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For Those Who Say "Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams"

There have been multiple demonstrations that it's more than just possible. Discovery channel comes to mind.
Still won't convince, people who seem to need conspiracy in their lives, because they can't stand their own lives and need to live in delusion. They'd have to work out their own problems otherwise, and that's like death for many people.
 
I think some arguments would be that the impact and resulting fireball would have burned up most of the fuel. If not, how did the fuel magically seep onto and cover the steel beams all the way to the bottom floors where the buildings began to crumble and collapse? Then there is the matter that heat rises. It doesnt move downward. At the impact areas and where the heat was greatest, the steel beams would have begun to collapse from there. Again, how did the buildings crumble and collapse starting from the lowest floors where there were no signs of fire?

I think the matter raised that steel beams only melt at certain temps is a red herring. There are too many other issues with bigger question marks.
 
amenx said:
I think some arguments would be that the impact and resulting fireball would have burned up most of the fuel. If not, how did the fuel magically seep onto and cover the steel beams all the way to the bottom floors where the buildings began to crumble and collapse? Then there is the matter that hear rises. It doesnt move downward. At the impact areas and where the heat was greatest, the steel beams would have begun to collapse from there. Again, how did the buildings crumble and collapse starting from the lowest floors where there were no signs of fire?

I think the matter raised that steel beams only melt at certain temps is a red herring. There are too many other issues with bigger question marks.
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Just stop.
 
amenx said:
I think some arguments would be that the impact and resulting fireball would have burned up most of the fuel. If not, how did the fuel magically seep onto and cover the steel beams all the way to the bottom floors where the buildings began to crumble and collapse? Then there is the matter that heat rises. It doesnt move downward. At the impact areas and where the heat was greatest, the steel beams would have begun to collapse from there. Again, how did the buildings crumble and collapse starting from the lowest floors where there were no signs of fire?

I think the matter raised that steel beams only melt at certain temps is a red herring. There are too many other issues with bigger question marks.
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Fuck you’re an idiot.
 
Jaskalas said:
I'll take "What is an earthquake?" for 100, Alex.
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Not Alex. Literally 1000s of architects and engineers have voiced their opinion on the matter questioning the official findings. Re WTC 7, I guess we have to take Larry Silversteins word on it that they decided to "pull" the building.
 
Goddammit... Can't say I missed these stupid conspiracies.

What's the overlap with 911 truthers, Qanon, 2020 election conspirators, and anti vaxxers?
 
amenx said:
I think some arguments would be that the impact and resulting fireball would have burned up most of the fuel. If not, how did the fuel magically seep onto and cover the steel beams all the way to the bottom floors where the buildings began to crumble and collapse? Then there is the matter that heat rises. It doesnt move downward. At the impact areas and where the heat was greatest, the steel beams would have begun to collapse from there. Again, how did the buildings crumble and collapse starting from the lowest floors where there were no signs of fire?

I think the matter raised that steel beams only melt at certain temps is a red herring. There are too many other issues with bigger question marks.
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amenx said:
Then there is the matter of bldg 7.
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This weak minded moron and his bullshit needs to fuck right off!
 
Fenixgoon said:
You don't necessarily even need to melt the steel. Just raise its temperature to the point where the strength sufficiently degraded.
Not sure why I'm bothering to post tbh
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At this point, even if it was a gubbermint conspiracy, we've proceeded well past that to the point of the gubbermint getting whatever it was they wanted.
 
ch33zw1z said:
The official report summarized by the always partisan popular mechanics (/s):

www.popularmechanics.com

World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest

The long-awaited report from the NIST conclusively rebuts the claims put forth by conspiracy theorists that explosives caused the collapse of WTC 7.
www.popularmechanics.com www.popularmechanics.com
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No mention of WTC owner Larry Silverstein saying the building was "pulled". He is on record saying that.

And btw, not arguing about any US govt conspiracy theory, that is another red herring. In fact, I dont think the US govt had any involvement at all. Just pointing to a few inconvenient details that may lead in a different direction. Silverstein, close confidant of Netanyahu, bought the WTC towers 2 months before the events and insured them for $3 billion. Who knows, maybe nothing to it. Just inconvenient details. The plane that was brought down in Pennsylvania, hmm.. wonder where it was going? ... maybe WTC 7?

Not arguing in favor of any definitive conspiracy theory. Just the matter remains that these are interesting details which fit in perfectly with Netanyahus vision of what could be done in the Mid-east given the 'right circumstances'. Plus, we do have a record of Israel targeting US military (USS Liberty) and other assets (Lavon affair) when they figured it may serve their interests
 
amenx said:
No mention of WTC owner Larry Silverstein saying the building was "pulled". He is on record saying that.

And btw, not arguing about any US govt conspiracy theory, that is another red herring. In fact, I dont think the US govt had any involvement at all. Just pointing to a few inconvenient details that may lead in a different direction. Silverstein, close confidant of Netanyahu, bought the WTC towers 2 months before the events and insured them for $3 billion. Who knows, maybe nothing to it. Just inconvenient details. The plane that was brought down in Pennsylvania, hmm.. wonder where it was going? ... maybe WTC 7?

Not arguing in favor of any definitive conspiracy theory. Just the matter remains that these are interesting details which fit in perfectly with Netanyahus vision of what could be done in the Mid-east given the 'right circumstances'. Plus, we do have a record of Israel targeting US military (USS Liberty) and other assets (Lavon affair) when they figured it may serve their interests
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Oh fuck the Jews did it!

seriously go fuck yourself
 
balloonshark said:
I've done some research and read jet fuel kills covid-19 in vitro. It's something big pharma doesn't want you to know. 😉
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It’s especially effective when poured on the body and ignited. In a few minutes all the COVID in your body is destroyed never to return. 100% COVID free and nothing to ever fear in life again!
 
brycejones said:
Oh fuck the Jews did it!

seriously go fuck yourself
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Oh fuck off with your antisemitism card. Israeli govt or military malfeasance has nothing to do with them being Jews. And you stupidly highlighted established facts that you probably know jack shit about. 😛
 
amenx said:
I think some arguments would be that the impact and resulting fireball would have burned up most of the fuel. If not, how did the fuel magically seep onto and cover the steel beams all the way to the bottom floors where the buildings began to crumble and collapse? Then there is the matter that heat rises. It doesnt move downward. At the impact areas and where the heat was greatest, the steel beams would have begun to collapse from there. Again, how did the buildings crumble and collapse starting from the lowest floors where there were no signs of fire?

I think the matter raised that steel beams only melt at certain temps is a red herring. There are too many other issues with bigger question marks.
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The buildings didn't colipase from the bottom up, the lower floors were clearly intact as the top floors pancaked.
When the structural integrity of a building is impaired by an aircraft crashing into it, then weakened further by fire, collapse isn't a surprising result.
Clearly you won't be swayed by facts in the face of higher truth (what you want to believe), but at least consider the obvious visual evidence before stating fabrications.
 
Greenman said:
The buildings didn't colipase from the bottom up, the lower floors were clearly intact as the top floors pancaked.
When the structural integrity of a building is impaired by an aircraft crashing into it, then weakened further by fire, collapse isn't a surprising result.
Clearly you won't be swayed by facts in the face of higher truth (what you want to believe), but at least consider the obvious visual evidence before stating fabrications.
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I am quoting this so everyone gets an opportunity to like it twice.
See what @Greenman said above
 
Greenman said:
The buildings didn't colipase from the bottom up, the lower floors were clearly intact as the top floors pancaked.
When the structural integrity of a building is impaired by an aircraft crashing into it, then weakened further by fire, collapse isn't a surprising result.
Clearly you won't be swayed by facts in the face of higher truth (what you want to believe), but at least consider the obvious visual evidence before stating fabrications.
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Apologies, my mistake re where the collapse began. But doesnt change the fact the official report is still at odds with 1000s of architects and engineers who do not agree with the NIST findings and challenge them to this day. Pancake theory or not, the inconvenient little detail that the owner of WTC 7 said the building was "pulled" remains.
 
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amenx said:
Oh fuck off with your antisemitism card. Israeli govt or military malfeasance has nothing to do with them being Jews. And you stupidly highlighted established facts that you probably know jack shit about. 😛
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Why do people like you need to fill your brains with conspiracy garbage bullshit? What the fuck happened in your life to cause you to become so stupid and broken by choice? Did mommy not love you enough? Did daddy beat you? Did your uncle butt rape you? Were you too high on the day critical thinking was taught in school? Did you suffer a traumatic brain injury as a child? Were you just born stupid? Are you just choosing to be a big cuckhold that you enjoy the abuse your handlers inflict upon you? Like seriously explain why the fuck you refuse to accept reality and choose to embrace the fantastical fiction?

Seriously fuck you and your bullshit!
 
VW MAN said:
Why do people like you need to fill your brains with conspiracy garbage bullshit? What the fuck happened in your life to cause you to become so stupid and broken by choice? Did mommy not love you enough? Did daddy beat you? Did your uncle butt rape you? Were you too high on the day critical thinking was taught in school? Did you suffer a traumatic brain injury as a child? Were you just born stupid? Are you just choosing to be a big cuckhold that you enjoy the abuse your handlers inflict upon you? Like seriously explain why the fuck you refuse to accept reality and choose to embrace the fantastical fiction?

Seriously fuck you and your bullshit!
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Thanks. Thats probably what I would have written when I was 14 years old.
 
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