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Florida shooting - tired of hearing about it

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He had a personal right to carry a firearm and use it in self defense.
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Do you have a right to start a fight and then shoot the person you started a fight with?


Where do you get the idea that his job was to run-down some kid?
 
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I only heard about it here. Learned a long time ago TV is useless garbage from P&N thread relaying all the conflicting sensationalized, and editorializing reports I guess nothing has changed.
 
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Ichinisan said:
How do you conclude that?!

As the neighborhood watch coordinator, he had an obligation to follow suspicious people in the gated neighborhood. He also has an increased need to protect himself and this proved to be the case.

I think we all should have the right to defend ourselves in exactly the same way.
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His "obligation" was to report suspicious activity to the police which he did, maybe when the 911 dispatch told him to stop "we don't need for you to do that" he should have, his 9mm gave him a sense of empowerment and the idiot then caused this whole mess..
 
monk3y said:
What do both Zimmerman and Martin's previous record/facebook have to do with anything.

This case needs to be judged off what happened that night.
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If he had a past history of violence, then it is relevant to who likely attacked who. Then again, most people are gleefully ignorant that Treyvon attacked at all. But I agree: All this pot and jewelry theft stuff is irrelevant and if he had actually "swung" on a bus driver, there would be a record and he would be suspended for that as well.
 
This is Richard Jewell all over again. Richard Jewel was an over-zealous wanna-be cop who's vigilance actually paid off when he saved lives during the 1996 US Olympic bombing in Atlanta's Centennial Olympic Park. We all know that Eric Rudolph was the bomber, but there was a time when there was no doubt in the media and public's mind that it was Jewell just because the FBI was doing their due diligence by checking him out and not just assuming that he found the bomb as he claimed and ultimately proved. There are people to this day who think he did it just because they never heard differently (Rudolph was more notorious for abortion clinic bombings).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

BUTCH1 said:
His "obligation" was to report suspicious activity to the police which he did, maybe when the 911 dispatch told him to stop "we don't need for you to do that" he should have, his 9mm gave him a sense of empowerment and the idiot then caused this whole mess..
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Where do you draw the line of what suspicious activity to report? He wanted to continue observing and reporting so that the police had the most accurate and timely information. Your duty to observe and report does not magically vanish the moment a 911 operator picks up the phone.

You are right though: He should not have left the car. We don't know the exact circumstances of why he did, so it seems silly to focus your criticism on it. Similarly, why did the PI get out of the car in when The Dude challenged him in The Big Lebowski? The Brother Shamus wasn't instigating and he was only following to see if The Dude would lead him to Bunny, knowing that she was affiliated with someone by that name. Being a PI, I'm sure he had a gun too. Did the viewing public express criticism for the lack of realism in that scene just because it could have turned tragic but didn't?

Stay away from my F---in' lady friend.
 
Seriously? I step out of the thread in P&N for a little OT fun and I find the same damn shit going on over here? This is OT FFS...take this bickering over where it belongs
 
Joseph F said:
Why doesn't the government view them as the terrorist organization they are?
Civil rights are here, and have been here a long time. What the fuck more do they want?
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Part of their civil rights is to associate with one another and express their views... I'm not sure if the whole capture thing constitutes a threat. Regardless, I'm would assume that the local authorities are keeping a close eye on them.
 
OP's so tired of hearing about the Florida shooting...
Options:
1) Ignore threads about the Florida shooting
2) Start another thread on the Florida shooting
Must have been a tough choice.
 
Corporate Thug said:
Part of their civil rights is to associate with one another and express their views... I'm not sure if the whole capture thing constitutes a threat. Regardless, I'm would assume that the local authorities are keeping a close eye on them.
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So what do they do when they've captured him? It is a threat. At the very least, they're threatening to take away his freedom with an unlawful kidnapping.
 
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Zebo said:
I only heard about it here. Learned a long time ago TV is useless garbage from P&N thread relaying all the conflicting sensationalized, and editorializing reports I guess nothing has changed.
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It's not only garbage it's harmful for society. You have all these people feeling threatened in one way or another from an event people don't know the exact details and that isn't necessarily part of a trend.
 
It's just awful that the Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson peanut wagon had to show up and incite everyone without knowing the facts of what happened that night. If Zimmerman is not arrested and found guilty there's going to be trouble down there.
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-zimmerman-profile-20120329,0,3452783.story
"SANFORD, Fla. — For many Americans, George Zimmerman has become the face of barbarous vigilante justice.

For Olivia Bertalan, he was the face of compassion: a neighbor of consummate graciousness and low-key gallantry.

About six months before Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed black teenager in his town house complex, he was standing in Bertalan's doorway, asking what he could do to help her.

A group of young men had just broken into Bertalan's town house as she and her infant cowered in a locked bedroom. The intruders took a $600 camera and a laptop. After police had come and gone, the doorbell rang, and there was Zimmerman: 5 feet 9, in a shirt and tie, his body a little doughy, his demeanor gentle.

He introduced himself and gave her phone numbers at which she could call him anytime. He gave her a heavy-duty lock to bolster the sliding-glass door that the men had forced open. He told her she could stay with his wife down the street if she ever felt scared again.

"That first impression was really sweet," Bertalan, 21, said this week. "It really does brea...."

the more we learn the more we know the trayvon family are liars.

its sick how some sites married themselves to the original narrative and are whipping up race hate hysteria by only pushing that one totally unsupported view..gawker being one of the worst. i had low respect for them before, but now..they clearly are immoral trash. they haven't made a post on trayvon since more and more inconvenient info for their position has come out...quite amazing for a "news site" to be acting like a butt hurt troll.
 
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umbrella39 said:
Shut the fuckKOOK up already...
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get used to hearing this Doll. you know in your liberal heart of hearts selective indignation is your foundation. It's who you are. You just don't like the reflection in the mirror when somebody holds it up for you to look in.
 
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