For all the Christians on here.

[Nik]

When will the madness end?

When will the haters stop hating?

When silly zealots stop telepathically talking to an imaginary zombie jesus in the sky.

 

[FDF12389]

As a agnostic person, these threads just look so pointless, however funny they may be.

 

[amddude]

We're doing this again? Really?

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Maybe by you. I get baptists, mormons, and witnesses. That baptists want to give me a bible, the mormon's want to give me a talking to, and the witnesses want to do whatever the hell they want.

Regardless it is all done in the name of God.

You Christians need to get your act together and unify the faith. It looks bad when you can't even agree on simple things.

so are your cows scared?

 

[FDF12389]

We're doing this again? Really?

Satan is making it happen.

 

[Nik]

We're doing this again? Really?

Yes, you are, again, choosing to post in a religiously conflicted public forum discussion.

 

[sourceninja]

so are your cows scared?

I have no cows. I change my opinions as evidence and information sways my opinions. This is called logic and reasoning. The only faith I have is that given enough time and energy we will always learn more about the universe.

The only truth I know about religion is that it acts as a firewall to help stifle that learning process.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I have no cows. I change my opinions as evidence and information sways my opinions. This is called logic and reasoning. The only faith I have is that given enough time and energy we will always learn more about the universe.

The only truth I know about religion is that it acts as a firewall to help stifle that learning process.

thought you were hindu.

 

[sourceninja]

thought you were hindu.

If I was forced to pick a god, I'd go with Odin.

 

[Kirby]

Christians are all cultists. All.

Nik, you know I'm burning...I'm burning...I'm burning for you.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

If I was forced to pick a god, I'd go with Odin.

so you're just an indian not practicing hinduism.

 

[sourceninja]

so you're just an indian not practicing hinduism.

Yes I am. I'm an american born white indian who's ancestors came from Scotland and England.

 

[Malak]

Christians have an indoctrinated need, an urge, to control everything they see and bend the world around them to fit their agenda.

I need to get my abacus out to count the number of baseless assumptions you play out in this thread, coupled with the irony of you slamming an entire religion for wanting to shove their beliefs down your throat while they you instead are the one insisting on shoving your own beliefs.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Yes I am. I'm an american born white indian who's ancestors came from Scotland and England.

what's a white indian?

 

[sourceninja]

what's a white indian?

A white indian is a person who you think to be indian, but really is a white guy.

 

[zinfamous]

It slowly destroys your immune system leaving you open to opportunistic infections?

:thumbsup:

 

[zinfamous]

I don't think it's fair to say anyone sins as much as anyone else, religious or not. And the Christian belief is actually that nothing we do can save us in eternity, it's only by God's grace.

And I have recently changed my viewpoint on original sin, no longer believing this is the case.

no, that is merely what a sect of Christianity believes. For millions upon millions of other Christians, good deeds and various sacraments are very much essential to earning God's grace.

 

[highland145]

no, that is merely what a sect of Christianity believes. For millions upon millions of other Christians, good deeds and various sacraments are very much essential to earning God's grace.

Well they are having reading comprehension failure, if that's the case.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't think it's stupid at all. I also find it insulting when someone says they will pray for me and have asked my friends if they want to pray for me to keep it to themselves, I don't want to hear about it. I'd prefer they didn't bother with it at all, but that's their choice.

And this...

I don't believe in God, but I don't wish I did either. I respect the fact that you believe in God, but I live a life of rational thought and scientific curiosity that excludes the need for a Creator.

yes, it's illogical to assume that an atheist should "wish to be able to believe in God." that is just ridiculous.

but as an atheist, and adopting the rational notion that prayer does nothing, should it not matter to you that someone chooses to pray for you? It does nothing, so...no harm, no foul, right?

Hell...what if there is some sort of afterlife and despite your beliefs, some random dude praying for you without your knowledge, in an appeal to their god, gives you that opening in death?

I mean...why not, right? It honestly shouldn't affect you...yes, the smugness of "i will pray for your soul" is obnoxious sometimes, but it really amounts to no negative loss, right?

 

[zinfamous]

Well they are having reading comprehension failure, if that's the case.

lol. Why do you dislike and distrust the foundation of your religion?

 

[sourceninja]

I don't think it's fair to say anyone sins as much as anyone else, religious or not. And the Christian belief is actually that nothing we do can save us in eternity, it's only by God's grace.

And I have recently changed my viewpoint on original sin, no longer believing this is the case.

Actually, I can't sin. Sin requires a god.

 

[Nik]

I need to get my abacus out to count the number of baseless assumptions you play out in this thread, coupled with the irony of you slamming an entire religion for wanting to shove their beliefs down your throat while they you instead are the one insisting on shoving your own beliefs.

Show me any proof at all that your god exists. Please.

Baseless claims? I'd say I have an infinitely more credible claim than you do, sir.

 

[highland145]

lol. Why do you dislike and distrust the foundation of your religion?

Scripture is pretty clear, good deeds are just good deeds without belief. They won't "earn" anything on their own.

 

[Cookie]

yes, it's illogical to assume that an atheist should "wish to be able to believe in God." that is just ridiculous.

but as an atheist, and adopting the rational notion that prayer does nothing, should it not matter to you that someone chooses to pray for you? It does nothing, so...no harm, no foul, right?

Hell...what if there is some sort of afterlife and despite your beliefs, some random dude praying for you without your knowledge, in an appeal to their god, gives you that opening in death?

I mean...why not, right? It honestly shouldn't affect you...yes, the smugness of "i will pray for your soul" is obnoxious sometimes, but it really amounts to no negative loss, right?

That is right. I don't care if someone wants to pray for me behind my back. It's their time to waste (or not waste depending on your beliefs). It's the commenting on it that bothers me. It feels condescending, especially after a conversation about religious beliefs. I think it bothers me mostly because it used to happen all the time after my repeated requests to stop. Actually, other than in this thread jokingly, it's been long enough I don't remember the last time someone said they would pray for me.

 

[Malak]

no, that is merely what a sect of Christianity believes. For millions upon millions of other Christians, good deeds and various sacraments are very much essential to earning God's grace.

You have it backwards. It explicitly states in the bible multiple times that nothing can be done to earn salvation. Catholics, on the other hand, believe a lot of things that contradict explicit things in the bible. That's why many call the catholic church a cult and not Christian.