Flu shot: check.

[sourceninja]

What is really funny is my wife just got the flu shot 2 weeks ago. Her doctor recommended it so she didn't it. I laughed and she said asked why. I told her, you will see. Three days later she told me she got the joke. She was down on the couch for about a week with chills, weakness, fever, and 'flu like symptoms'.

Which is my I can't get the flu shot, it's horrible. It's also what about everyone I know who gets the shot hates most about it. It's like getting the flu for a week.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

see.. ive never had this problem. i even got "the mist" instead of a regular shot this year. i had a bit of a scratchy throat the next day, but that was it.

 

[Anarchist420]

The Swine Flu shot of the 70s was more deadly than the disease that never came. These vaccine companies pray on the ignorance of people, and they ask the government to spread proganda (i.e., lies), so people will fall for it and enrich Big Pharma. The government promoting the vaccines is a good enough reason not to get them. I quit getting them like 5 years ago and I haven't had the flu since. The first polio vaccine gave you polio FFS, and the reason people quit getting polio was because there are now less metals in foods, which was in spite of the FDA, not because of it.

I mean, the name "flu shot" is a dead giveaway. They'd call it the "anti-influenza vaccine" if it was anti-viral. God made the earth, gave us self-ownership, and all the good things that come with it. That said, we don't need antinatural mercantilist (i.e., patented) shit that's full of metals and dung.

 

[artvscommerce]

The Swine Flu shot of the 70s was more deadly than the disease that never came. These vaccine companies pray on the ignorance of people, and they ask the government to spread proganda (i.e., lies), so people will fall for it and enrich Big Pharma. The government promoting the vaccines is a good enough reason not to get them. I quit getting them like 5 years ago and I haven't had the flu since. The first polio vaccine gave you polio FFS, and the reason people quit getting polio was because there are now less metals in foods, which was in spite of the FDA, not because of it.

I mean, the name "flu shot" is a dead giveaway. They'd call it the "anti-influenza vaccine" if it was anti-viral. God made the earth, gave us self-ownership, and all the good things that come with it. That said, we don't need antinatural mercantilist (i.e., patented) shit that's full of metals and dung.

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nearly everything in your post is factually inaccurate. please just humor me and do a tiny bit of research into what you're claiming.

 

[ShawnD1]

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nearly everything in your post is factually inaccurate. please just humor me and do a tiny bit of research into what you're claiming.

If you visit P&N, you'll notice he's probably the forum's #1 troll. Every thread somehow references president Harding and a few other presidents nobody has ever heard of.

 

[Capt Caveman]

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nearly everything in your post is factually inaccurate. please just humor me and do a tiny bit of research into what you're claiming.

He's a retard, read any of the threads he's created in any forum here.

 

[waggy]

WAIT! if i get the flu shot i will be a corvette?

 

[SunnyD]

With 6+ billion people in the world you're going to have some outliers. Heck, my daughter dropped her temp to 96 degrees and went into seizures the day after getting her 1 year vaccinations. That earned her three days of neuro observation, 6 months worth of kepra and a half dozen EEG's. Neurologist thinks it was a reaction to the varicella (chickenpox) vaccine. She's 3.5 and has no long term effects at this point but it was freaky. But there are millions of other kids that get it every year without issue. That's just the thing with vaccines...it's a numbers game and usually the numbers are in most of our favor.

Good 'ole "The Needs of the Many..." philosophy there.

Anyway, did they ever determine the cause? Was it the viral payload or some sort of chemical in the suspension, or was that undetermined and they sent you on your merry way saying "Thanks for all the doctor's bills! We appreciate your business!!!"

 

[Anarchist420]

If you visit P&N, you'll notice he's probably the forum's #1 troll. Every thread somehow references president Harding and a few other presidents nobody has ever heard of.

They don't like him because he proves them wrong without sharing their views. FDR proves them wrong too, but FDR shared their views. Warren G. Harding did nearly everything in his power to stop people from living in a military state. I'm not saying he was perfect, but he was our last good President for sure and the only good one the entire 20th Century saw.

 

[Fausto]

Lol, you guys are hilarious.

 

[vi edit]

Good 'ole "The Needs of the Many..." philosophy there.

Anyway, did they ever determine the cause? Was it the viral payload or some sort of chemical in the suspension, or was that undetermined and they sent you on your merry way saying "Thanks for all the doctor's bills! We appreciate your business!!!"

They don't think that it was the Chicken pox itself, rather it's combination with the MMR that did it. It's something on the radar...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-06-28-vaccines28_st_N.htm

Future suggestions are to not have them combined. But frankly I think the chicken pox vaccine is bullshit and is certainly one of those things you should get your exposure to as a kid and get it over with.

Yes I understand that in some rare cases even having exposure isn't enough to build an immunity...but who's to say the vaccine won't have the same issue. Anywhoo...it's one vaccine that I think is rather unnecessary and taking a step backwards. But I don't go so far as having Jenny McCarthy nuttery about them and won't grandstand and try to convince others to avoid them.

 

[artvscommerce]

They don't think that it was the Chicken pox itself, rather it's combination with the MMR that did it. It's something on the radar...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-06-28-vaccines28_st_N.htm

Future suggestions are to not have them combined. But frankly I think the chicken pox vaccine is bullshit and is certainly one of those things you should get your exposure to as a kid and get it over with.

Yes I understand that in some rare cases even having exposure isn't enough to build an immunity...but who's to say the vaccine won't have the same issue. Anywhoo...it's one vaccine that I think is rather unnecessary and taking a step backwards. But I don't go so far as having Jenny McCarthy nuttery about them and won't grandstand and try to convince others to avoid them.

Since you mentioned Jenny McCarthy I thought I would share this link:

http://jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html

 

[SunnyD]

They don't think that it was the Chicken pox itself, rather it's combination with the MMR that did it. It's something on the radar...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-06-28-vaccines28_st_N.htm

Future suggestions are to not have them combined. But frankly I think the chicken pox vaccine is bullshit and is certainly one of those things you should get your exposure to as a kid and get it over with.

Yes I understand that in some rare cases even having exposure isn't enough to build an immunity...but who's to say the vaccine won't have the same issue. Anywhoo...it's one vaccine that I think is rather unnecessary and taking a step backwards. But I don't go so far as having Jenny McCarthy nuttery about them and won't grandstand and try to convince others to avoid them.

I can tell you for a fact that the vaccine does not guarantee to convey immunity. My three older kids were all vaccinated for chicken pox as youngin's, and two out of the three both came down with cases of the chicken pox a few years ago (around age 7/9 at the time).

But you hit on the problem my wife and I have with the current vaccination schedules. The fact that they load between 5 and 7 different vaccines into a baby all at the same time, we think it's far too much to handle at any given time for an infant. And particularly some of the vaccines they push - like chicken pox - they're simply not necessary.

My kids will ALL get vaccines as they get older, but only the ones we feel are critical - such as polio and whatnot. If as they get older they feel they need other vaccines for whatever reason, they're old enough to make that choice on their own. But a flu shot? Definitely not necessary unless you are/work with high risk people.

 

[Born2bwire]

Suddenly have the urge to get a flu vaccine to spite all the ignant asses on thread.

I don't remember getting the flu vaccine before but fuck that. I'm going by the clinic this week to get one for the same reasons too.

Schadenfreude + Born2bwire <-- Vaccine Buddies :awe:

 

[vi edit]

I don't remember getting the flu vaccine before but fuck that. I'm going by the clinic this week to get one for the same reasons too.

Schadenfreude + Born2bwire <-- Vaccine Buddies :awe:

Got mine yesterday D:

 

[Fausto]

Got mine yesterday D:

vi_edit + Fausto = autism buddies!

 

[Beev]

Can I speed up the immunity building process by getting a flu shot once a month?

 

[Fausto]

Can I speed up the immunity building process by getting a flu shot once a month?

Yes. I would also suggest licking toilets and having unprotected sex with gay, IV-drug-using craigslist hookers. It'll be like sending your immune system to BUD/s

 

[Born2bwire]

Got mine yesterday D:

Aw, but vi edit, you're already everybody's Buddy Christ.

 

[JTsyo]

Got my shot this morning, still alive.

 

[DrPizza]

*sigh* stupidity isn't a bannable offense. Why couldn't *I* write the rules?

 

[ichy]

I decided the best course of action was to do the exact opposite of what Anarchist420 recommends. I got a flu shot today.

 

[jhansman]

Flu shots are just a communist plot to get us all 'sheepified.' What they're really using is Soma. Now, where is that TV remote...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I can tell you for a fact that the vaccine does not guarantee to convey immunity. My three older kids were all vaccinated for chicken pox as youngin's, and two out of the three both came down with cases of the chicken pox a few years ago (around age 7/9 at the time).

But you hit on the problem my wife and I have with the current vaccination schedules. The fact that they load between 5 and 7 different vaccines into a baby all at the same time, we think it's far too much to handle at any given time for an infant. And particularly some of the vaccines they push - like chicken pox - they're simply not necessary.

My kids will ALL get vaccines as they get older, but only the ones we feel are critical - such as polio and whatnot. If as they get older they feel they need other vaccines for whatever reason, they're old enough to make that choice on their own. But a flu shot? Definitely not necessary unless you are/work with high risk people.

No vaccine is 100&#37; effective. Reading from wiki, the chicken pox vaccine is 70-90% effective normally, and 95% effective against severe chicken pox. Some kids simply don't produce enough protection with the vaccine and can get mildly sick when exposed to the genuine disease in public, but of course the vaccine reduces the severity of that.

There have been no deaths attributed to the vaccine. And in the year after it was introduced cases of chicken pox decreased 80% and deaths caused by chicken pox decreased by over 60% in the US, with the 1-4 year old range mortality due to the pox decreasing by 90%.

I think the chicken pox vaccine did some good. Also, the fears that a baby is taking too many vaccines at once is groundless and contradictory to evidence and many experiments which have shown that there is no such thing as vaccine overload

 

[DrPizza]

No vaccine is 100% effective. Reading from wiki, the chicken pox vaccine is 70-90% effective normally, and 95% effective against severe chicken pox. Some kids simply don't produce enough protection with the vaccine and can get mildly sick when exposed to the genuine disease in public, but of course the vaccine reduces the severity of that.

There have been no deaths attributed to the vaccine. And in the year after it was introduced cases of chicken pox decreased 80% and deaths caused by chicken pox decreased by over 60% in the US, with the 1-4 year old range mortality due to the pox decreasing by 90%.

I think the chicken pox vaccine did some good. Also, the fears that a baby is taking too many vaccines at once is groundless and contradictory to evidence and many experiments which have shown that there is no such thing as vaccine overload

Not only does the vaccine reduce the severity, but the fact that it's effective in 70-90% of the people means that the likelihood of coming into contact with someone who is sick is vastly lower, therefore greatly reducing someone's risk of being exposed if the vaccine doesn't work