Florida shooting - tired of hearing about it

[BUTCH1]

I'm sick of the racism angle. Nobody knows if the shooter was racist. He was half hispanic / half Jewish so I doubt he's a card carrying KKK member. It was most likely a bad shoot but turning this into a big racial thing is BS. I don't get where this is coming from.

Also, if you wear a hoodie you look like a thug. Where do you think the term hood comes from? Does not matter if you're black, white, Asian, or Arab. All his "hoodie solidarity" stuff is laughable.

Maybe because it's a sweatshirt that features a hood that can pulled up? I live 40 miles from Sanford, it was raining on and off for 2 days which the shooting took place, brief downpours then some slack, typical FL rain. It looks like TM ducked under a common mail are to escape a downpour which made him look more suspicious to GZ I suppose..

 

[dwell]

Yeah if it were raining that's one thing...

 

[shortylickens]

Not mad any more.

 

[CZroe]

People saying that they can't possibly see how this could be self defense without Treyvon having a weapon are either dishonest or have no imagination.

"Shit. Some crazy white dude is following me. Hold on, baby, I'll call you back.
[just like Jeffery Lebowski confronting the P.I. following him in The Big Lebowski]
Get out of the car! [Bangs] Get the FUCK out of the car!"
Except instead of getting to the "Why are you following me?! Huh?! Why the fuck are you following me?" part, the guy in the car assumes he's being carjacked, attacked, or whatever. Remember the mini scuffle The Dude had with the P.I. when he got out? Imagine it escalating into "shots fired."

Not a stretch AT ALL. People get angry when they are followed. In fact, I had a coworker saying the "I don't see how..." line despite the fact that we had just had an incident where another coworker's ride followed him on his way home and he pulled over, freaked out, ran, and called the cops. He was furious and now that person is banned from the job site (still no idea why he was following my coworker).

 

[mrCide]

People saying that they can't possibly see how this could be self defense without Treyvon having a weapon are either dishonest or have no imagination.

"Shit. Some crazy white dude is following me. Hold on, baby, I'll call you back.
[just like Jeffery Lebowski confronting the P.I. following him in The Big Lebowski]
Get out of the car! [Bangs] Get the FUCK out of the car!"
Except instead of getting to the "Why are you following me?! Huh?! Why the fuck are you following me?" part, the guy in the car assumes he's being carjacked, attacked, or whatever. Remember the mini scuffle The Dude had with the P.I. when he got out? Imagine it escalating into "shots fired."

Not a stretch AT ALL. People get angry when they are followed. In fact, I had a coworker saying the "I don't see how..." line despite the fact that we had just had an incident where another coworker's ride followed him on his way home and he pulled over, freaked out, ran, and called the cops. He was furious and now that person is banned from the job site (still no idea why he was following my coworker).

self defense is out the window when you're the one instigating..

 

[0roo0roo]

Bit tired of them showing black people claiming this shows the country is racist even though they elected obama, talk about trying to create backlash. Its one freakshow, deal with it, jesse jackson and the rest just jumping on the bandwagon really just make a circus out of it. its like some people were looking for any reason to play the race card again.

 

[Capt Caveman]

People saying that they can't possibly see how this could be self defense without Treyvon having a weapon are either dishonest or have no imagination.

"Shit. Some crazy white dude is following me. Hold on, baby, I'll call you back.
[just like Jeffery Lebowski confronting the P.I. following him in The Big Lebowski]
Get out of the car! [Bangs] Get the FUCK out of the car!"
Except instead of getting to the "Why are you following me?! Huh?! Why the fuck are you following me?" part, the guy in the car assumes he's being carjacked, attacked, or whatever. Remember the mini scuffle The Dude had with the P.I. when he got out? Imagine it escalating into "shots fired."

Not a stretch AT ALL. People get angry when they are followed. In fact, I had a coworker saying the "I don't see how..." line despite the fact that we had just had an incident where another coworker's ride followed him on his way home and he pulled over, freaked out, ran, and called the cops. He was furious and now that person is banned from the job site (still no idea why he was following my coworker).

Except we have the Zimmerman's 911 call where he says that Martin runs after noticing that he's being followed and Zimmerman gets out of the car to pursue Martin.

The two lawmakers of the SYG bill have both stated that Zimmerman lost his right to use self-defense when he became the pursuer and should be arrested.

 

[alkemyst]

Except we have the Zimmerman's 911 call where he says that Martin runs after noticing that he's being followed and Zimmerman gets out of the car to pursue Martin.

The two lawmakers of the SYG bill have both stated that Zimmerman lost his right to use self-defense when he became the pursuer and should be arrested.

and prior to that acting like he had a 'gat' under his belt.

Lawmakers look for profits in times like these sadly

 

[Sinsear]

The minute Al Sharpton gets involved with anything is the minute the issue loses any legitimacy.

I'm gonna have to agree.

 

[Corporate Thug]

I'm sick of the racism angle. Nobody knows if the shooter was racist. He was half hispanic / half Jewish so I doubt he's a card carrying KKK member. It was most likely a bad shoot but turning this into a big racial thing is BS. I don't get where this is coming from.

Also, if you wear a hoodie you look like a thug. Where do you think the term hood comes from? Does not matter if you're black, white, Asian, or Arab. All his "hoodie solidarity" stuff is laughable.

LOL, if that's his defense, this is going to be the fastest guilty in the history of criminal cases. "I shot him cuz, you know, his hoody made him look like a thug."

I also see a lot of middle aged thugs in the park in the weekends when the temps go a little lower...glad I can identify them as thugs cuz of their hoodies. Otherwise, I'd be in trouble.

 

[0roo0roo]

Could somebody please find me a picture of this 6'3" 17 year old?

All I can find are pictures of a 12 year old kid, stating he is 140lbs, but not one photo of a 17 year old 6'3" young man.

Yeah, I'm mad. grrr.

done, i think this is another case of journalistic fail on the part of the media...

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer

not the picture they want to show is it😛

 

[woodie1]

Bit tired of them showing black people claiming this shows the country is racist even though they elected obama, talk about trying to create backlash. Its one freakshow, deal with it, jesse jackson and the rest just jumping on the bandwagon really just make a circus out of it. its like some people were looking for any reason to play the race card again.

Could not have said it better.

+1

 

[allenk09]

I'm sick of this too. I wonder what they're trying to cover up or get across. If any other black kid got shot nobody would care on a nationwide media coverage level. It happens every day like 50 times and I never see it on national media and all over facebook.

Sure the kid probably didn't deserve it, but it's getting old and annoying. I think it's a social networking experiment.

 

[CZroe]

self defense is out the window when you're the one instigating..

Did you read what I wrote? How would the person in the car be "instigating?" That's the problem with assumptions. No one considers a scenario WITHOUT their assumption. Zimmerman was attacked before he shot. The instigator is the attacker. It certainly provoked Treyvon but there was nothing wrong with Zimmerman following him. If he had some official "Neighborhood Watch" logo on his car then it would be less likely to provoke, but that's not relevant. The instigator is whoever attacked first and ALL indications are that it was Treyvon.

 

[CZroe]

Except we have the Zimmerman's 911 call where he says that Martin runs after noticing that he's being followed and Zimmerman gets out of the car to pursue Martin.

The two lawmakers of the SYG bill have both stated that Zimmerman lost his right to use self-defense when he became the pursuer and should be arrested.

We don't know what happened after the 911 call. People assumed that he continued when the tables very well may have turned. "We told him not to and now someone is dead. He must not have listened to us." = No imagination.

 

[mrCide]

Did you read what I wrote? How would the person in the car be "instigating?" That's the problem with assumptions. No one considers a scenario WITHOUT their assumption. Zimmerman was attacked before he shot. The instigator is the attacker. It certainly provoked Treyvon but there was nothing wrong with Zimmerman following him. If he had some official "Neighborhood Watch" logo on his car then it would be less likely to provoke, but that's not relevant. The instigator is whoever attacked first and ALL indications are that it was Treyvon.

You are incorrect. He was following him, called the police, and continued following after the police told him to back off. There's no doubt in my mind he instigated the situation, and that's what all the evidence points to. There is just no situation where he is justified in his instigation and follow-up of murder. I don't care how black the kid is or how rude he was being. I don't care if the kid ran up to the car and started shouting racist slurs or started kicking his car. Did he get out of his car to say something? Instigating either way.

The guy is twice his size and carrying a gun, and was told to back off by the cops. Now an unarmed kid is dead because of his fuck up. Self defense? No, not even close.

 

[OverVolt]

I like how the witness proves Treyvon was attacking the guy following him. All the "this is racist" crowd should have their foot in their mouth but they are too stupid to even notice. The cops let it go for a reason not just because they were all white and highfived each other.

The black community is making themselves look like morons. Credibility doesn't matter to them though which is why they don't care.

 

[OverVolt]

Except we have the Zimmerman's 911 call where he says that Martin runs after noticing that he's being followed and Zimmerman gets out of the car to pursue Martin.

The two lawmakers of the SYG bill have both stated that Zimmerman lost his right to use self-defense when he became the pursuer and should be arrested.

If that is what happened then I agree but I don't think that is what happened.

 

[sdifox]

I really don't see how following someone in your car, call 911 repeatedly and be asked to stop doing that, get out of your car, fight with the dude and then somehow shoot the dude can be self defence. I don't know if he is guilty or not but I think there is enough to charge him with manslaughter.

edit : I can think of one possibility and that is the DA thinks there isn't enough evidence to make the charge stick. Again, pure speculation on my part.

 

[alien42]

The black community is making themselves look like morons. Credibility doesn't matter to them though which is why they don't care.

when is your next klan meeting?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

You have to run down a kid when he's running away so that he can pull his fake-gat on you... but then you have to shoot him before he ghetto stomps you to death, even though you need absolutely no need for medical attention.

You know the hidden-gat ghetto stomps are coming, you KNOW they are coming why?

"cause your a paranoid racist nut-bag.



oh

thanks for the OT thread on this shit OP. Love the Icon, keep it classy.

 

[OverVolt]

when is your next klan meeting?

They didn't charge him for a reason. The longer this goes on the more they look like morons.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-friend-idUSBRE82O0FE20120325

versus

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-10g-capture-trayvon-killer-article-1.1050370

They have exactly zero credibility.

And...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zim...artin-incident/story?id=15999256#.T3B6yWEgefg

Attorney Craig Sonner said the public is only hearing part of the story, and when all the facts come out, it will be clear that Zimmerman acted in self defense. A grand jury is scheduled to begin hearing the case April 10.

"George Zimmerman suffered a broken nose, and had an injury to the back of his head, he was attacked by Trayvon Martin on that evening," Sonner said. "This was a case of self defense."

It was probably a media maneuver to trap the black community with their foot in their mouth. Lol.

 

[SP33Demon]

They didn't charge him for a reason. The longer this goes on the more they look like morons.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-friend-idUSBRE82O0FE20120325

versus

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-10g-capture-trayvon-killer-article-1.1050370

They have exactly zero credibility.

And...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zim...artin-incident/story?id=15999256#.T3B6yWEgefg



It was probably a media maneuver to trap the black community with their foot in their mouth. Lol.

If there is direct evidence that Zimmerman received a broken nose and was hit on the head, then he will probably win the case. However, the idiot should have just stayed in the car.

The New Black Panther Party, an African American organization taking its name from the radical group of the 1960s, has placed a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman.

That is pretty ridiculous.

Someone should make a meme out of that, epic sign after issuing a bounty on someone's head.

 

[alien42]

It was probably a media maneuver to trap the black community with their foot in their mouth. Lol.

you didn't answer the question, when is your next klan meeting?

 

[CZroe]

Did you read what I wrote? How would the person in the car be "instigating?" That's the problem with assumptions. No one considers a scenario WITHOUT their assumption. Zimmerman was attacked before he shot. The instigator is the attacker. It certainly provoked Treyvon but there was nothing wrong with Zimmerman following him. If he had some official "Neighborhood Watch" logo on his car then it would be less likely to provoke, but that's not relevant. The instigator is whoever attacked first and ALL indications are that it was Treyvon.

You are incorrect. He was following him, called the police, and continued following after the police told him to back off. There's no doubt in my mind he instigated the situation, and that's what all the evidence points to. There is just no situation where he is justified in his instigation and follow-up of murder. I don't care how black the kid is or how rude he was being. I don't care if the kid ran up to the car and started shouting racist slurs or started kicking his car. Did he get out of his car to say something? Instigating either way.

The guy is twice his size and carrying a gun, and was told to back off by the cops. Now an unarmed kid is dead because of his fuck up. Self defense? No, not even close.

You sure are sure about an awful lot of assumptions that I already told you were assumptions and you simply repeated them while doing nothing to prove them. At this point, the c

Lie/assumption #1: "You are incorrect." Because you say so? Because you WANT to remain incensed and angry? I proposed a possible scenario. If you say that the scenario was "incorrect" based on your own lies and assumptions then you, sir, are the one who is incorrect.
Lie/assumption #2: "the police told him to back off" He spoke with 911 dispatch. He NEVER spoke with police. He was never ORDERED to do or not do anything, even by 911 dispatch.
Lie/assumption #3: "There's no doubt in my mind he instigated the situation" Because you want it to be true? You actually believe that he just got out of the car, shot him, and broke his own nose and bloodied his own lip EXPECTING to get away with it with no motive other than skin color? You make me laugh.
Lie/assumption #4: "that's what all the evidence points to." No, that's what all the selective reporting and mob rule assumes. As shown above, the evidence is that he was attacked for following him and then exercised his right to self defense?
Lie/assumption #5: "There is just no situation where he is justified in his instigation and follow-up of murder." You seriously believe that there is no situation where you can defend yourself with a gun or lethal force if you aren't being attacked with the same? Ludicrous and patently false.
Lie/assumption #6: "I don't care how black the kid is or how rude he was being." Your assumption here is that these are the extent of the ways he might instigate. You fail to consider that he was an attacker, which is exactly what is being implied by "self defense" or did you COMPLETELY ignore that too?
Lie/assumption #7: "Did he get out of his car to say something? Instigating either way." Or not. He may have been FORCED out of the car while believing that he was being car-jacked. Notice that I said "may" while you use absolutes? Shameful of you.

There are more, but I'll stop there because your mob-mentality ignorance is on full display enough.