It's funny that you say that. I always lifted heavy, but I hated cardio so I didn't do it. Just last year I started seriously getting into cardio and it helped me a lot.
It's funny that you say that. I always lifted heavy, but I hated cardio so I didn't do it. Just last year I started seriously getting into cardio and it helped me a lot.
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I hav'nt tried it but kidney beans and brown rice are supposed to have all the protien one needs. But I'm sure protien shakes would be a nice supplement. Maybe take twice what's recommended and do power moves.. eg power cleans.. squats... dead lifts..stay away from the small movements which I think are tendon builders more than anything.
Do a google search on Dr. Daniel B. Mowrey.
It seems he likes to attach his credentials to products that make flamboyant claims.
He also has his name attached to a "Better than Botox!" cream. ("the anti-wrinkle breakthrough of the decade!")
Also he advertises "Leptoprin - Anorex" which is supposed to combat Obesity... (another "extraordinary" and "much to powerful" breakthrough)
He wrote a couple books on "tonic herbs" and "super herbs" remedies
He probably get's good money attaching his name to junk and throwing out a few quotes.
All this makes the product highly suspect and a list of ingredients aren't listed.
I agree with the other posts as in this is a waste of money.
It seems he likes to attach his credentials to products that make flamboyant claims.
He also has his name attached to a "Better than Botox!" cream. ("the anti-wrinkle breakthrough of the decade!")
Also he advertises "Leptoprin - Anorex" which is supposed to combat Obesity... (another "extraordinary" and "much to powerful" breakthrough)
He wrote a couple books on "tonic herbs" and "super herbs" remedies
He probably get's good money attaching his name to junk and throwing out a few quotes.
All this makes the product highly suspect and a list of ingredients aren't listed.
I agree with the other posts as in this is a waste of money.
This is a scam. Its tomato juice made to look like a suppliment. IIRC doesn't Creatine add a lot of water to your body?
Vegetarians can put on a lot of muscle, as long as they get adequate protein. Take a look at Mike Mahler, a long-term vegan
I also know several people in real life who are all-natural vegetarian bodybuilders (amateur). They have no problem.Thanks for clarifying the PhD comment. I'm *hopefully* near finishing one in molecular toxicology and was surprised to see someone knock it... but its true that the degree is thrown around to make flakes seem like they know what they're talking about. This guy isn't just a flake - he's propagating complete misinformation.
After reading the 'research' outline (which is a joke in itself because it hasn't been published in a peer-reviewed journal... not even a crappy one), its pretty clear to me that this is a joke. The premise of the article was that the drug acts on a specific receptor, causing more of the receptor to be created. In almot every aspect of biology, the opposite is true. Consider needing more of something after using it to get the desired effect - same principle. Recoptors are virtually always downregulated when overstimulated, leading to a decreased effect.
Here's the clincher: he mentions that taking this drug will recruit progenitor cells into the damaged muscle, which then differentiate into muscle cells and building muscle mass. In case anyone is wondering, progenitor cells are stem cells. Stem cells do not migrate into muscle and become muscle cells when you work out. As anyone who lifts should know, increases in muscle mass are the result of an increase in the size of single muscle cells - not an increase in the cell number. His statement is completely false.
I would never consider this supplement.
Why not track what you are eating for a few days and see what ratio of protein/fat/carbs you get and the total number of calories? What you describe above is not really that healthy, at least its not clean foods, so maybe working on your diet will make a huge difference
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I used to have a BS artist checklist of fourty points..here are some they're hitting on:
1. Emphasis on luxurious lifestyle. Check ( having a nice bod certianly falls into that catagory)
2. No pitfalls no bad news. Check
3. High prices. check.
4. Use of buzz words that depict a degree of ease or exclusivity or certainty or absence of risk. check right off the bat..
"remarkable turn of events, arguably one of the strangest in the history of athletic performance"
"As these cutting-edge trainers began recommending the compound to their competitive clients, they began to receive feedback
"a unique and proven method for muscle size and strength beyond what is acquired through the normal recruitment and differentiation of progenitor muscle cells.
5. Testimonials with incomplete names, with unknowns, without peer review. Check
1. Emphasis on luxurious lifestyle. Check ( having a nice bod certianly falls into that catagory)
2. No pitfalls no bad news. Check
3. High prices. check.
4. Use of buzz words that depict a degree of ease or exclusivity or certainty or absence of risk. check right off the bat..
"remarkable turn of events, arguably one of the strangest in the history of athletic performance"
"As these cutting-edge trainers began recommending the compound to their competitive clients, they began to receive feedback
"a unique and proven method for muscle size and strength beyond what is acquired through the normal recruitment and differentiation of progenitor muscle cells.
5. Testimonials with incomplete names, with unknowns, without peer review. Check
Nice list. Don't forget: Unprofessional looking clinical trial and lack of a list of ingredients or chemical structure.
Yup, you're absolutley right bud. ESPECIALLY the stuff at GNC. Now, they carry good products, but christ, the markup on there stuff is absolutley insane.
Protein and Creatine. That's all you need, and you could probably do without the creatine. I use it because I do see results.
Proper diet and proper exercise is the key.
Or just screw it all and juice your way to being big.
ive heard of it...its BS pretty much, but does work in some cases....not for people that power lift.....
creatine, protein, and arginine are all you need
EDIT: and proper diet, a good lifting workout, and proper form...
creatine, protein, and arginine are all you need
EDIT: and proper diet, a good lifting workout, and proper form...
yeah it can add water to your body, certain types of creatine, and new type called CE-2 does not and it is very quickley absorbed by your body
Dogg
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Yup, you're absolutley right bud. ESPECIALLY the stuff at GNC. Now, they carry good products, but christ, the markup on there stuff is absolutley insane.
Protein and Creatine. That's all you need, and you could probably do without the creatine. I use it because I do see results.
Proper diet and proper exercise is the key.
Or just screw it all and juice your way to being big.
hahaha are you kidding me, the markup on some stuff is below the 10% mark, anystore you go into they will have large markups, its called retail. but to say everything is hugely marked up, is totally incorrect. My margin on alot of the products is next to nile. So please don;t tell me the mark up is insane.
Dogg
i have done decent without supplements. Just eat an 8oz steak, chicken breast or equivalent each day.
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