realize we were hit by a car. There was a gentle thump and the bus driver tells everyone to get off the bus and catch the next one.
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Maybe not yelling, but you will be forced to talk over the situation with the other driver unless you plan on just driving off (very slowly). I'm not against your stance, but I do think it will be a hassle to maintain that stance in a real situation.
 
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Ninjahedge

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ussfletcher said:
Due to advances in automotive technology, there is no reason why the speed limit should not be upped to ~100 mph.
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Yes there is.

1. Fuel efficiency still depends on this
2. The roads, entry ways and acceleration lanes were not desined for that. You would not be able to tromp on the brakes fast enough to go from 100 to 50 when someone pulls out in front of you.
3. Variable conditions. Rain and snow effect different vehicles differently (although they all have the same SCALE of problems when it comes to things like STOPPING. Just look at teh spun out SUV's on a snowy day and you will see what I mean). You push the limits and you have no real envelope of safety.

The only place this works is on roadways that are rated for that speed AND that are monitored to make sure everyone is GOING that speed.....
 
sactoking

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ussfletcher said:
Due to advances in automotive technology, there is no reason why the speed limit should not be upped to ~100 mph.
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rain
snow
ice
wind
tight turns
construction
The fact that a vehicle going 100 instead of 65 (a 53.8% increase in velocity) carries 236.7% as much kinetic (and death dealing) energy

Yup, no reason at all.
 
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speedy2

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I think the 100MPH post would apply only to limited access highways(interstates.) Other than that, yeah 100 would be stupid.
 
Cogman

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sactoking said:
rain
snow
ice
wind
tight turns
construction
The fact that a vehicle going 100 instead of 65 (a 53.8% increase in velocity) carries 236.7% as much kinetic (and death dealing) energy

Yup, no reason at all.
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You kind of phrased that weird. It has 136.7% more kinetic energy and is 236.7% of the initial kinetic energy.
 
sactoking

sactoking

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Cogman said:
You kind of phrased that weird. It has 136.7% more kinetic energy and is 236.7% of the initial kinetic energy.
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Yeah, I probably should have used the same tense when quoting the velocity and kinetic energy and not used one relativistic and one absolute.
 
Deeko

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I find it amusing that so many of you left lane campers defend your crime by saying things like "ha you don't have the right to speed, I don't have to move for you, etc". You do realize that in many states - you are just as much in the wrong as a speeder? That camping in the left lane is illegal? If you want to break the law and camp in the left lane, I guess that's your decision, but to get high-and-mighty about how you don't have to move because speeding is illegal is both incredible asinine and embarrassingly hypocritical.
 
InflatableBuddha

InflatableBuddha

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sactoking said:
rain
snow
ice
wind
tight turns
construction
The fact that a vehicle going 100 instead of 65 (a 53.8% increase in velocity) carries 236.7% as much kinetic (and death dealing) energy

Yup, no reason at all.
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This.

Higher speed limits can work in countries like Germany, where the freeways are designed for higher speeds, vehicles are required to be maintained better than in North America, and drivers are more skilled and better educated.

But you still can't drive that fast in adverse weather conditions, like sactoking mentions.
 
KeithTalent

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Deeko said:
I find it amusing that so many of you left lane campers defend your crime by saying things like "ha you don't have the right to speed, I don't have to move for you, etc". You do realize that in many states - you are just as much in the wrong as a speeder? That camping in the left lane is illegal? If you want to break the law and camp in the left lane, I guess that's your decision, but to get high-and-mighty about how you don't have to move because speeding is illegal is both incredible asinine and embarrassingly hypocritical.
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Who the hell is camping in the left lane?

KT
 
TurtleCrusher

TurtleCrusher

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Deeko said:
I find it amusing that so many of you left lane campers defend your crime by saying things like "ha you don't have the right to speed, I don't have to move for you, etc". You do realize that in many states - you are just as much in the wrong as a speeder? That camping in the left lane is illegal? If you want to break the law and camp in the left lane, I guess that's your decision, but to get high-and-mighty about how you don't have to move because speeding is illegal is both incredible asinine and embarrassingly hypocritical.
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Nobody has been talking about left lane camping. Even though I go the speed limit I am typically always in the right lane. I'll let you dumbasses in the left lane get caught speeding. It happens all the time on a stretch of I-5 when I was working. People got pulled over left and right around me for going 5-10 over. Never me.

If you are going the speed limit you can legally use any lane. Anyone tailgating or people who decide to rear end you are guilty EVERY TIME. Tell me of a case where someone was ticketed for going the speed limit and using the left lane? What was the charge? A citation for abiding by the law?

All of your "flow of traffic" arguments are nonsense. Just a poor attempt at justifying your lawlessness.
 
bruceb

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Police can, if they desire, give you a ticket for "obstructing traffic" or "failure to keep right" in most states. It is not done often, but they can if they want to. And I have seen roads, like the Long Island Expressway (Eastbound around Exit 49 Rt110) where there is a Minimum Speed 40MPH sign posted.
 
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